AIBU?
To notice a growing hatred and intolerance of woman online?
foxofthefells · 09/09/2022 16:11
It's mostly in the past 2 years, typically in youtube comments under relatively benign things such as tv drama or film. I am also noticing it more on Amazon reviews when watching Prime tv content.
It's basically a fairly angry dismissal of women in general, so if a female character runs a police team or has an important, respectable role, the comments will often claim it to be 'woke' or 'women worship'. It is as if any respectful characterisation of a woman, especially in positions of power (whether in a career or sexuality) is degrading to men.
Alternatively, if the film or series depicts a troubled or vulnerable woman they remain suspiciously silent.
I have been watching and reading the same stuff over many years on the net, but have only noticed this growing loathing in the past two yrs or so.
More troubling are the comments or reviews of stories that depict crimes against women (Broadchurch, etc), where the content is described as 'pandering to women', 'men hating' or, again (and predictably....'woke'.
So, technically, it seems to be upsetting a lot of men to have to watch justice being done for rape and assault against women.
One crime series I watched recently depicted male members of a comany being held to account for sexual harassment. The comments/reviews for this were full of men complaining that back in the 80's women didn't mind being 'felt up' at work, so what is all the fuss about?
Has anyone else noticed this? I certainly don't look for this type of crap online, but often find it nestled in otherwise innocent places, and it appears to be growing.
I can't get my head around why any man would feel angry that we have to reduce harm and inappropriateness in general. Who are these cretins? Are they just baiting for a fight? Most of them seem genuinely upset that they can't enjoy the degradation of females in media anymore. It's a bit grim.
How many of them are there, and is this likely to become worse?
AlrightAlrightAlrightMatthewMcConaughey · 09/09/2022 16:12
I mean stop looking for things to be offended by.
foxofthefells · 09/09/2022 16:13
So basically it is woke now to respect a woman. What a neat way to conflate basic equality with extreme politics.
foxofthefells · 09/09/2022 16:13
AlrightAlrightAlrightMatthewMcConaughey · 09/09/2022 16:12
I mean stop looking for things to be offended by.
(.)(.)
YukoandHiro · 09/09/2022 16:13
You've only just noticed? It's been about a decade now. Maybe it's only just breaking through to light social media users
foxofthefells · 09/09/2022 16:14
Yes, i have only noticed recently as i never really use SM. I was aware of it in extreme cases, but not in user reviews.
Featuredcreature · 09/09/2022 16:15
Reddit has always been pretty insufferable but does seem to have gotten worse. I gave up even bothering during the whole Depp thing.
foxofthefells · 09/09/2022 16:16
I am honestly more interested in why, though. What is wrong with them? What the hell are they so uncomfortable about? Guess ive been living in a bubble 
YouAreNotBatman · 09/09/2022 16:25
Lots and lots of men hate women.
And now (well for few years - decade) they’ve been showing it on the internet.
I’m continuously suprised that women still like / want men in their lives.
There’s so many of them!
You can never know what they really thinking.
They seem to be attacted to pretty one’s, wnat sex with women and be their personal maid - but they don’t like women.
Or see them as fully human.
It’s sad…
PriOn1 · 09/09/2022 16:26
Yes, sexism is on the rise again. It existed all along and equality never arrived. Sexism was widely socially unacceptable when I was younger, but that seems to have gone into reverse.
I feel the western world is filled with anger at the moment, and it’s spilling out all over the place. The internet has also allowed like-minded people to find each other and can give the impression that lots of people agree with you, when the reality would be that few people in wider society do. Dominant angry voices drown out quieter, more reasonable ones.
It’s all rather depressing for those of is who thought real equality was surely just round the next bend.
Happycamper2022 · 09/09/2022 16:29
The only men who react are the men who benefitted from the silence of woman
Happycamper2022 · 09/09/2022 16:30
foxofthefells · 09/09/2022 16:16
I am honestly more interested in why, though. What is wrong with them? What the hell are they so uncomfortable about? Guess ive been living in a bubble
They are uncomfortable as they cannot get away with the behaviour that benefitted them for decades. Thats all
MargotChateau · 09/09/2022 16:35
My FIL is one of these types. I’m not ‘friends’ with him on Facebook precisely because he makes ghastly misogynistic comments on posts that used to pop up on my feed.
He gets furious with female sportspeople, presenters, female leads on television shows (like Dr Who which he’s never watched in his life).
It is grim.
Penguinsaregreat · 09/09/2022 16:37
This isn’t new. It has always been the case. Look at how women are depicted in all major religions. Look at the language used against women: Whore, bitch, slut, slag, tart, mutton dressed as lamb, old hag, cougar, cunt, frump, frigid. I could go on.
Whenever a female features heavily in anything be it a film, drama, documentary, position of power such as a politician etc watch all the mysoginists jump up and down in seething rage. Yet I can give you hundreds of crap leading men or men who have done a terrible job. Do these same uncles jump up and down screaming how a man has ruined x and y? No they don’t.
I’m surprised women still want men. I believe it is only due to the Imbalance of power that that do.
Plenty of older women who don’t need a man to be a father don’t have men in their lives.
justaladyLOL · 09/09/2022 16:40
"Has anyone else noticed this?"
No there is hate for everyone on line from someone
Ofcourseshecan · 09/09/2022 16:44
I don’t use social media much, but I have noticed what you describe, eg in comments on news stories.
It seems part of a whole anti-women trend, including incels and genderists. Use of language erasing women, eg ‘pregnant people’. Male sex offenders being housed in women’s prisons if they say they are now women, because their wishes outweigh women’s need for safety.
Odd that some of them oppose the ‘wokeness’ of portraying women in roles of authority, while others (those who oppose women’s efforts to defend their rights) would consider themselves ‘woke’ or progressive. Maybe that just shows how acceptable misogyny has become across the political spectrum.
DontSpeakLatinInFrontOfTheBooks · 09/09/2022 16:49
It’s been a problem for a long time and it’s definitely been getting steadily worse. Or people (men) are just more comfortable in more recent times to be open with their hatred and hostility towards women.
LaurieFairyCake · 09/09/2022 16:51
It's absolutely on the rise
Before you would not find it in Amazon reviews, film reviews - you'd have to go looking for it
Now you're finding it everywhere as they're DELIBERATELY going out to do it - it's like there's been a rallying call of Incel types to go and put content everywhere 🤔
MoistBandana · 09/09/2022 16:54
Some men hate females so much they'll promote and award a males dressed as a woman before they'll promote and award a female.
Ofcourseshecan · 09/09/2022 16:58
From the Filia newsletter that I’ve just received:
A position launched originally as 'Minister for Women' in 1997 has been watered down over the years, first to include the more generic 'Equality'. That wasn't deemed broad enough and a seemingly understated tweak to 'Equalities' swiftly followed. This blatantly misogynist trajectory was completed on Tuesday when the word Woman was erased altogether from the role, which is now simply called 'Minister for Equalities', and is headed by a man.
BoviTraci · 09/09/2022 17:03
I've noticed a lot of men don't like women in authority. They hate women telling them what to do .
mathanxiety · 09/09/2022 17:05
This has been a thing since the dawn of the internet.
And YY to the conflating of basic human decency with wokeness. There are big sections of the other side of society that hate us.
Farmageddon · 09/09/2022 17:09
YouAreNotBatman · 09/09/2022 16:25
Lots and lots of men hate women.
And now (well for few years - decade) they’ve been showing it on the internet.
I’m continuously suprised that women still like / want men in their lives.
There’s so many of them!
You can never know what they really thinking.
They seem to be attacted to pretty one’s, wnat sex with women and be their personal maid - but they don’t like women.
Or see them as fully human.
It’s sad…
Yes, I agree. It's always been there, but now these men have the relative anonymity of SM to vent their contempt. They also have the support of tech companies who refuse to properly moderate and purge misogyny from their sites.
These guys actually think they like women, because they are sexually attracted to them. But that doesn't equate to respect. Women are to be looked at, judged, good for one thing etc. So long as we act 'appropriately', stay in our lane and don't expect more, we are vaguely tolerated. But anything else and we are pegged as bossy, problematic, uppity etc.
There seem to be quite a lot of men out there who think feminism has gone 'too far' and somehow needs a rebalance, or just want to take women down a peg or two particularly women in the public eye.
Farmageddon · 09/09/2022 17:11
MoistBandana · 09/09/2022 16:54
Some men hate females so much they'll promote and award a males dressed as a woman before they'll promote and award a female.
And also this. So many men can openly now hurl insults and abuse at women who want to maintain single sex spaces, or acknowledge biology etc. and be lauded as liberal and progressive for it.
Didn't you know that men are far better at being women than us boring old actual women OP?
RestingMurderousFace · 09/09/2022 17:15
There seems to be a huge swathe of men online who only value pretty, young, fuckable women. The rest of us are surplus to requirements. Not sure if I'm noticing it more the older I get, or if they're actually increasing in number.
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