To take DD to A&E?

[Flyinghighinthestars]

Just to show her nothing is wrong? DD is 16 and has autism and adhd. She came back from college today and said one of her ‘friends’ told her to use a vape that they saw on the pavement as they we’re walking home, DD picked it up and used it and then told me when she got home. Apparently it had no vape left in it so didn’t work properly but DD tried it around 5-6 times as her friends we’re telling her to. Anyway now she’s home she’s overthinking (she does this because of her autism) and really worrying saying ‘what if it had dirt or soil on/in it from being on the floor and I accidentally breathed it in’ ‘what it vaping it (the battery was still working apparently) with nothing in has done me harm’ and so on. She’s saying her “voice sounds different” (it sounds the same to me) and saying her throat feels like it’s burning and her chest feels “weird” (DD can’t explain why it feels weird) and “hurts a little”. Me and DH have reassured her nothing is wrong but she’s overthinking still and having a full on autistic meltdown right now. Should I just take her to A&E and get her checked out just to show her she is fine? DD has never used a vape before this incident

God don’t even go there, imagine it if it had thc in! Imagine the meltdown there from her, god doesn’t bear thinking about

OP what do you usually do when she has a meltdown?

This is a teaching moment for you to tell your daughter you don't pick up anything from the floor and put it in your mouth.

It's not the job of an already stretched AandE to do this for you.

My daughter is autistic so no judgement here.

Personally - I would NOT phone 111 - they veer on the side of caution and tend to direct people to A and E - they have done that to me in the past. They may well start thinking of really dire things.

The symptoms she is having are anxiety related. Let her be in a safe space hving her meltdown - I absolutely know you know your daugther best, but for my child - I find she reacts best when I stay as calm as possible.

You are the adult here - just tell her there is absolutely no danger that she has hurt her lungs or damaged herself and she needs to just calm down and if she still feels unwell tomorrow you will take her to the GP. Millions and millions of people use vapes and probably inhale when it has run out - a few puffs on a vape are NOT going to harm her in anyway.

how did I not think of this, just shows my head Is a mess from dealing with her meltdown. Will get a sports bottle now and put a drink in that

I sat in a&e last week for 6 hours before I was seen for swelling on the brain , a very frail old lady who rapidly deteriorated with a broken hip sat for 5 hours ,two serious conditions imo, please for the love of god do not go to a&e and waste time for this when they could be dealing with people who desperately need help

Try a natural sea water nasal spray, it’ll clear and clean her airways and give her a little reassurance.
I use them regularly, never get colds or blocked nose etc.

This hasn’t happened in years and years and I’ve already tried everything that worked back then

I would if we have one, but don’t think we have one

You’ll set up a pattern if you take her to A&E.

Sorry, it must be so difficult.

I won’t phone 111 incase they say A&E then and DD hears

Chest pain is a very, very common side effect of panic/anxiety

The other thing to bear in mind is, this meltdown is almost certainly not caused solely by the vape stress.

Particularly in females, autistic people can bottle things up and stress levels can bubble up and up until something small makes it all explode. If this is the first week back at school then there’s been a lot of change in routines, a lot of stress in the build up and settling back in, and this on top is probably just what’s made it all explode. Once calm and in a few days, perhaps at the weekend, may be worth chatting through how things are going generally with getting back to school.

psychcentral.com/anxiety/can-anxiety-cause-chest-pain

www.talkspace.com/mental-health/conditions/articles/anxiety-chest-pain/

If there was no liquid in the tank, then all she did was burn the coil dry , which would taste burnt. It would do her no harm at all and a dry hit as its called can hit the back of the throat but its just cotton , completely harmless. My partner has worked in the vape industry for over a decade and I've vaped for nearly 6.

It was a disposable vape? Or do they all work the same way? Sorry just never vaped before so no idea how they work

Yes I will definitely speak to her about how things are when she’s calmer

YABU because people
in A&E are having or at risk of serious harm or injury or illness. Such as strokes, heart attacks, sepsis, head injuries, painful injuries or events. This are time critical and should not be slowed down by others without these issues.
However try 111 and explain that you are trying to avoid a full meltdown and bigger problem and perhaps ask for a callback from a doctor or nurse practitioner to calm your daughter.
I hope your DD is ok and manages to cope.

Yeah they work the exact same way , just that you can't refill them or remove the tank or the battery , it's just all incased in the plastic.

Ok glad to hear again it won’t have calmed her, just don’t know how to reassure DD

Use your phone to phone ( don't phone ) the hospital for advice. Tell her they've told you she would have collapsed if it did her harm, hopefully that will set her mind at rest..

Just been trying to reassure her again, got on the floor with her but she just came over to me hit out

Ring 111 or an nhs pharmacist to reassure her

I use disposable vapes and the only thing you get once the liquid is gone is a slightly burnt taste in your mouth, nothing to warrant worrying about. I also am neurodiverse and suffer with anxiety and I can see how this may make your daughter overthink the situation. Please assure her that it’s nothing to worry about. Drink some water, brush teeth and let it be a lesson that next time her friends “encourage” her to do something it might not be in her best interest to do so. I hope she can relax a bit and learn from it. This is the problem with the disposables, I take mine to the local battery bin in the supermarket but others just literally throw them like litter and with them being bright they are soon spotted and picked up by inquisitive children young and older. My 5 yr old son know what they are and he’s often pointed them out on the pavement and said “those should go in the battery bin” he’s also got ASD but has never offered to touch one before and he knows they’re for “grown ups”