To think Prince Harry should now do whatever it takes to cancel his book contract?

[FromageRouge]

And withdraw his book?

A rapprochement looks possible if he meets the RF halfway.

That only works if Charlotte and Louis complete their families before Charles dies. If new LPs are issued saying grandchildren don't get HRHs, it would mean only George and his children were entitled to HRHs after William is crowned.

It would create an awkward situation if Charlotte has children who are given HRHs, then Charles dies, then Louis has children who are not entitled to HRHs.

I hope Charlotte and Louis are allowed the relative privacy and normalcy that Anne's children were allowed but I doubt it. They're the children of the future King, whereas Zara and Philip were just grandchildren and never had that much media attention. Since they were born there's so much pressure on them in terms of media coverage and being used for PR and I don't see that ending any time soon.

The Queen had so many cousins and children it meant there were lots of people to share royal duties and do the bread and butter engagements. There are only 7 working royals now and most are elderly. Unless there's a major change in the fundaments of how royalty operates and they cut down on the bread and butter royal engagements completely, all three Cambridge children will be expected to do their share of work.

Meghan was silenced for years

Meghan joined the royal family in May 2018, they left in January 2020. So not even two years.

Yes, she is the least silenced royal ever.

We are now hearing that a 'friend' of the couple has spoken to The Times about PH having ER removed from his uniform and says 'He is heartbroken. To remove his grandmother’s initials feels very intentional.'

The Times aren't above making things up either, but IF that's true (and somebody didn't confuse intentional with emotional) he's even more stupid than I thought since current uniforms reflect the current monarch and that god help us happens to be Charles

Please ignore my last post - turns out this is about the ER being removed from Harry's epaulettes rather than all of them from all uniforms, and reportedly he's complaining about this too

Which begs the question of whether anyone would have noticed if nothing had been said ...

I read that "Compton" piece in the Daily Mail today for the first time (as a result of reading this thread - I hadn't known what the racist journalism was before).

The comments underneath are hugely supportive of Meghan and disgusted with the American journalist who wrote the piece and the DM for publishing it. So that's really good to see.

That's really interesting isn't it. An American journalist!

Which begs the question of whether anyone would have noticed if nothing had been said ...

Exactly.
I have a sliver of sympathy for him but no one would have been any the wiser had he not said anything via his ‘friend’ to The Times.

He wanted to wear the uniform and that was approved but that’s not enough, now there is something wrong with the uniform. He really doesn’t help himself at all. This week is not about him and his grievances.

At this point, I think the Sussexes would complain if they were offered semi-skimmed milk rather than skimmed for their cereal. 😂

Meghan was also on maternity leave during that time. I have no idea when she stopped doing any royal engagements when pregnant (Archie was born May 19) but if IIRC she was still on ML in Jan 20. So technically spent less than a year as a senior working royal.

I haven't read that piece, but it is typical of newspapers to spin an original truth so is it that:

It emotionally hit Harry that the initials ER are removed from his uniform and it's a reminder that his Grandma is dead and things have changed, invoking painful nostalgia

Or:
I'm feeling hard done by because someone removed the ER from my epaulettes on purpose to upset and denigrate me and remind me of my inferior position.

Or:
Both?

I hope they haven’t decided to do their own PR work😮!!

Or:

Someone removed the ER without so much as informing me that they were doing it

This with bells on.

The irony of it all is that Harry genuinely believes Meghan wanted to kill herself. Meghan likes Meghan a little bit too much for that to ever happen.

Or, he knew the ER would not be there as he's neither a working royal or a serving officer. But where is the sob story in that. I'm losing a bit of sympathy for him as he really does like a moan. If all he has to worry about is a shoulder patch he really isn't doing too bad in life.

Or

Maybe just be an adult and get on with it, it was only for 20mins!!

Although he may not have even minded. We only have one of those pesky friends for information. Maybe their friends should all just keep things to themselves.

They should have held on for an apt to speak with the queen. Apparently they couldn't get one quickly enough so announced what THEY had decided.
If their decision making process had been slowed right down, then covid would have prevented boring royal duties for a year anyway.

Surely the most problematic issue here is...

...why would the RF risk spending any time in the company of H & M when they know it's highly likely that a) they'll be super-sensitively looking for reasons to take offence, to confirm their own narrative and b) any perceived slights/gaffes will be carefully stored up and turned into a massive drama in either print or on international TV??

Whatever your view of the situation, if I was King C III or any other royal, I'd be damn wary of spending any time in their company - you certainly couldn't relax or let your guard down. So it's a vicious circle where they claim they want to be part of the family, but snitch on private conversations then claim they've been shunned. So the family don't want any contact with them.

No wonder Kate and M travelled in separate cars to the Queen's lying-in-state! I bet Sophie was briefed to just talk about the weather with Meghan and not be drawn into any other topics.

They are both drama queens, though, and love being victims. Whatever the rights and wrongs, their personalities are their worst enemies, I think. They need to act with dignity (despite problems - never wash family linen in public!) and not seek attention. But the boat has sailed on that.

I mean as a Republican I have zero time for the monarchy. I’m mildly infuriated with this ridiculous kerfuffle over the queen’s death. I’m pissed off tomorrow is a bank holiday and everything will be shut. I will be furious to see Charles self-indulgent little face on bank notes. But I can understand why someone would be upset to be stripped of his grandmother’s initials at her funeral. It just seems so mean-spirited.

They will never leave public life as she is an attention seeker. Stay tuned for more lies every time they start to fade into the background

People like you complain will they're attention seeking, then whinge that they keep they're children away. When they're off the radar, its 'this was their plan all along, to snub the queen'. You don't even want them to fade away because you love the frothing and gossiping.

You want them to be in the public eye, otherwise people who hate them wouldn't watch every interview, know about every book and tv appearance, know all the rumours, all the times Meghan lied etc.

Iris, there's a thread about this, and someone has explained why

Absolutely agree with this. It's very odd that the people who claim not to be interested in anything H&M do seem to be the very people who "know" everything the pair of them have said and done. Funny that.

I couldn't care less if they are in public eye or not. That's their choice and right. But stop moaning !!! They live a charmed, v wealthy life, and the time M was in the RF was v limited in her 40 years. Go do something positive and stop talking about others who aren't there to rebut.
I bet the whole RF is terrified that anything they say will be used in Oprah part 2.

I read on another thread Oprah is backing away from a second interview. No idea if this is true.