Male period dignity officer sacked so whole idea scrapped...

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-62807683

Why?
Why not just give the job to - oh I don't know - a woman???

Why scrap it totally?

If a man can't have the job no one can?

Ffs.

Georgeskitchen · Today 16:05
"Why is a period dignity officers even required? Periods are not new dontcha know, they've actually been around since women were invented. Don't the authorities trust us any more to deal with a natural bodily function?
Should someone appoint a bowel officer in case people need instructions on how to correctly take a shit?"

Beautiful. 😂

What gets me is 50% of the population have awareness of periods. So what do we need to be promoting exactly? And to who? How does this benefit women?

In terms of workplaces not giving time off for medical issues, that's straight up discrimination. So just make the fucking point about that. All this almost infantilising all women as defective and less productive, because periods / menopause is counterproductive.

Instead it would be helpful to have better diagnosis and treatment for women who have problems.

To be honest, I feel sorry for the bloke. The person/group who thought it was a good idea to hire a man as a period dignity officer should be punished.

You truly couldn’t make this shit up!

100% Agree.
It was a project management position. Don’t need a uterus or a penis to manage a project, just a brain.

Exactly right.

I think we need a female erectile dysfunction dignity officer. Just for project management of course.

Re DBS it clearly says a PVG (Scottish scheme, Protection of Vulnerable Groups record) is required.

PVGs are also for positions of trust that have no direct contact with vulnerable groups. Project management puts you in charge of the spending of government funds, which is by definition a position of trust.

The shit employers in the private sector tend to get weeded out, particularly if they're earning 35,000 a year. The shit employees in the public sector get moved to another job in the public sector.

Oh for god's sake.

Ok.
Post required someone to "aid in the implementation of the Period Product Act" and to "coordinate and streamline the approach to Period Dignity."

I don't think there's a single grown adult posting here who thinks that this just involves some chump turning up with a clipboard and check list, crossing and ticking what has/hasn't been adhered to.
Anyone does think that has frankly zero comprehension of what 'period dignity' means for women and girls.

"Successful track record of engaging and empowering a large range of people from a diverse range of cultural and socio-economic backgrounds, in particular young people who menstruate" is particularly pertinent I think. Any dick head can come along and say "you're doing this, but not that... Do this please" but fucking CLEARLY this role needs someone who has SOME skin in the game in order to develop approaches to period dignity. Someone who has an iota of understanding how menstruation affects women and girls, in order to make effective changes and empower women and girls.
Because that's what the JD requires. No one else needs to be empowered about period dignity other than women and girls.

FYI - A FEMALE.

In the current climate this is clearly going to be a role that will require an understanding of how the ever changing goal posts affect women and girls and their right to safety and dignity when it comes to menstruation.

MEN CANNOT DO THIS.

It's nuanced, yes. But clear to anyone with a fucking brain.

Hah hah no they don’t. I was in the public sector and we would absolutely do the year long process to sack a shit employee and no they’d not get another public sector job. They’d usually “pretend” they decided to leave and end up in the private sector! The public sector has had so much in the way of budget cuts, we cannot afford to have shit employees. The deadwood is trimmed as fast as we can trim it.

It does seem ridiculous.

The only thing I think of is if this role was actually about educating and engaging with boys & men rather than women?

I can see how a teenage boy might find it easier talking to a man about this than a woman.

However, I doubt the above was the case

You notice that they haven't outlined the alleged "abuse". Taking the piss out of a ludicrous appointment is apparently abuse now.
Tbh, part of me wanted to see him try and mansplain the menopause to menopausal women. They should have live streamed it and charged for access. I'd have paid good money to watch that.

There was a lot of abusive tweets and comments, many of which the platforms have since deleted. The man hired also had to delete his SM accounts. The abuse and threats also extended to other colleagues and even students.

His job is definitely not to personally ring up schools and ask if they provide pads. His role was to be the manager and public face of the role which is ALL about issues women face. I’m sure the day to day operational tasks of ensuring compliance could be done by a man but it seems very controversial to give the “face” of menstruation role to a dude… like seriously???

but fucking CLEARLY this role needs someone who has SOME skin in the game in order to develop approaches to period dignity.

Thats why project managers, including this Period Dignity Officer, have what is called a project team. And the project team members then develop and send out materials for local female representatives to hold focus groups and do issue oriented surveys of the target population (so asking women and girls about periods in an anonymous way). This is called “engagement” btw in pm parlance. It never means “talk direct to”. The responses and recommendations are then collated and analysed by the project team who then passes that on to the project manager in the form of a report with specific steps to use to improve the project execution. You don’t need to be a female to be passed on the recommendations from females and then implement them. Any project manager can do this regardless of their sex.

Have you got any evidence of those allegations you've just made @Discovereads?

What allegations?

I don’t care what it took to get rid of him.
Good riddance.

I completely agree @WiderBertha. I had this discussion when his appointment was announced and there were some very disingenuous posters on here insistent that it was a role that was entirely appropriate for a man. And I can they're out again on this post.

The internalised misogyny is strong in some.

If this was a role about erectile dysfunction, empowering and engaging men, it would be entirely inappropriate for a woman to be spearheading the campaign.

Sometimes the sex of a role holder matters, and there's nothing wrong with that.

This!

It’s like transwomen whining that we’re mean for not being comfortable sharing toilets with men. Maybe I don’t want to wash period blood off my fingers next to a man.

Men don’t know what they don’t know. And the fact that this man accepted the period dignity role shows he knew FA about female period dignity in the first place.

That's a good point about engaging boys in the subject of periods, but I think the job description talks about the main role being empowering/engaging women/girls.

Also, the publicity shots were him sitting down with an array of period products in front of a young girl and her mum. The optics on it absolutely stunk - hence the outcry.

Oh dear, I shouldn't have trusted the gynaecologist. Maybe I shouldn't have let him do the hysterectomy, although to be fair it did stop all the problems.

Take a look at this picture and tell me if you think this is not wrong?

Two men, one dressed in red, a table full of sanitary products and a mortified looking teenager. I mean WTAF???? Why is he dressed in a red t shirt? It’s not a coincidence is it?

I feel sorry for that poor kid. She looks like she wants to be swallowed up by a hole. No one wants a MAN talking to them about periods.