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To be saddened by the behaviour of the public

232 replies

diligesmore · 11/09/2022 16:36

In regards to the Queen’s coffin in Edinburgh. As it makes its way through the city the public have their phones out so blatantly and some with smiles on their faces.

Similarly, people shoved their phones in Charles’ face when he greeted the crowd outside Buckingham Palace.

Haven’t we lost our way a bit? Do they really need a photo or video when they should just be kind, present and respectful?

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PuzzyGalore · 11/09/2022 18:12

happyinherts · 11/09/2022 16:41

Noted a real decline in manners / etiquette since lockdown. A sense of entitlement, their thoughts, actions are what matters.

Yesterday I was run over by a mobility scooter in Lidl. The driver was driving far too quickly inside a crowded shop. It was a Saturday afternoon, in a busy town, with families. She came round a corner aisle, tripped me up and then started yelling that I'd cut her up. Huh? She's the one driving. I was attempting to get to a shelf.

Local tragedy occurred a month ago, people videoing on mobile phones and posting on Facebook. No idea that it's disrespectful and offensive. It's like people need educating on what is appropriate these days.

I hope you are alright now and weren't injured.

My Godmother had the same, knocked down and her ankle broken in three places. Person on the scooter had apparently done it before to someone else. Was anything done and the scooter removed from the person. Like fuck it was.

giveovernate · 11/09/2022 18:14

jetadore · 11/09/2022 18:02

Why are they parading her coffin around then if they don’t want people to look at it?

Fair question !

DdraigGoch · 11/09/2022 18:15

diligesmore · 11/09/2022 17:16

I was dreading someone would ask for a selfie with Charles! I remember when my Nan died ten years ago. Some on the street silently bowed their heads as her coffin passed. They were patient and kind. I would have been devastated if some thought we were inconveniencing them.

I was cycling home from work one day and the traffic stopped for a funeral cortage to pull out of a junction. I could have carried on along the (shared use) pavement but that would have been disrespectful so I stopped and removed my helmet.

I did notice when watching Margaret Thatcher's funeral on the TV how applause has taken the place of dignified silence. The same at football matches, a two minute silence is supposed to give you time to reflect, applause doesn't offer that. I know that no one wears hats any more so can't remove them, but can't they at least stand silently and bow their heads?

MzHz · 11/09/2022 18:17

My god you’re an idiot.

DdraigGoch · 11/09/2022 18:17

Underanothersky · 11/09/2022 17:16

I mean, people used to see executions as a great day out. Do you think they would not have filmed them if they'd had cameras/phones?

That would have been for a convicted criminal though, rightly or wrongly a hanging was public entertainment. This on the other hand is a funeral procession. Pretty sure that they have always been solemn affairs.

sparklecement · 11/09/2022 18:18

I took a video. From the flyover on the motorway. I took it because my 90 year old nan who is in a care home wanted to see the Queen come by our town. I also have family abroad wanting the same. I’m not apologetic, or am I vulgar thanks very much.

Applecustard35 · 11/09/2022 18:18

I think it’s in bad taste. On Thursday night when the news were broadcasting at Buckingham Palace, there was a couple taking photos, laughing and waving at the camera, absolutely disgusting behaviour.

BitossiBlues · 11/09/2022 18:20

bellac11 · 11/09/2022 17:58

Is this the duck lipped pouty thing?

I think some young women dont know any other pose/look.

Its beyond them to simply look normal

Not just the face. The body positions were all sexy/sassy, hands on hips, bum thrust out type poses. Model poses basically. I just find it really disturbing how young women have had their minds bent by social media and think this is normal behaviour outside the place of such a tragic and horrific episode in history. They are not, by taking these pictures, remembering the person - Anne Frank - they are remembering themselves; and they could have been anywhere, all their pictures will be the same, with their inane behaviour front and centre.

Anywhereelse · 11/09/2022 18:23

Well, just wait until she lies in state at Westminster Hall and the predicted hundreds of thousands will file past her - undoubtedly there will be those who sneakily get their phones out and take photos and/or selfies of the coffin. Yes, some of the public will sink that low unfortunately.

SpiderinaWingMirror · 11/09/2022 18:23

Yanbu.
I went to our local proclamation today. Some muppet held an ipad up right across my view. Why not just experience it.

mydogisthebest · 11/09/2022 18:24

People, on the whole, are rude and ignorant. Nothing to do with covid they were the same before.

I think in a lot of ways the mobile phone is one of the worst inventions ever. People can't even walk along a street without being glued to their phone. I am sick of dodging out of people's way because they are so pathetic.

Go to a concert and so many people taking photos, holding their phones up blocking others' view. People in restaurants glued to their phones, some even looking at their phone while they eat even though they are with other people.

Don't even get me started on selfies. The other day there was 2 women (I think mother and daughter) walking backwards to take a selfie! Bloody stupid, pathetic and vain.

Even my neighbour who is almost 50 has about a million selfies on her facebook page

Solasum · 11/09/2022 18:25

I was at a Proclamation at a Cathedral earlier today, and the Bishop took out his phone to take a picture of the congregation.

Saynotothefishtank · 11/09/2022 18:25

Yanbu. At my sister’s wedding she specifically asked for no photos as she walked down the aisle as she wanted to be able to look people in the eye and share the moment.

Pretty much everyone there ignored this request and had their phone held up and their eyes fixed on its screen. It ruined that moment for the bride.

I think its pathetic. So anxious to have a photo to put on social media that everyone is a paparazzo, which is basically the lowest form of life.

Thomasina79 · 11/09/2022 18:27

To me the very word ‘selfie’ sums it all up.

stemthetide · 11/09/2022 18:27

I was among the crowd on the route this afternoon.

Being the same age as Charles I didn't get my phone out. However, accepting that phones are the reality now, the crowd was otherwise very quiet and respectful.

Rec0veringAcademic · 11/09/2022 18:29

Bluevelvetsofa · 11/09/2022 17:04

We had a road accident fatality at the end of our road, leading to the main through road. It was posted on the local page and someone complained that it would take him longer to get to work.

A young man threw himself on the subway tracks not long ago in my city. The number of utterly unfeeling idiots who commented along similar lines was unbelievable. The world had just ended for a desperate individual, but Jack was inconvenienced for 15 minutes - yeah, like that's even a comparison.

RaininSummer · 11/09/2022 18:29

I wont be watching the funeral other than catching it on the news but I do think that anyone who actually goes to pay their respects as the cortege passes and gets their phone out is very disrespectful.

RIPQueen · 11/09/2022 18:31

It’s depressing that peopLe can’t just enjoy the moment

Somethingneedstochange · 11/09/2022 18:36

I thought the same when I saw it on ITV news. Those are the ones that are only there to post on social media.

MsTSwift · 11/09/2022 18:39

If you read your history people used to be far worse!

Blossomtoes · 11/09/2022 18:42

But the reality is that humans do not change, we are not different. Our tools might be different but our behaviour is not.

But it is. I was born in Coronation year. When I was a child I was taught to stand still and bow my head if a hearse passed, everyone did it. Now I’m pretty much the only one. People behave in such shitty disrespectful ways now. It’s really ironic because everyone whinges about rudeness and disrespect while displaying both in spades.

Bpdqueen · 11/09/2022 18:43

It was televised absolutely no reason to take photos to post on social media

Floogal · 11/09/2022 18:46

I remember this was a thing during the Grenfell fire. Selfies, sick videos and self promotion.
But lockdown made this twattish behaviour worse. Thankfully my neighbourhood didn't do any cringey stuff during the Thursday applause, but youd see it on the news or social media. People recording themselves singing, drummers parading down the street with bratty kids doing that irritating flossing dance and pot banging. While people would get abusive in shops or 'rebelling' by having parties.
So this shouldn't come as a big surprise sadly

diligesmore · 11/09/2022 18:53

SpiderinaWingMirror · 11/09/2022 18:23

Yanbu.
I went to our local proclamation today. Some muppet held an ipad up right across my view. Why not just experience it.

That’s so frustrating! Why do they go just to record it when they could have watched it on TV with much better quality?

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DarkShade · 11/09/2022 18:54

Against the grain here, but it is a historical occasion. I think it's fine to film it, so long as are not being distracting or disrespectful about it.

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