How did she decline so rapidly?

[Maggiethecat]

Not really trying to know the cause of the queen’s death although I have wondered but can’t get my head round that picture of her greeting Liz Truss to her death 2 days later.

Initially thought it must have been something acute like a stroke or heart but then it seems like she has been ailing (haven’t really taken note, other than palace statements of mobility issues).

Perhaps she had been bedridden for weeks and made a huge effort on Monday to fulfil her last duty but I’m inclined to think had that been the case more of her family would have been near.

I don’t understand the comments about how she didn’t have a long slow decline. She clearly did and was cancelling most engagements routinely, we hardly even saw her at her jubilee. The fact she could appear in public for a few mins every now and again doesn’t change that. You could see it In her weight loss. Her mobility issues. The fact she rarely appeared in public and Charles stood in for her much of the time. When she did appear it was incredibly brief. A few minutes and no more. She’s done nothing more than that for months now.

amd for those disputing cancer. Yes you can go that quickly, we have seen many people appear in the public eye/photo the day before demise, Olivia Newton John being a recent one. And many oncologists confirmed the haemorrhaging in her hands showed end stage cancer and imminent passing and were proven correct. Yes it could have been something else as well I guess. But why search for something else when the obvious is obvious?

Imagine being private about your health all your life and then when you die have everyone examine every picture, engagement and movement so they can guess what illness you had?

She was 96, she was going to die at some point. Why not leave it at that. If she wanted everyone it will be announced by the palace.

Well for one there hasn’t been a suggestion of dementia. At 96 that’s a lot to be thankful for.

I don’t think anyone would suggest she hasn’t massively slowed down but she’s been riding and driving recently so still clearly capable of doing things that mean a lot to her, even if less of it. The photos of her from that horse event pretty recently too showed someone who still got a lot of enjoyment from life.

When I think of a of a long decline I think of relatives who barely did anything apart from lie in bed for years.. The Queen wasn’t like that.

Obviously the PM, the utterly shite Johnson, knew about her condition but still hung on during the summer, taking two holidays, in the hope to be PM before the Queen died. He's a charlatan of the highest order and his speech today in the HOC was a disgrace. He knows nothing about hard work and loyalty. I love that she shook the hand of a woman who wanted the Monarchy to be abolished. Well played ma'am.

I'm getting very disturbed by Paddington's sudden promotion to the role of Grim Reaper. You leave my bear alone!

She was 96 years old. The elderly can decline rapidly and the queen was no exception.

When I think of a of a long decline I think of relatives who barely did anything apart from lie in bed for years.. The Queen wasn’t like that.

Agree. With many other accompanying problems.

Undoubtedly she's been getting frailer and less mobile.

But if you you've seen " a long decline" that isn't it.

My grandmother died at 95. Fit as a fiddle one day and died the next day. After doing all her housework in the morning. Unfortunately at that age the body isn’t very forgiving and when something does go wrong there are very few options.

I've had bruising like that from a cannula.

On the picture with Truss there’s bruising to the back of her hand which looks like a cannula has been there.

I suspect she’s not declined as rapidly as portrayed and has likely been unwell for some time x

The overseas press have been reporting cancer for at least a year including speculation of why there was a UK news embargo.

This has been a topic for ages.

It's not a cannula because the brusing has been there and in photos of her for a very long time (going back years but getting worse.)

It appears to be a bruising that is common in the elderly because of very thin skin and also perhaps being on blood thinning meds that can cause bruises very easily.

I don't think she did decline so fast as posters here are saying.

There has been evidence of circulation/ heart/ kidney issue perhaps for years- swollen ankles and calves as well as unhealed ulcers on her shins. She was often seen with sticking plasters over the ulcer on her right calf (going back many years.)

I don't think we will know what she suffered from but my guess is something heart-related and maybe other things too, to account for her weight loss.

How vile and unnecessary.

Sorry to hear that, so sad x

My father died very suddenly - he was much younger than the Queen - only in his 70s - and while his health had not been good in the preceding years, his death was a real surprise. He had a nasty cold, in the days leading up to his death, but wasn’t ill enough for my mum to say he needed to see the doctor, and then he suddenly collapsed one morning, whilst relighting their coke fired central heating boiler. Despite their neighbour’s best efforts at CPR, he was dead when the paramedics arrived.

So I can see how the Queen could have collapsed suddenly - even though she did look good when she saw Liz Truss. I am sure her sense of duty would have impelled her to put her best foot forward for this important royal duty, even if she was unwell and it took a real effort.

Princess Anne, Zara, King Charles and the Queen Consort all animal lovers and sure provision has been made for them

When I saw the Queen in the balcony at her recent platinum jubilee, I think she knew it was her last time on that balcony waving at the public.

I just heard ( if I heard that right) that 90 per cent of the world population was born after her coronation in 1952.

@Teddletime my 18 year old ds randomly asked this question as well

At any age you can die at any time. There are people in their 30's who go to bed and never wake up.

OP you sound very young, that's not a criticism but not to realise that at 96 years old, you can pop your clogs with no prior warning suggests you've not been around long enough to know it's a thing!

I like to think of The Queen being greeted by Philip and a Susan ( The Queen’s Dynastic Corgi) her other dogs , ponies and horses, plus Burmese, her special Troop horse gifted to her by the Canadian Mounties.
If Heaven really was like this, how lovely it would be..

Then my admiration for HMQ increases exponentially that she struggled with the health challenges of old age, yet kept going because it was the life she loved and what kept her going in service of her country.

People have a bit of control over when they go, too. I heard a fascinating presentation once about how, in some societies where people believe it is a good thing to die on a Friday, there are more deaths on Fridays than there should be, statistically.

It felt a bit as if the Queen did her bit on Monday and then bowed out, having had her fill of crap PMs.

My great nan was in a home but well enough as could be at over 100
She sat in a chair asked for a cup of tea and then passed in her sleep in the chair , peacefully and unexpectedly

I imagine that she had a much more controlled and painless passing than most people benefit from. Sadly end of life care in the UK is pretty shocking and many people face an awful death in extreme pain.

I know personally of 2 over 90s who simply died in their sleep, having been increasingly frail but not actually ill beforehand. Great way to go, if you can manage it.