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To still live my best life even though I’m fat

403 replies

Whatyagonnadokatie · 03/09/2022 22:26

Many mnetters hate fat people. They dress it up as concern for health. But I think it’s something deeper than that. Something about us letting ourselves lose self discipline or something. Some people even seem to think that we shouldn’t have nice clothes (let me tell you, no one purposely gains weight to wear some lovely plus size clothes).

reading some threads on here break my heart when women dread going to social events because they are fat.

aibu to say, fuck that, get on with your life and be happy even if you are fat. Wear the nice clothes, go to all the social events. And hey, eat the biscuit if you really want to

OP posts:
Paq · 04/09/2022 11:06

@Bukhara that's awful and I'm furious that you went through that. But in your examples I think that misogyny is the driving force, not fatphobia. Men will yell anything at women - elite athletes with 8% body fat get disgusting things yelled at them. It's horrific.

Doingprettywellthanks · 04/09/2022 11:13

Tabbouleh · 04/09/2022 10:06

I wonder about that too. If I were to take the time to be offended by the overweight I would be offended all day.

There’s obviously concentrations of obese people because in Kent, where I am - yea there are overweight people but minority and obese people are not common. Same when I lived in London.

very affluent areas.

chutzpahchick · 04/09/2022 11:15

Vallmo47 · 04/09/2022 08:44

@chutzpahchick I guess what some are saying is that we should be happy whatever size we are and own it, regardless of reason for being the size we are. The problem with that is shown very clearly with the amount of emotion this thread has caused, however. People DO feel judged and they DO feel self conscious. Everyone has a story. If that’s not okay, to share things that upset you from time to time, fuck me, I won’t bother with people anymore. Where’s the compassion for others?? Bottomline is if you’re not happy with the size you are, it IS shit. The majority of people aren’t happy, slim or fat. Very often slim people are even harder on themselves than fat people. Anyway, rant over. I totally get where you’re coming from and you’re entitled to feel how you feel. :)

Yeah definitely in terms of individual judgement. It's terrible and so toxic. There are so many reasons why people may be overweight. Weight loss diets don't work too (overall in the long term), all the evidence shows that, our bodies fight so hard not to lose the weight. It's OK at the societal level to raise concerns - we DO need to change the environment. People and how they respond to food haven't changed over time, our environment has But also recognise just how hard it is for individuals for whom there may be a million and one reasons why they may be overweight or obese and it is not any kind of reflection of their character or personality.

Doingprettywellthanks · 04/09/2022 11:23

There are so many reasons why people may be overweight

i don’t think many GPs would agree with you there. “There are no many excuses” Yes

Doingprettywellthanks · 04/09/2022 11:23

So many

Doingprettywellthanks · 04/09/2022 11:25

@chutzpahchick I guess what some are saying is that we should be happy whatever size we are and own it,

even if that puts more burden on a National Health Service than any other contributory cause of I’ll health?

Tabbouleh · 04/09/2022 11:34

@Bukhara I am sorry that happened to you and that is, of course, terrible. I just think the OP's post is a bit over the top, generally speaking.

chutzpahchick · 04/09/2022 11:36

@Doingprettywellthanks
Hmm, interesting. So my underactive and currently undermedicated thyroid is an excuse then? A figment of my imagination? The correlation between being able to manage my weight and being properly medicated and balanced with m thyorid hormones spurious? I believe my endocrinologist would disagree with you. But what would she know? Clearly you know better having done a survey of GPs (who I hope would be far more empathetic and evidence-based than you).

Wouldloveanother · 04/09/2022 11:39

I genuinely cannot reconcile how few people in, for instance, the 1920s there were compared to now, given they presumably had similarish levels of thyroid problems/MH issues etc?

user29 · 04/09/2022 11:40

Come this winter when no one can afford food, us fatties will be the healthy ones !
Seriously I have never been fat shamed because i am a happy cnfident person, most of the time i forget i am fat

Doingprettywellthanks · 04/09/2022 11:42

chutzpahchick · 04/09/2022 11:36

@Doingprettywellthanks
Hmm, interesting. So my underactive and currently undermedicated thyroid is an excuse then? A figment of my imagination? The correlation between being able to manage my weight and being properly medicated and balanced with m thyorid hormones spurious? I believe my endocrinologist would disagree with you. But what would she know? Clearly you know better having done a survey of GPs (who I hope would be far more empathetic and evidence-based than you).

Absolutely clear on nhs website that if the correct doseage of levo thyroxine is prescribed - then there should be no weight gain as a result of an under active thyroid

Bukhara · 04/09/2022 11:42

Paq · 04/09/2022 11:06

@Bukhara that's awful and I'm furious that you went through that. But in your examples I think that misogyny is the driving force, not fatphobia. Men will yell anything at women - elite athletes with 8% body fat get disgusting things yelled at them. It's horrific.

But the nature of what was shouted has changed — I’m still a woman runner, and sure, I still get the odd misogynistic comment, but when I was fat, about 98% of the comments were about my body size. And it wasn’t only men. I had a few unpleasant encounters with groups of teenage girls that I remember.

Doingprettywellthanks · 04/09/2022 11:43

Levo thyroxine is a replica of the missing hormone. So if correctly prescribed - then weight gain is not due to the lack of hormone that slows the metabolism

user29 · 04/09/2022 11:43

even if that puts more burden on a National Health Service than any other contributory cause of I’ll health?

Last time i was in A&E, sports injuries seemed to be the heaviest burden!
Anorexics,Smokers and drug users are thin, are they healthy?

Sparklfairy · 04/09/2022 11:44

chutzpahchick · 04/09/2022 11:36

@Doingprettywellthanks
Hmm, interesting. So my underactive and currently undermedicated thyroid is an excuse then? A figment of my imagination? The correlation between being able to manage my weight and being properly medicated and balanced with m thyorid hormones spurious? I believe my endocrinologist would disagree with you. But what would she know? Clearly you know better having done a survey of GPs (who I hope would be far more empathetic and evidence-based than you).

Literally on every one of these threads one single poster comes on with a solitary health issue and makes it all about them as if they represent the entire reason why two thirds of this country are overweight.

Quincythequince · 04/09/2022 11:45

chutzpahchick · 04/09/2022 11:36

@Doingprettywellthanks
Hmm, interesting. So my underactive and currently undermedicated thyroid is an excuse then? A figment of my imagination? The correlation between being able to manage my weight and being properly medicated and balanced with m thyorid hormones spurious? I believe my endocrinologist would disagree with you. But what would she know? Clearly you know better having done a survey of GPs (who I hope would be far more empathetic and evidence-based than you).

This isn’t about you specifically chutz

You may have an under active thyroid, although with meds that should normalise unless there is something else going on.

But it’s not true that most fat people are fat because they have something wrong with them to begin with.

Obesiry is a chronic relapsing disease and hart to treat and is linked to many Co morbidities. But the cause and effect here stray with extra weight, then other conditions.

In many instances type two diabetes can be reversed by weight loss alone. Sleep apnoea, hypertension too. Osteoarthritis and fertility both improved.

There is a conversation around empowering oneself and effectively attempting to be healthier and lose weight rather than just grab 20 forms the biscuit tin (not your words btw, someone else’s from earlier…and who even does that?!)

Quincythequince · 04/09/2022 11:46

*hard
*start

Doingprettywellthanks · 04/09/2022 11:46

It is very common that someone on mumsnet who has successfully lost weight and kept it off is very honest about what was genuinely causing their weight gain but admit that at the time - they blamed a host of other reasons. As soon as they accepted it was diet and lack of movement - they were able to make the changes necessary to lose weight

Quincythequince · 04/09/2022 11:51

user29 · 04/09/2022 11:43

even if that puts more burden on a National Health Service than any other contributory cause of I’ll health?

Last time i was in A&E, sports injuries seemed to be the heaviest burden!
Anorexics,Smokers and drug users are thin, are they healthy?

Obesity admissions to A&E aren’t high. Why would they be?

Sports injuries are for obvious reasons.

And a basic health economic analysis would tell you that the costs associated with Cory of these as calculated over time, are not remotely comparable. But nice try!

Can’t believe you are trying to maintain that anorexia is a comparable issue in a country with 66% adults unhealthy weight and an increasing problem in kids

It’s an inappropriate strawman tbh.

And yes, smokers cost the NHS money too - what of it?

This thread is about Obesity and loving
ones fat self and ignoring all the naysayers!

How can anyone genuinely love their prospects in life if they are huge and young enough that this will only get worse (adults gain weight over time).

It’s a flippant, dismissive attitude to a very real problem.

And I’m not saying hate your body, but come one!

Lunar270 · 04/09/2022 11:52

user29 · 04/09/2022 11:40

Come this winter when no one can afford food, us fatties will be the healthy ones !
Seriously I have never been fat shamed because i am a happy cnfident person, most of the time i forget i am fat

Haha. I might need to put in a few layers now in preparation 😂

Good for you though and that's all that matters really (self confidence and contentment that is).

I'm pretty slim and like it that way but is pointless judging the relative impacts on the NHS. It's just another way of beating people up for their choices in life (unless there's a medical issue).

samthebordercollie · 04/09/2022 11:57

Last time i was in A&E, sports injuries seemed to be the heaviest burden!
Anorexics,Smokers and drug users are thin, are they healthy?

I do loads of sport and asked my GP about this last time I saw him with an injury: He said yes, injuries can cost a lot of money in the short term but the overall fitness that sports people in their life have means they cost an awful lot less over their entire lifespan (especially when older) than the obese, smokers, heavy drinkers etc:

PeloDramatic · 04/09/2022 11:58

samthebordercollie · 04/09/2022 11:57

Last time i was in A&E, sports injuries seemed to be the heaviest burden!
Anorexics,Smokers and drug users are thin, are they healthy?

I do loads of sport and asked my GP about this last time I saw him with an injury: He said yes, injuries can cost a lot of money in the short term but the overall fitness that sports people in their life have means they cost an awful lot less over their entire lifespan (especially when older) than the obese, smokers, heavy drinkers etc:

I probably cost a fortune because I'm fat AND do sports. But then I've also got chronic health conditions, and I know the drugs I'm on are roughly £750 for one month
But if I didn't have the drugs I couldn't exercise, even walking so..

Goosygandy · 04/09/2022 11:58

GetOffTheRoof · 04/09/2022 00:08

And if all the Mnetters who have been living a restricted life because of fear of judgement about their perfectly normal bodies pass that onto their kids, we will have an epidemic of mental health issues which surely outweighs the difficulties of obesity?

But I don't think anyone is saying having an eating disorder that leads you to see your body as being overweight when it's normal is healthy either. That doesn't mean it's okay for someone's health to be severely overweight and that there are no health implications. That's just denying reality.

I don't want to see people shamed for their weight in the street but I've also seen on these threads people complaining that their actual doctor is speaking to them about their weight and the possible health implications. That's their job, just like if someone eats too little, drinks too much, smokes or does any other activities that risk their health.

When diabetes alone cost the NHS 10% of its annual budget, it's an issue that affects us all.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 04/09/2022 11:59

samthebordercollie · 04/09/2022 11:57

Last time i was in A&E, sports injuries seemed to be the heaviest burden!
Anorexics,Smokers and drug users are thin, are they healthy?

I do loads of sport and asked my GP about this last time I saw him with an injury: He said yes, injuries can cost a lot of money in the short term but the overall fitness that sports people in their life have means they cost an awful lot less over their entire lifespan (especially when older) than the obese, smokers, heavy drinkers etc:

That makes complete sense.

Daisychainsandglitter · 04/09/2022 12:03

I'm a size 18 and I walk 7 miles a day, I've got a good job, great friends, I enjoy a good night out, I enjoy my food. I love my family very much and feel that life is there to be enjoyed. Therefore I have no qualms about doing things/spending money/eating nice food if it will bring me pleasure.
Granted there are times where I wish that I could wear a smaller size of clothes but overall I'm happy with my life and certainly don't hide away.
You only get one chance at life so best to enjoy yourself and be happy.