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AIBU?

to refer to 11/9 rather than 9/11

136 replies

LargeDeviation · 11/09/2022 12:45

The growing Americanisation of our language seems to have accelerated massively over the last few years. I see 'mom' scrawled with abandon all over Mumsnet. Schoolchildren regularly refer to 'math'.

Yes, what happened on Sept 11 2001 was utterly tragic, and I am not seeking to cause anyone pain, but for some reason the totally illogical American date format really annoys me, even more than seeing a fine word lose its 'u'. Month/Day/Year - how can that possibly make any type of sense????

It's now long enough ago that when I talk about it to others, it causes them to stop for a moment and think - and thinking consciously about the loss of British English is maybe the first step to preserving it.

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larry4PM · 11/09/2022 14:18

YABU. 9/11 is their tragedy, 9/11 is what they want to call it.

Be grateful it didn't happen here, and we don't have a need to say 11/9.

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ilovemydogandmrobama2 · 11/09/2022 14:21

Yawn - another anti American thread.

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Reallyreallyborednow · 11/09/2022 14:21

I always thought 9/11 was an appropriate abbreviation because it’s also the US emergency number.

wondered if that was intentional…

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SmellsLikeMiddleAgeSpirit · 11/09/2022 14:26

That is now the name of the event rather than an actual date.

Precisely.
We call the war that happened between 1939 & 1945 World War 2, or just as acceptably, the Second World War. That's the name of the event. You'd sound twittish if you said 'that war in the early forties' or something, just because you preferred it.

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Testina · 11/09/2022 14:31

I’ve read a lot of wankerish shit on MN but this really does take the biscuit. You should be ashamed that you’d wrap some pointless snobbery up with a tragedy like 9/11.

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namechange30455 · 11/09/2022 14:35

YABU - it happened in America.

And Month/Day/Year clearly makes sense to you in some contexts, as you've written "Sept 11 2001", so YA also B a hypocrite.

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octoberfarm · 11/09/2022 14:39

YABMassivelyU to make a day where thousands of people lost lives and loved ones about you and your nitpicking of linguistic differences. It happened in the US, and as such it's appropriate to refer to a tragedy that happened in their country as they do in American English.

Re: Mom, Mumsnet isn't a site only used in the UK. It's not people going out of their way to ruin British English, it's just what Mums are called in the US, and even regionally in the UK.

But back to 9/11, as PP above have suggested, just say September 11th if it bothers you that much. Absolutely baffled that you could take offence at something like this on a day that ruined so very many peoples' lives. I mean, really?

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tellyiscrap · 11/09/2022 14:40

I think you should be ashamed to write this on here
Today of all days
Sending hugs across the pond ❤️

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SmellsLikeMiddleAgeSpirit · 11/09/2022 14:41

I don't think OP is going to come back now!

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Sparklingbrook · 11/09/2022 14:42

I think @LargeDeviation has had a large deviation from reality and empathy today.

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Cas112 · 11/09/2022 14:44

Gosh there are bigger things to worry about

It happened in America, majority of people are just naming it as the Americans would

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ghostyslovesheets · 11/09/2022 14:48

wind them up and watch them go eh OP?

YABU

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elp30 · 11/09/2022 14:52

SmudgeButt · 11/09/2022 14:18

Frankly I get annoyed when Brits (& others) say "America" when they mean the USA. America is 2 continents - North America and South America. To reduce the meaning down to one country (albeit a very noisy and self entitled one) is disrespectful of all the other countries in America. I accept that the citizens who live in/originate from the USA call themselves American.

Pedantic? Yes.

There's two continents, North and South, but don't forget Central America.

My father is from Mexico and he never called himself, "American" but Mexican despite being from North America. My next-door-neighbors are from Columbia and the call themselves, "Columbian" and "South American". Both the neighbors and my father called me and those of us from the United States as "Americans".

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MetalScrews · 11/09/2022 14:53

It was an American event so it makes sense to me to say it as the Americans say it. To say 11/9 would just be churlish.

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elp30 · 11/09/2022 14:56

@SmudgeButt

Also, referring to Americans as "very noisy and entitled" is very rude.

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Teddeh · 11/09/2022 14:59

I live in the US, and I (and most people I know) usually say "September eleventh" verbally, although "nine-eleven" is very common in the media and politics and 9/11 is how the date is written. But isn't "September 11 2001" (from your original post) also an Americanisation? Shouldn't it properly be 11 September 2001, in UK English usage?

Also, you haven't lost the "u"; certain words are just spelled differently in US vs UK usage. The UK usage is still considered correct internationally; in the USA the US usage is preferred but the UK usage is also considered correct.

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Kualma · 11/09/2022 15:08

I live in the West Midlands and I say mom. Not an Americanism.

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SenecaFallsRedux · 11/09/2022 15:10

ilovemydogandmrobama2 · 11/09/2022 14:21

Yawn - another anti American thread.

Yes, and on this day.

Some of us on MN who use Mom and other Americanisms are actually American. For the most part, I think most of us feel welcome on MN. But there are always a few xenophobic posts that crop up from time to time.

Also, many of us knew people who died on 9-11. One of my close friends lost her nephew at the Pentagon that day. He was a young soldier serving as an aide to a senior officer. It's very personal to most Americans.

Thanks to all on this thread who are saying YABU to the OP.

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TheVanguardSix · 11/09/2022 15:14

MNHQ really ought to use the dickhead alert on certain threads.

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Sparklesocks · 11/09/2022 15:15

I don’t let things like that upset me so much.

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Florenz · 11/09/2022 15:30

If the London attack had happened a day before or after, would the Americans have called it 6/7 or 8/7? I don't think so. It'd have been 7/6 or 7/8 to them.

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mynameiscalypso · 11/09/2022 15:32

I'm as pedantic as they come but calling it 11/9 is an absolute dick move.

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carefullycourageous · 11/09/2022 15:34

FourTeaFallOut · 11/09/2022 12:49

I think it's a bit rude to be having a pedant shit fit over something like this.

This is well put, I agree.

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StaunchMomma · 11/09/2022 15:38

OUR date system is not relevant when referring to something that happened TO THEM!!!

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Figgygal · 11/09/2022 15:41

It happened In America.
Of course it's recognised in the American date it's universal what it refers to.
Jesus wept

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