To ask you to read this cautionary tale of what we're sleepwalking into?

[AspireMe]

unherd.com/2020/10/how-corporations-can-delete-your-existence/

Some people might say she deserved it. Others might disagree.

Some people on here think TWANW. Some corporations might in turn deem that thought as heresy.

Encouraged more and more each day to go digital, paperless and cashless... what are we walking into here?

@broodybadger

Wow. Just...wow.

Let's hope they don't ever deem something you support as worthy to do the same to you.

You don't seem to understand banking terms and conditions very well

They don't have to keep you as a customer

As long as they're following their own rules and policies why are you so caught up about it

This is why I bank with 3 different institutions

As long as they're following their own rules and policies why are you so caught up about it

Er...because I'm a citizen of this country who is horrifically concerned with the growing authority and power these giant tech companies actually hold over us in a rapidly-increasing technological world, perhaps?

You know, the same as what I've been saying throughout the entire thread.

They don't get it OP.

Should banks comply with the law of the land when they hold accounts which may be linked to terrorism? No.

Wow. There is nothing left to say - you support terrorists, whoever they claim to be, holding funds in UK banks, and believe that banks should act illegally in holding those funds. Disgusting.

@AspireMe

You're just another conspiracy loon

Nothing more, nothing less

They really don't!

Luckily you, and a handful of others on here can see what's happening. Not sure what we can do about it though (I reply, typing on my computer, connected to the Internet...)

Ultimately it is not the bank's decision. They are using sanctions lists published by government and are legally obliged to comply. They are taking the action, but not ultimately making the decision.

If Women's Rights groups were declared as terrorist groups - you would support banks, and believe that banks should freeze accounts of all supporters of Women's Right's groups and act upon government orders who declared those groups as such? Disgusting.

I have no idea why people seem to trust their governments so much. They are all SO shady.

Personallt, I believe if women's rights groups were declared terrorist organisations ans treated the sake as the Far Right or Al-Qaeda type illegal groups, millions of us would be out on the streets protesting it. If and when that happens, I will see you there. But I don't believe it will.

I believe I read a story that the Canadian government froze the funds of the anti-vax truckers to force them to stop protesting. How can that be right?

@Natty13 taking to the streets to protest would be more likely to get you arrested, sanctioned by your bank and, depending on circumstances, denied citizenship.

Your right to peaceful protest is being removed bit by bit, by this government.

There are lots of nervous posts from the GC crowd lately...

1. This isn't Canada.
2. If enough anti vaxxers were against that then they could have taken action

I don't see how that is relevant when my response was to someone comparing women's rights groups to terrorist organisations. Yes, in theory Big Tech could make us reliant on them and then decide to wipe out our virtual existence. But the examples given all show we are way, way, way off that happening. People talk avout this being a "precedent" when it isn't. Islamic terrorists have had similar happen to them for literally decades now and nobody batted an eyelid at the thought of it. Now it's happening to white and/or British and/or right wing terrorists people start panicking we will have our rights to free speech taken away before we know it. I dont believe I will be affected by this because, while I have extreme political views, I don't advocate murder or any other crime to make my points.

Protesting like with the vigil of Sarah Everard? Protesting like at Gay Pride?

Why do you think millions would be protesting? People on the thread have said - repeatedly - they think these actions by the bank are fine...

Again, why don't you believe it will? I didn't believe that men could be called women and women, men, and those who don't go along with it are deemed as part of the "far right" yet here we are... where are you?

^^ "Protesting like with the vigil of Sarah Everard? Protesting like at Gay Pride?" the follow on sentence from that was supposed to be: And what happened with those?

@AspireMe

You're just continuing to make yourself seem whacky instead of making a good point

It's a trap many conspiracy theorists fall into

You lose any reasonable points in your jumbled mess of crap

You lose any reasonable points in your jumbled mess of crap.

Charming. Enjoy your sand.

My point was that the antivaxxers were going against what the government wanted. They werent acting as terrorists, just making a real nuisance of themselves. As a result, the government of a western democracy used its influence to ensure gofundme froze the truckers funds. This is a huge overstep. You do not have to be a terrorist to be a threat to government. That was my point.

Shall we set up a game of Paranoid GC Feminist bingo?

Silenced.
Orwellian.

.. anybody want to add more? 😅

My husband works in financial crime
for a bank. He makes these decisions all the time. They are obliged to under the terms of their banking license. If they can articulate a suspicion of financial crime (they don’t require proof), then they have to ban the account and raise a CIFAS.
They know that it means some people will get banned that shouldn’t but it’s necessary.

Common sense says to have have
multiple current accounts with different banks and spread savings out. Most useful when banks go down but also useful for being victim of or suspected of financial crime.

I have no sympathy or fear.

Ctrl + F is available to anybody with a keyboard, you know.

The only person on this thread who has said the words "silenced" or "Orwellian" is... you.

You gave the example of women's rights groups. I think that if the government were able to declare women's rights groups terrorists and the banks etc had to take action to millions of women
based on that, millions of women would take to the streets. Sarah Everard vigil is not comparable.

Gay Pride and Stonewall protests prove the point i am trying to make - rights being taken away, enough people protest it and have their rights protected. See also: suffragettes. If banks suddenly had the right to take away women's access to their own money for being feminists, I fully believe we would all be out raising hell. That's how we got the vote, the right to own property, the right not to be raped by our husbands. That's how gay sex, equal marriage, etc was all legalised. If something unjust affects enough people there WILL be action. I dont think comparing having access to bank accounts being suddenly removed without warning is comparable to protests about a young woman murdered. They are 2 totally different scenarios.

Gay Pride and Stonewall protests prove the point i am trying to make - rights being taken away, enough people protest it and have their rights protected

I'm not sure if you've caught up with recent events, unless you think it's protecting lesbian women to be removed from gay pride by the police for protecting their legalised sex-based rights?

There was a protesters march against the Brexit decision a few years ago, wasn't there? A million protesters out of the 16,000 that voted to remain in the EU marched demanding a second referendum. Whatever happened ended up happening with that? It seemed to fizzle out when people lost interest. Maybe the other million march protests are coming soon though.. Or maybe we just find what's on our phone screens more interesting. Our technology.