Period of mourning has sent some people batshit?

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I've noticed a ramping up of crazy on here over the last few days with some odd threads. Also more fratchy interactions on more balanced ones. AIBU that the queen's death has destabilised things a bit?

And the royalists are just as weirdly offended that not everyone agrees with them when it comes to the monarchy. Repeatedly, royalists are telling non-royalist to leave the country, to leave their democracy, if they don’t like it, to sling their hook and just leave. A British citizen telling another British citizen to leave their own country because they dared to attempt of any kind of mature, intelligent and potentially progressive debate regarding this country and the monarchy. Instead they get called unhinged because they dare to attempt to open up objective discourse. Now that’s rude and blinkered.

I think the Princess of Wales must be the most wonderful incumbent of that position EVER! What a fantastic woman she is. She does her duty and seems to focus on only that - and it is paying off. She has avoided scandal and has played safe and cautious. The power of cautious is burning bright, now!

We have some self-effacing other royals too, like Sophie. They have learnt to do it and it works wonderfully. When I see Kate, I think of lines and lines of volunteers, coming up to be thanked for their work, at innumerable garden parties. The people are taking the limelight. That is why they queue up for the procession. They are made to feel like key players, and that alchemy between monarchy and people gets to work to create understanding.

Kate has a modest persona, we barely know her. She lets her actions speak for her. The word that she is least likely to say is: 'me'. She is all about others.

Catherine is a kind of humble icon, not like Marilyn Monroe who had chutzpah and massive presence. With Kate it's a soft power. And those dear little children.

I've seen more of the opposite.

Yes. Brilliant post.

I was thinking earlier that it feels almost cult-like! I think the issue is it’s taking over the media and it doesn’t feel like things will begin to go back to normal until after the funeral.

Don’t get me wrong either, I was very upset when I first heard but this is all getting a bit much now.

I also get the feeling that Charles' reign may not go well for him. I could be wrong, but he does not seem to have the common touch, and while he does not have that, neither does he have a regal presence and a pleasant enough demeanour like the late Queen did.

The gloves might come off along with the wheels on the Royal Coach. It may become much easier to publicly criticise the monarchy going forward, since I reckon most people whatever their views largely kept their own counsel out of respect for the Queen. I can't see the same respect and deference being awarded to Charles once the funeral is over. I can't put my finger on it, just something makes me think that.

Thats actually a good example of the kind of batshittery I imagine the OP means. We don’t know anything about the new Princess of Wales because her job involves shaking hands, looking nice in coat dresses, and never saying anything apart from deliverIng safely uncontroversial speeches someone else wrote for her for safely uncontroversial charities. Her ‘duty’ is to be a nicely-turned-out nonentity.

So have I . I feel pity for anybody, who hasn't got the class to keep it zipped, during the period of mourning. It's like a competition as to who can be the biggest, entitled dick.

Absolutely.

If people want to mourn, fine. But I don't. Nor do quite a lot of people in my social circle. What they want is to have their medical consultations/relative's funerals/holiday.

It is utterly ridiculous, and if you dare suggest that things are OTT you just get lambasted and told you're being disrespectful.

To me, disrespectful is:
Ignoring other global news (particularly nearby things e.g. Ukraine situation)
Buying food and flowers and piling them up for someone dead whilst others struggle to be able to afford to feed themselves.
Closing foodbanks when ^^
Not acknowledging the many who died on 9/11 because the death of one person somehow is more important
Not acknowledging how many people died during Covid and were unable to be mourned.

But apparently these views are all 'woke' and 'lefty liberal snowflake' type opinions and 'now is not the time' to bring them up.

Really showing your true colours here, Culldesack.

But apparently these views are all 'woke' and 'lefty liberal snowflake' type opinions and 'now is not the time' to bring them up

You're being asked to wait until the funeral is over. Every other year for the foreseeable future you have 365 days to raise these and any other questions you want. Sorry that waiting a few days is such a burden for you, bursting as you must be to get all these matters done and dusted.

I've followed most of it and I've been really moved. I'm not asking or expecting anyone else to feel the same. But how has my interest affected you? You don't have to watch it on telly or read about it. The shops haven't closed. You get a bank holiday that you can use in any way you like. How are you being put out in your life by people feeling sad and queuing?

Mercury retrograde …

I agree .

There have been a lot of polarising events recently - lockdown followed by stopping restrictions: Brexit, even with cost of living/fuel crisis and people feeling unable to say they have spent money on something nice for themselves . There are even people sniping at each other on the S&B threads .

Some of us have have buried more than 1 close family member this year. People who were actually important in our day to day lives and that we loved. Some of us will have lost a family member in the last few weeks. Some of us will be exhausted from supporting and caring for elderly parents in poor health and struggling to adjust to life without their spouses of over 60 years. So it's hardly surprising that some of are really totally uninterested in the funeral of someone we have never met.

@Culldesack that's really unfair. Plenty of people have to go NC with a parent. And it's really sad for them. And not that sad for the parent who failed to treat their child well enough to be a part of their life.

I heard the Queen lived by "don't complain, don't explain". There are a few here who would do well to observe that. Everyone is entitled to their views and we should be respectful even if we don't share them.

In all honesty it's just who they are.

If you think about the people you know personally that are being a bit bonkers right now (whether royalists or republican) are you suprised about their bonkers behaviour?

I'm not, anyone I know spitting vermon has done it in the past, anyone who currently all tears.poem and pictures of the queen are no suprise either. Everyone else in the middle, they're just a bit bored of it all now but more it eye roll then get on with life way.

You have no right to tell people what they can and can't discuss on a PUBLIC forum. If it was that "disrespectful" to have republican discussions right now MNHQ would delete the threads. If these threads are personally offending you, which they appear to be, then click off. Nobody is forcing you to read it.

Oh gosh .... having read a few more posts. this thread is an example of the crazy and the sniping in itself

SnoozyLucy7 excellent post, thank you.

The threads aren't offending me, anything's up for discussion. The people who choose to be offensive arseholes, on either side, most definitely are.

And I'm old enough to make decisions for myself about what I follow. But thanks for the advice.

Everyone I know seems normal in real life but some people have gone a bit crazy online. On Facebook and here it’s where I’ve mainly seen it. People bullying people who don’t want to watch the funeral or dare to have a moan about things being cancelled or closed. “Have some respect!” they moan. Have seen that word about 800 times this week.

Fucking hell....go make a brew in your commemorative People's Princess mug and chill out. You don't know these people, they'd not pee on you if you were on fire, you do get that don't you??