How did she decline so rapidly?

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Not really trying to know the cause of the queen’s death although I have wondered but can’t get my head round that picture of her greeting Liz Truss to her death 2 days later.

Initially thought it must have been something acute like a stroke or heart but then it seems like she has been ailing (haven’t really taken note, other than palace statements of mobility issues).

Perhaps she had been bedridden for weeks and made a huge effort on Monday to fulfil her last duty but I’m inclined to think had that been the case more of her family would have been near.

*She was a very old woman who lived a very good life and that life had come to its natural conclusion.

You say in your OP, OP that you're not really trying to know the cause of the Queen's death, why should you know? What actually caused her death has absolutely nothing to do with anyone except her family.*

Yep ultimately the first paragraph is true.

But it sort of misses the massive historical and cultural impact of the "very old woman" who has just died. A bit. 🤣

And the interest that comes with that.

Because she was 96?

That Paddington picture is both awful and hilarious.

Paddington as some kind of grim reaper escorting her to the afterlife? What has Paddington got to do with death and heaven and Prince Philip?

And what has Paddington got to do with the Queen other than that quick skit she did for the Jubilee?

There will be a plan. She had been resistant to getting any more dogs for years because she didn't want to outlive them. Apparently she had to be persuaded to take on the most recent so I am sure she had a plan for their care.

There is talk that Angela Kelly may take them or Prince Andrew (who gifted two of them to her) but all her children have dogs, as do William, Harry and Zara so I am sure they will be well cared for by people familiar to them.

That was a corker 😂

Coroners often no longer accept old age on death certificates.

When you are dying, your organs will stop and fail either way. I don't believe you can tell by hands, IMO. I've worked at hospitals and seen my fair share of hospice. But I also don't pay attention to HRH or Royals unless article or special event is all over internet. So, if she has had Cancer in past then it very well could of spread or came back.
What do you mean by hands?!

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I have to say I am jealous. She lived long live with her husband and died shortly after. Didn’t have to carry on for much longer without him. I always feel sorry for people losing soulmate in their 50s to live 20-30 years without them. This is one of my biggest fears in life.

This was last year and the coroner was absolutely fine with it although surprised to have been contacted.

That's ridiculous. Why does it impact her dignity in any way if we're told she died of heart failure following a heart attack?

Not really. Is she not entitled to have her cause of death private? Some people want to. And quite frankly, why the fuck do you want to know?!

Coroners often no longer accept old age on death certificates.

They did as of a few months ago when my nan died.

Not necessarily, people who are on blood thinners for heart conditions get these bruises frequently.
Also, if they knew she was so close to death surely more of her nearest and dearest would’ve been quietly brought close by to say their farewells before she passed. May she rest in peace.

My grandmother died ‘suddenly’ at 96 a couple of years ago.

I say suddenly, as at 96 it wasn’t entirely unexpected, she was in a care home, frail, had lost lots of weight, suffered with regular falls, and had declined in the 6 months before her death. However, I’d seen her on the Sunday afternoon, she was chatty, bright, sitting in her chair, her usual self really - fussing around us all with offers of biscuits and endless cups of tea and nagging my Dad to go and make it.

She died on the Monday afternoon - her carers used to pop in her room and have a cup of tea and a chat with her during their break. Her carers said she seemed sleepy and dozing when they noticed her breathing suddenly change and she slipped away.

She did have issues with bruising towards the end, she’d only have to knock her hand on something and would end up with an enormous bright purple bruise.

I think most of the general public are so unused to/scared of death that we want to rationalise it when it happens. Hence the rumours going round that it was a fall, cancer, stroke etc. But she was 96 and frail and I've often known women not hang on very long after their long-term husbands died, so, while sad, I'm not surprised. At least she seems to have died peacefully, in her favourite place and with her children at her side.

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Thank you both 🌺

I'm going to be controversial here and say it was because of Covid19. Sudden deaths post mild Covid19 infection months later does happen, and these sudden deaths are increasing.

I also think she couldn't be roused from her sleep and died much earlier in the day.

At her age, and what a life, it's a lovely way to die. Prince Philip did suffer a lot in the last few years of his life.

Of course you are - because we couldn't have a thread about death without someone bringing it up.

Coroners often no longer accept old age on death certificates

My father died in 2016, so I don't know what the situation is now.

I was with my mum (albeit in hospital) at 2.30pm on the Wednesday, I made her tea and had a normal chat. She was frail but okay (ish). She died at 11.45am on the Friday.

Some people just go quickly and avoid months of drawn out pain, she’s lucky to be so well two days before, it shows she didn’t suffer too much. My grandad died quickly, he was pottering in his garden right as rain, got a bit of a headache went for a midday nap and never woke up, so it definitely can happen very quickly.

Such a load of tosh, stated so confidently and yet based on absolutely zero knowledge of the facts.

They are just part of her household, and will be cared for by the same staff who will have cared for them all along. I very much doubt she has been spooning out the pedigree chum and walking them round the block with the poo bags of late, so life for them will go on pretty much as before I'm sure.

I thought that as well! I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I really thought that looked very strange.

Well, no, not really. We all die of something. It will be stated clearly on our death certificate.
As for why I want to know as I said, it's a very human response when you're told someone has died, is it not? 'I'm so sorry. What happened were they ill? '

In fact, in most circumstances it would be almost rude not to ask.
The queen was an immensely important national, international and historical figure. It would be quite normal to ask how she died, even at a great age. I think it's important for history too.
This coyness about death and dying seems to be aligned for many with the belief that it won't happen to them. Sorry, but....

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