To think Prince Harry should now do whatever it takes to cancel his book contract?

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And withdraw his book?

A rapprochement looks possible if he meets the RF halfway.

To me dividing between racism you will accept and racism you what the poc has to say about it is highly problematic ... Should say: between racism you will accept and racism you won’t despite what the poc has to say about it

Out of interest - and it's meant as a genuine question - what happens when one POC insists that's something's racist and another maintains they're mistaken, as we've seen on several of these threads?
Obviously people's experiences influence their views and those experiences differ, but whose word should we take for it - one, both or neither?

Most of the offensive stuff I see on Twitter and various forums is from those calling everyone else a racist

Good grief, no. What about the Woottons, Morgans and Levin's of this world with their 'articles' their daily vile tweets, then all who follow them getting more and more nasty

I don't think Harry and Meghan can opt out.
First they need to make money. The only skills are Meghan is an actress, hardly a low profile job, and Harry is a Prince. Using either pushes them into the spotlight.
Secondly lots of the public are insanely interested in them. Even when they were very low profile for some months the press were still full of stories of them. Nobody seemed to know what they were doing, but that did not stop the stories.

The holding hands things grates because they do it all the bloody time.
It comes across as either needy or performative.

Have you ever had friends like this who just won't put each other down, and engage in constant displays of coupleness.

You feel like: I've got nothing against hand holding or kissing, but Give It a Rest.
Who is this for? If you don't touch every 5 seconds will you forget you love each other or we won't think you're not madly in love.

Unless you're in the first 6 months of a relationship, constant needing to touch in public starts to feel strange.

The venom aimed at M was everywhere long before the OW interview, I don't know why posters are pretending otherwise. Piers Morgan was sacked just after that interview, yet had been vicious towards her for ages beforehand. Just stop pretending.

This a million times.
Go and search MN. Put in the name
Meghan and put in a time parameter.

There were countless threads around their engagement. It's an eye opener.
"I'm fucking sick of Meghan and Harry'" on the day of their engagement is a corker for all the wrong reasons

I'm sick of hearing..."but I loved Meghan till the Oprah interview"
That is spouted like it applies to everyone who doesn't like her now. Yes, for some maybe.
Bit for a lot of posters, her card was marked early on

You are stating that people don't think somebody who has non- white genes should marry a prince. But who really thinks and feels in that prejudicial way? To think this way would be absurd.

Oh come on. Clearly lots of people do think this. Interracial marriage was illegal in the USA until 1967. The UK has never had miscegenation laws but they are common elsewhere. A few months ago there was a big news story about a British podcast that stated "Prince Harry should be judicially killed for treason” for marrying a black woman, and stating that Archie is “an abomination that should be put down."

When Harry and Meghan first started dating there were lots of posts with comments about how Harry should marry "an English rose type" or "someone more like him."

*Most of the offensive stuff I see on Twitter and various forums is from those calling everyone else a racist."

Racists always think that being called a racist is worse than actually being a racist.

Unless you're in the first 6 months of a relationship, constant needing to touch in public starts to feel strange.

Maybe they seek comfort from each other because they are constantly attacked? It can't be easy walking into potentially hostile environments not knowing what to expect. Plus they have had threats from white supremacy groups - of course they're going to stay close!

They look like they completely adore each other to me - I don't know how they haven't crumbled under such scrutiny and criticism. Some people won't stop till something horrific happens - then they'll be a mass deletion of all the abuse shot at them.

Meghan was criticised for touching her own fucking belly ffs! 🙄

I think it will be an interesting read. Its not going to be a shock to anyone that the royal family has over privileged, out of touch, racists amoungst it. Or contains the kind of entitlement Andrew has demonstrated. Its the end of an era for the monarchy, its a shame its Charles not William, a fresh young reboot of the monarch would have been nice.

WRT the handholding, I'm one of those weird people watching the livestream of people filing past the Queen's coffin. Not a single person is holding hands or indeed touching each other. They've clearly been told not to do it. With the exception of Michael Heseltine and his wife.

He left the RF for his own very good reasons. He was protecting his wife from abuse

I do not understand how anyone could be so confused as to write this, it’s such public knowledge, he never left the royal family, he never even intended to stop working as a royal, he wrote a press release and stated he was going to make money and also collaborate with the queen, be a new hybrid royal doing both.

they told him to jog on as he can’t capitalise being royal. That’s why he’s where he is, he never left due t9 abuse for gods sake, he left becayse they thought they could make loads of dosh in the states,

@derxa people are filing past the coffin in single file.

There are a lot of posters I think who can't wait for this book to come out because they are hoping it's going to bring about the downfall of the monarchy but they dress it up as faux concern for Prince Harry, when in reality they couldn't give two hoots about a Prince that comes from the very family they so dislike. He is their useful idiot.

No one thinks some whiny book is going to bring down the monarchy.

You've got it backwards. It's the posters pearl clutching about how terrible the book is who are salivating about how much gossip and muck-racking it will have under the guise of pretending to care about the royal family.

They couldn't give two hoots for the RF (if they did they wouldn't be exploiting the Queen's death and being so disrespectful to the Queen's death), it's all faux concern for the monarchy when their real interest is enjoying a good old hate fest and putting their feet up for another episode of their favourite soap opera The Royals.

I can't understand why they are criticised (and singled out) for holding hands...?

The way some people are reporting it (so inappropriate, they're not teenagers etc) is as if they were kissing, or caressing each other rather than simply holding hands (which is quite a normal thing to do with one's spouse) and others at the service were also doing without illiciting any negative comments

No they certainly are not

Wisteria

So nothing to do with the venomous press. OK got you 🙄

This. When they were walking with William and Kate the other day Meghan looked absolutely petrified, like she was too nervous to even wave. Plus the fact that they were being told on Twitter to go back where they came from. I’d be holding my husband’s hand too!

And yet Prince Andrew stroking his DDs arse was barely mentioned, and those that did mention it were screamed at for criticising him 'comforting his DD' 🤪

Exactly. The sheer fury and hysteria of the many many posters defending Andrew was quite something to witness.

Imagine getting that worked up over defending Prince Andrew!

The mind boggles.

Because - Meghan.

If it weee Kate and William posters would be drooling all over it.

*Exactly. The sheer fury and hysteria of the many many posters defending Andrew was quite something to witness.

Imagine getting that worked up over defending Prince Andrew!*

Yep! I can only hope MN had been trolled by royal bots over the last week otherwise something has gone seriously wrong since the 'we believe you' campaign.

I wonder if they could buy him off

I think if Pa agreed to pick up the tab for security forever and provide the cool outriders and unimpeded journeys in flash cars down the M4 from Heathrow, as well as using his influence to ensure that H&M receive similar treatment in other countries they visit - IPP? - I think the book and many of other issues would miraculously dissipate. Oh and a special allowance would need to be made so that M doesn't have to curtesy to Kate

I doubt anyone was 'defending PA' rather pointing out comments like this are really inappropriate and offensive.

I found this video upsetting to watch. And yet, people will still talk badly of them as if they know better. It's disgusting. People's comments and hounding are exactly why they feel like they do and why they need to get their story across because they have been vilified due to not putting up and shutting up. I also read an article about how Charles was bullied throughout school but he was basically told to get on with it. Very sad.

Hmm, just seen on Twitter that they've apparently parted ways with Sunshine Sachs. Interesting if true.