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Time for the Queen to abdicate?

330 replies

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 06/09/2022 14:08

If the first day of our new 'Prime Minister' is spent having to do a 1,000 mile round trip to Balmoral and back, rather than sorting out immediate problems, then is it time for the Queen to abdicate and let Charles take over?

OP posts:
FayeGovan · 06/09/2022 19:18

Completely agree with @derxa re the queen of England nonsense

Novum · 06/09/2022 19:20

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 06/09/2022 14:19

@ellyoctober

What's a "1000 mile round trip and back"?

London to Balmoral is 516 miles.

So it's actually 1,032 miles.

Have you heard of Googlemaps?

By air it's 403 miles each way.

BlackForestCake · 06/09/2022 19:21

King George had about six months left to live when he got up from his sick bed to accept’s Attlee’s resignation and appoint Churchill prime minister.

I think the Queen can do as much or as little work as she likes. The duties she performs are hardly doing a shift down the pit. Nobody will be giving her a hard time if she doesn’t reply to emails fast enough.

Seeing out her days at Balmoral is probably a much better option for her than creating a constitutional crisis by abdicating. That would just be a whole lot of stress that might well hasten her end.

Anothernamechangeplease · 06/09/2022 19:23

NancyDrooo · 06/09/2022 18:52

Would people really rather we become a republic and have a president as our main man/woman? No thanks.

I would, but rather than a party political figure like Trump, I would rather have someone who has achieved in fields other than politics. Someone like David Attenborough for example.

Grumpybutfunny · 06/09/2022 19:29

Nope to a president have you seen what happened with trump. Even from a financial point of view they bring in more than the sovereign grant. It wasn't really a 500 mile drive more a 20 minute hop on a fast jet. She was never getting down to business today let her celebrate her win and go in tomorrow with a clear head ready to tackle the issue.

TartanGirl1 · 06/09/2022 19:35

HelpMeGetThrough · 06/09/2022 18:46

She's incredible for 96. And will die on the Throne.

Hopefully with dignity, having pulled the flush first.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

TenRedThings · 06/09/2022 19:37

She won't ever abdicate. The monarchy will die with her. All her successors have zero charisma and are just parasites parading the rich lifestyles which we are paying for.

Bazinga007 · 06/09/2022 19:39

It's about time she abdicated and finally get herself a job.

greenhousegal · 06/09/2022 19:39

She will not give it up. She is wily and stubborn. She paid millions to shut Giuffre up. Where did she get that money? not on a production line. She made sure laws suited her and her financial gain. She is not respected by me.

Charles is not much better. Lecturing us about climate and hopping between his and Camilla's separate houses and then all over the place by helicopter. I am not looking forward to his RedFaced Highness and his plummy voice pretending he is a man of the people. He should iron his own newspapers for starters.

They are a bunch of sly self serving under educated inbred weaklings.

But doff your cap quick.

DonnaDonna0 · 06/09/2022 19:39

Charles and Camilla, I can’t think of anything worse.

VestaTilley · 06/09/2022 19:41

YABVU, and ignorant. The Queen deserves our respect and support, not idle speculation.

She’ll never abdicate; she’ll stay with us until the end. We’re lucky to have her.

Topgub · 06/09/2022 19:49

@VestaTilley

Why?!

TartanGirl1 · 06/09/2022 19:50

VestaTilley · 06/09/2022 19:41

YABVU, and ignorant. The Queen deserves our respect and support, not idle speculation.

She’ll never abdicate; she’ll stay with us until the end. We’re lucky to have her.

What are we lucky to have her?

54isanopendoor · 06/09/2022 19:53

Anothernamechangeplease · 06/09/2022 14:10

I don't think she needs to abdicate. They could have just done it via Zoom/Teams.

As for Charles taking over, no thank you. Let's scrap the monarchy altogether when the Queen dies.

Yes, to both ideas.
Well said @Anothernamechangeplease

Vanderpump · 06/09/2022 19:59

VestaTilley · 06/09/2022 19:41

YABVU, and ignorant. The Queen deserves our respect and support, not idle speculation.

She’ll never abdicate; she’ll stay with us until the end. We’re lucky to have her.

Why?

GaffNest · 06/09/2022 20:51

NancyDrooo · 06/09/2022 18:52

Would people really rather we become a republic and have a president as our main man/woman? No thanks.

Britain is a republic. It’s been a republic for over 200 years.

Crown republic, Royal republic, two of the more common terms.

1689 Bill of Rights: supremacy of Parliament over the crown. The monarch is a figurehead. George III of course violated the “rights of Englishmen” (no taxation without representation being one right he trampled on) which caused the US colonies to breakaway.

The set up is actually quite good in that the head of state is essentially powerless bar having to go through constitutional formalities like today, or the state opening of Parliament. The only right they have is to be consented, and “advise” (which can be dismissed).

From an economic standpoint it would be lunacy to get rid of an institution that brings in unquantifiable wealth to the UK. It is the backbone of the UK’s soft power status around the world. The UK is a tiny island (smaller than New York State I believe), but brings in investment far and above any equivalent sized region/state/nation on Earth, and the big reason for that is it’s soft power status. What is it fifth largest economy in the world? The UK without a monarchy (and really there is only one on the planet) would largely become just any other country. Like the institution or not, it has a gravitas that is the envy of the world. The Royal seal of approval is real, at home and abroad. UK businesses that have a Royal warrant flaunt that status for a reason, and there’s also a reason why Royals are wheeled out to do business with foreign companies.

ReneBumsWombats · 06/09/2022 20:52

Isn't it a constitutional monarchy?

LovePoppy · 06/09/2022 20:57

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 06/09/2022 14:25

@sparepantsandtoothbrush

I actually said

a 1,000 mile round trip to Balmoral and back

Forgive me for not including the extra 32 miles.

Pedantic, much?

This just keeps getting better

OvaryActions · 06/09/2022 21:07

satelliteheart · 06/09/2022 14:26

London to Balmoral is 516 miles.

So it's actually 1,032 miles.

Have you heard of Googlemaps?

Oh dear, how embarrassing for you op. The point the poster was making is that a "round trip" refers to going there AND back. So you can't do a "round trip and back"

No it's embarrassing for all the posters who jumped on OP knowing full well what she meant. She didn't just say "round trip and back" did she. It was "round trip: to Balmoral and back" (minus some punctuation).
You all thought you'd be hilarious and derail someone's thread by making the exact same 'joke' over and over Confused ...then tell her she's embarrassing because she didn't understand that you were misquoting her to make an irrelevant point 😂

OvaryActions · 06/09/2022 21:10

strugglingmum82 · 06/09/2022 17:57

Abolish the monarchy

🙌🏽 This!!

DillDanding · 06/09/2022 21:12

The Queen deserves our respect and support, not idle speculation.

She’ll never abdicate; she’ll stay with us until the end. We’re lucky to have her.

I agree she won’t abdicate. But I’d love to know why we’re ‘lucky to have her’ or what she’s done to merit ‘respect and support’.

She should be eternally grateful that simply by happenstance of birth, she and her family have been afforded untold wealth and privilege. Un-earned and undeserved.

GaffNest · 06/09/2022 21:15

Vanderpump · 06/09/2022 19:59

Why?

She’s one of the most popular monarchs in history. When she dies it will be find it hard to find an equivalent outpouring of respect globally (even Mandela when he died had enemies, and Mother Teresa certainly did with her weird views on people suffering). Liz is almost untouchable (only trouble she had was the Diana week..”where is our Queen”, which she managed to navigate in the end).

The wealth she alone has generated to the UK over her 60 plus years would be astronomical. She’s the one person any foreign dignitary wants to meet.

Her way way of dealing with people (see the Martin McGuinness handshake) is as good as it gets. She is the ultimate diplomat in that she gives nothing away, and that’s very difficult to maintain over six decades.

Charles though, he’s a wrecking ball. If they are wise the crown will go straight to William.

KentuckyDerbyandJoan · 06/09/2022 21:16

DonnaDonna0 · 06/09/2022 19:39

Charles and Camilla, I can’t think of anything worse.

Completely agree

GaffNest · 06/09/2022 21:21

ReneBumsWombats · 06/09/2022 20:52

Isn't it a constitutional monarchy?

It’s a strongly limited constitutional monarchy, hence more accurately it’s a crowned/royal republic.

Jordan, Kuwait, and Bahrain, they are constitutional monarchies where the sovereign has substantial power. The UK bears no resemblance to this.

VivX · 06/09/2022 21:43

Brefugee · 06/09/2022 14:48

I don't think she needs to abdicate. They could have just done it via Zoom/Teams.

also getting "this meeting could have been an email" vibe from this trip. In 2 planes.

"This meeting could have been an email"😂😂😂

But really all of those meetings could have just been abolished.
Along with the monarchy.