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Guilt over ultimatum to dh
guiltfeelings · 09/09/2022 17:05
A few months ago I gave dh an ultimatum after MIL was horrendously nasty to me (and said some extremely offensive things). He did at the time fully take my side but as the weeks went by she was trying to rebuild the relationship with him (as if I didn’t exist!) and I told him no. We are NC except for things like Happy birthday etc just a single text.
I have started to feel guilty. I have no reason to as I did nothing wrong but I feel bad for dh. There wasn’t an alternative to NC after the things that were said as they were that awful.
Im not sure what I want from this maybe just some help to understand that feeling guilty is ok but doesn’t mean I have to give in ? That I should stick to my beliefs that’s we need to keep her toxic behaviour out of our lives ? It feels wrong to have put such an abrupt end to their relationship but I had to make a stand. It doesn’t make it easy though 😞
Am I being unreasonable?
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Imthedamnfoolwhoshothim · 09/09/2022 18:18
I told my DH i couldn't have MIL in my life and if that meant binning him then that's what I would do. She was ruining my life.
We haven't had contact in 7 years. In the end she did something that caused him to cut her off independently. But I was in the middle of looking for solicitors.
What she has said is unforgivable and I would absolutly condem DH for wanting to continue with that.
XtinaCaligulara · 09/09/2022 18:20
spoonielife95 · 09/09/2022 18:18
@guiltfeelings right so you are forcing him then? Because if he didn’t agree with you and had contact with his mother you would make his life hell? You are at her level for that. Grow up and be mature and you will be the better person here
The OP is already a better person because she isn't a racist POS
I'm honestly baffled about how you can sit there and say it's unreasonable of the OP to be disgusted by a husband who speaks to a mother who racially abused his wife and children
How low is your bar?
KilmordenCastle · 09/09/2022 18:21
guiltfeelings · 09/09/2022 18:12
In all honesty if he did turn round and say he wanted to see her etc after the things said I would not be able to be near him as I had such s physical reaction to her comments at the time I think I’d be repulsed at him then spending any time with her . I know it’s his choice I hope he just continues to make the right choice
KilmordenCastle · 09/09/2022 18:09
I don't have anything to do with my MIL. She is an awful woman and I do not want her in my life at all. But I would never try to dictate whether dh has a relationship with her. His relationship with his mother is none of my business.
Your MIL has said truly unforgivable things and you are completely right to go NC with her and not want her in your dc's lives. But you absolutely cannot force your husband to go NC with his mum, it has to be his choice. I can understand you being upset with him if he chose not to, and I can understand that it would cause problems within your marriage. But going NC with a parent is complicated and not something that anyone should ever force another to do.
Then it would be his choice to have a relationship with his mum and your choice to no longer be in a relationship with him. But everyone still has a choice.
You don't get to tell a partner what they can and cannot do. You can make your wishes known and make it clear that certain things are lines that you will end the relationship if crossed. And make the decision to end to end it if those lines are crossed. But you don't get to dictate things to a partner.
spoonielife95 · 09/09/2022 18:23
@XtinaCaligulara I’m not condoning her behaviour at all but the OP cannot force her partner to cut-off his mother regardless of what she has done. She wants to cut her own relationship off and her children’s fair enough if the comments were about them, but forcing someone to cut-off a parent which can be traumatic and complex - it’s not straight forward - is controlling and not the signs of a healthy relationship of two adults
XtinaCaligulara · 09/09/2022 18:25
spoonielife95 · 09/09/2022 18:23
@XtinaCaligulara I’m not condoning her behaviour at all but the OP cannot force her partner to cut-off his mother regardless of what she has done. She wants to cut her own relationship off and her children’s fair enough if the comments were about them, but forcing someone to cut-off a parent which can be traumatic and complex - it’s not straight forward - is controlling and not the signs of a healthy relationship of two adults
Where is the OP saying she would make his life hell?
MyDogandClowns · 09/09/2022 18:27
I wouldn't suggest to your husband that he ought to consider having contact with his mother.
If he decides of his own accord, then that's up to him but I would be very unhappy in your shoes (if he did resume contact)
Don't let your DC be exposed to her vile racism, God how can their grandmother be so awful?!
My DH went no contact with his mum, including when she was dying and asked to see him (I felt pretty cut up on her behalf being a mother myself, but it was his decision)
He is much happier now his mum has died, she was truly awful to him and me. Our children had no relationship with her eventually, because she also hurt them with her callous indifference and attitude. They do not miss her.
It's quite sad when you try to put yourself in someone else's shoes, but then again I'm not a horrible racist nasty person.
XtinaCaligulara · 09/09/2022 18:28
spoonielife95 · 09/09/2022 18:26
@XtinaCaligulara stating she couldn’t be near him, couldn’t physically be in touch with him, he would repulse her… I’m sure that would make for a happy home environment!
Would you not be repulsed by someone who accepted racial abuse towards you and your children?
Also it's not making his life hell
Those are natural reactions to what the OP would be going through
At this point I'm wondering how much glue you've sniffed
XtinaCaligulara · 09/09/2022 18:32
spoonielife95 · 09/09/2022 18:30
@XtinaCaligulara she needs to butt out - as long as she protects herself and children from this - his relationship with her has nothing to do with OP. I would love your reaction if a man had written this post as his wife!
I'd have exactly the same reaction
I've gone NC with a family member due to comments half as bad made about my DH
You're wild to think any normal human being would sit there happily married to a man or woman who was in contact with someone who racially abused his wife and children
carefullycourageous · 09/09/2022 18:34
spoonielife95 · 09/09/2022 18:30
@XtinaCaligulara she needs to butt out - as long as she protects herself and children from this - his relationship with her has nothing to do with OP. I would love your reaction if a man had written this post as his wife!
You don't understand what racism is, perhaps, @spoonielife95 ?
I agree with @XtinaCaligulara
Gymnopedie · 09/09/2022 18:34
I can’t see him wanting to see her he was disgusted at what she said
He was disgusted with her and I think even if I said ‘mayhe you should try to get along with your mum ‘ I’m 99.9% sure he would say no way
I'm not sure you have anything to feel guilty about. Because you weren't really talking to him, were you? You were talking to her. It was a sort of 'come on then if you're hard enough'. It makes me think of being in a room with a DP and DC, and you say - in a normal voice, not a whisper - to DC 'Go and ask Daddy to put the kettle on'. On the surface you're talking to DC but you're not really.
But maybe you need a proper discussion with DH. Rather than winging it, talk until you have a plan of action for the future with which you both agree.
XtinaCaligulara · 09/09/2022 18:36
spoonielife95 · 09/09/2022 18:33
@XtinaCaligulara just because you found it okay to cut off family doesn’t mean everyone feels the same way - it’s not as black and white as that - especially when it’s a parent because parent child relationships are usually complicated
Of course it's as easy as that
Do you understand how awful racism is?
And insulting someone's child due to SEN?
Viostep · 09/09/2022 18:36
I don't understand the negative posts. If my mil persistently in treated me terribly I would hope my husband would tell her where to go. Technically she gave the ultimatum not you. Maybe she went to far when she racially abused you, and your husband rightly wants her out of his mixed race children's lives. Any decent parent wouldn't want to expose their children to that, especially from so called family.
You have nothing to feel guilty about. Enjoy the peace!
Panamera22 · 09/09/2022 18:41
OP this is so difficult and you have my sympathies. Tbh though if my mil made racist comments to me and ergo my children I would absolutely expect my dh to go no contact - she has literally insulted who should be the most important people in his life in the worst way!.
she is toxic in the extreme. I totally understand how you feel you have collaborated in hurting your dh by technically upholding her ultimatum be honestly the issue here is her. It’s not your job to tell her not to be so ridiculous- she’s a crap parent tbh as she’s putting her needs first!
SpaceshiptoMars · 09/09/2022 18:44
Hmmm. I'm not saying this isn't pretty bad, it is, but what form did MIL have before this incident? Any idea why she went into this rant? Or any idea that makes a smidgeon of sense? Was she trying to blame something, someone or anyone for the children having SEN and settled on you? Has this challenged her world view and she's flailing about, psychologically? Was she hoping for a fantasy grandmotherhood, and can't accept what she has?
What is your gut feeling? Is she an evil harridan, or is she unbelievably ignorant? Could she effectively be reeducated, given the time and will?
guiltfeelings · 09/09/2022 18:47
SpaceshiptoMars · 09/09/2022 18:44
Hmmm. I'm not saying this isn't pretty bad, it is, but what form did MIL have before this incident? Any idea why she went into this rant? Or any idea that makes a smidgeon of sense? Was she trying to blame something, someone or anyone for the children having SEN and settled on you? Has this challenged her world view and she's flailing about, psychologically? Was she hoping for a fantasy grandmotherhood, and can't accept what she has?
What is your gut feeling? Is she an evil harridan, or is she unbelievably ignorant? Could she effectively be reeducated, given the time and will?
She hasn’t ever been like this before, I found her to be slightly ignorant but we never argued. She is blaming the dc mixed heritage for the SEN saying it’s not SEN it’s behaviour as she used to work in a school and identified ‘mixed kids’ as naughty and was saying that it applies to my dc. Then said how disappointed she was dh ended up with me etc
XtinaCaligulara · 09/09/2022 18:47
Viostep · 09/09/2022 18:36
I don't understand the negative posts. If my mil persistently in treated me terribly I would hope my husband would tell her where to go. Technically she gave the ultimatum not you. Maybe she went to far when she racially abused you, and your husband rightly wants her out of his mixed race children's lives. Any decent parent wouldn't want to expose their children to that, especially from so called family.
You have nothing to feel guilty about. Enjoy the peace!
Yeah I'm wondering what's in the water for some posters on here with this one
Lightuptheroom · 09/09/2022 18:50
I had similar from my ex mil. She physically attacked me. Yes, you will feel.guilt as its the shock about the actual situation coming out. My ex H, refused to cut contact with her (and all I said was that she wasn't to visit our home any longer) a month later he physically attacked me as well and that was the end of our marriage.
My advice regarding how you feel is to talk to your DH about it, he was there, he heard it. What are his next steps going to be? How do you both move forward together? You should be able to voice what your contact with her isn't going to be and he should show his support of this. You don't have to have any contact with her at all, regardless of what he chooses to do. What you do need from him is a clear response that he isn't going to tolerate the comments at all.
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