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To be saddened by the behaviour of the public

232 replies

diligesmore · 11/09/2022 16:36

In regards to the Queen’s coffin in Edinburgh. As it makes its way through the city the public have their phones out so blatantly and some with smiles on their faces.

Similarly, people shoved their phones in Charles’ face when he greeted the crowd outside Buckingham Palace.

Haven’t we lost our way a bit? Do they really need a photo or video when they should just be kind, present and respectful?

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Cara87 · 11/09/2022 21:01

Also the bbc people were at work. That is bizarre and unprofessional and absolutely not the same as talking photos of public events etc

NightfeedsandNetflix · 11/09/2022 21:06

happyinherts · 11/09/2022 16:41

Noted a real decline in manners / etiquette since lockdown. A sense of entitlement, their thoughts, actions are what matters.

Yesterday I was run over by a mobility scooter in Lidl. The driver was driving far too quickly inside a crowded shop. It was a Saturday afternoon, in a busy town, with families. She came round a corner aisle, tripped me up and then started yelling that I'd cut her up. Huh? She's the one driving. I was attempting to get to a shelf.

Local tragedy occurred a month ago, people videoing on mobile phones and posting on Facebook. No idea that it's disrespectful and offensive. It's like people need educating on what is appropriate these days.

A family friend of ours lost their daughter in a sink hole with debris collapsing on top. The father scrambled to save her meanwhile the locals filmed it.

All this recording and pictures... I'm not even convinced people look through them all much after. Not like you would a physical photo album.

TheWheeledAvenger · 11/09/2022 21:08

Blossomtoes · 11/09/2022 20:05

It's not so long ago that crowds would gather to watch/cheer public executions

It’s 154 years since the last one.

In England. France and the USA both had public executions up to the 1930s.

Redglitter · 11/09/2022 21:10

I agreed with the OP initially but ive seen so many videos online tonight that would never have been recorded by the BBC

The cars stopped on the motorway & people out their cars as the cortege passes on the opposite carriageway, The tractors & horses lining through fields near Ballater etc. The bagpipers along the route, that kind of thing

All just normal people paying tribute & moments that mainstream media would never see

Dunnoburt · 11/09/2022 21:13

I'm the biggest hypocrit...because although I thought the exact same thing......I would also have done it........

Dunnoburt · 11/09/2022 21:15

Although I may like to add that I do not use social media....

Drivebye · 11/09/2022 21:20

Yes there has been a decline in manners. Did you see the accession yesterday, the way Charles went from zero to highly annoyed because something wasn't moved fast enough. Twice.

It's everywhere.

Snowiscold · 11/09/2022 21:23

Yes, he was tetchy, wasn’t he? But maybe excusable under the circumstances. They should have had a bigger table.

Imissmoominmama · 11/09/2022 21:24

ilovesooty · 11/09/2022 17:10

There have always been people like that. My mother worked with someone who was a friend of the family of one of Sutcliffe 's victims. She took photos at the funeral, had them developed and brought them in to show round at work.

Fucking hell.

Blossomtoes · 11/09/2022 21:24

Snowiscold · 11/09/2022 21:23

Yes, he was tetchy, wasn’t he? But maybe excusable under the circumstances. They should have had a bigger table.

Of course the table should have been bigger. Poor bugger, his mother’s not even cold before they start sticking the knife in.

Imissmoominmama · 11/09/2022 21:25

@NightfeedsandNetflix - I have no words.

EllieRosesMammy · 11/09/2022 21:26

The general public are grim. I've witnessed people with their phones out recording when someone is laid on the floor waiting for an ambulance, or when there's a car crash. I wouldn't dream of doing it, so cringe.

Drivebye · 11/09/2022 21:30

No, not 'sticking the knife in' just pointing out that the decline in behaviour spans all socio economic groups. Although I would expect someone who has been brought up and trained in such situations for years to be able to not get so angry about such a small thing. Very different to the Queen but then we're all different and things change.

containsnuts · 11/09/2022 21:30

SproutsAtChristmas · 11/09/2022 19:46

All over my social media are pictures of people outside Buckingham Palace or Windsor Castle. In the pictures they are all smiling together! It's appalling and shocking. You wouldn't visit the home of a relative that died and take pictures smiling outside. Why is it acceptable when it's the Queen that has died?

Some are even posting that they were "lucky enough" to see William, Kate etc. There is nothing lucky about the situation. A family have lost a dear relative and they have to go out and visit these crowds rather than grieve privately but you were lucky to see them?

Social media truly brings out the worst in people.

It's not just the british. I saw a social media post from a holiday maker that said along the lines of "what an exciting week - so lucky being in the right place at the right time". What a thing to say! 🙁

Somethingneedstochange · 11/09/2022 21:30

It was being filmed by tv crew though but the tv crew also filmed crowds of people with they're phones out. 😡😡😡Why not just share the news report video?

Someone on my Facebook had his mums funeral today. He wasn't one of the pole bearers but did film it though. I could understand why when we could only have a limited number of people there. But wouldn't be sharing on social media. Just to share privately with family and friends who couldn't be there.

Blossomtoes · 11/09/2022 21:31

Very different to the Queen

Did you see the Queen in a similar situation less than two days after her mum died? I didn’t.

Cara87 · 11/09/2022 21:35

My god the royals aren’t robots. Forgive him a little bit of stress reaction under pressure.

Somethingneedstochange · 11/09/2022 21:37

My daughter has siezures not had anyone filming her fortunately. But have had people stepping over her or asking if she can move out the way. Well no she can't she's not just lieing on the floor or pavement because she feels like it.

CaptainBarbosa · 11/09/2022 21:43

Living life through a six inch screen is something I'll never understand, and I say this as a millennial 😳

Just enjoy the moment, be present. Not everything needs to go on your Facebook page 🙄 by all means take one quick picture, but filming non stop, giant sticks with cameras on the end. If you want footage that badly record the Mrs, the BBC have better angles 😂

I will say for those smiling when meeting Charles it's a weird time. On one hand you are sympathetic that The Queen has passed away, but also people want to congratulate him and wish him well at becoming HM The King. It's a weird and conflicting time of emotions for the public.

One minute your bowing and leaving flowers, and the very next you are shouting "long live The King, hip hip hooray" a strange juxtaposition.

LINABE · 11/09/2022 21:44

UWhatNow · 11/09/2022 20:48

I agree op. The social media generation have lost sight of what normal respectful behaviour is now. Real life, without a photo pouting in front of it or bragging about it, is irrelevant to them. Empathy or decorum is not even a consideration - just me, me, me.

It's awful. I hate it. I feel as though I'm in a different world.

CaptainBarbosa · 11/09/2022 21:44

CaptainBarbosa · 11/09/2022 21:43

Living life through a six inch screen is something I'll never understand, and I say this as a millennial 😳

Just enjoy the moment, be present. Not everything needs to go on your Facebook page 🙄 by all means take one quick picture, but filming non stop, giant sticks with cameras on the end. If you want footage that badly record the Mrs, the BBC have better angles 😂

I will say for those smiling when meeting Charles it's a weird time. On one hand you are sympathetic that The Queen has passed away, but also people want to congratulate him and wish him well at becoming HM The King. It's a weird and conflicting time of emotions for the public.

One minute your bowing and leaving flowers, and the very next you are shouting "long live The King, hip hip hooray" a strange juxtaposition.

Record the TV not the Mrs...Jesus where did that autocorrect come from 😂 don't record your Mrs 😳

1dayatatime · 11/09/2022 21:47

@diligesmore

"I’m 25, and I do feel that my generation in particular just exist on social media. "

+++

This culture is reinforced by "social media influencers" where a person's worth, value or popularity is measured by by their social media postings and followers / likes.

This is made worse by photo shopped pictures that put realistic body image pressure on young girls and lifestyle pictures of exotic holidays / cars / Christmas presents etc that just make other people feel crap about their own lives and lifestyle. This then leads to insecurity/ unhappiness and the urge to "beat them at their own game" by posting their own social media highlights etc and so the spiral continues downwards.

"Comparison is the thief of joy" Theodore Roosevelt

tothesea · 11/09/2022 21:48

I’m in Edinburgh and would have quite liked to go and pay my respects but all the phone ghouls would annoy me too much.

Mythreefavouritethings · 11/09/2022 22:03

CaramelTwirl · 11/09/2022 16:50

Meh, it's history in the making. I'm sure you would have taken a photo too.

Um, pretty sure the legions of TV crews might have had it covered? OP, I completely agree, it was like watching a load of zombies. Some were being filmed speaking with and consoling the monarch while holding a phone between them! Who is going to sit and replay this, and in what situation might you think, ‘Oh, not much on telly tonight, shall we stick on the hearse footage again?’

VestaTilley · 11/09/2022 22:07

Agree. It looks bloody awful - that sea of phones. What happened to bowing your head respectfully as a cortège goes past?

And you don’t have to be a monarchist to think shoving phones in the bereaved new King’s face isn’t ok.

One of the bigger problems of a society which has become so informal, with few people attending church or serving in the military etc, is a decline in people knowing how to behave differently in serious situations. You don’t chat amongst yourselves, you don’t “have a laugh”, you don’t take photos or selfies, and you certainly don’t shove a phone in to the face of a man who has just lost his mother. What happened to knowing how to stand still?