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DH has no time for our dog

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PokeInTheBum · 28/08/2022 09:39

A few years ago DH said he wanted a dog, a German shepherd. I said no as I didn’t want the hair or a large animal to have to look after. He kept on about wanting a dog and assured me that he’d be 100% responsible for it. I said if he was that desperate for a dog he could get a little one like a French bulldog. He reluctantly agreed and we got a frenchie puppy. At first he adored him and was with him all the time. He took him to a basic obedience 6 week course and would come home frustrated saying the dog wouldn’t do anything and he was a laughing stock at the class. He was working on stuff with him inbetween classes (daily) but would always come back furious from the class saying it was pointless. I started going with him for support but to be fair it was embarrassing, ours was the only dog that wasn’t progressing and we couldn’t get him to do anything other than “sit” and even that was only 50/50. Didn’t help that the instructor made jokes about it and drew everyone’s attention to it. At the end of the course everyone was presented with their certificates whilst we were “gently told” to book onto a repeat course.

DH decided against it and whilst he continued walking the dog etc it was obvious that he was losing interest. We couldn’t get him house trained, he was incredibly destructive and wrecked everything in sight. We had a behaviourist in as well as a trainer but neither have been any help.

Then 3 years ago DH told me he needed a proper dog and was buying a German shepherd puppy. I agreed because I saw how much it was getting him down not having this dog. He was going to all sorts of shows, displays and meet ups etc for 2 years prior.

we got the German shepherd. DH finally has the dog he wanted. It excelled at the basic obedience class and then went on to pass the advanced obedience class and all the kennel club awards. DH’s office is full of certificates and rosettes from him activities with the dog and to be fair he does 100% of the work with her.

Trouble is his tolerance for the frenchie is now rock bottom, he gets annoyed just hearing him wander around the house. He refuses to clean up its piss and shit saying he’s not “doing it anymore” with a 6 year old dog. To be honest I think he actively dislikes the dog.

I have taken on responsibility of the frenchie but the way DH makes it so obvious he doesn’t want him around upsets me. He’ll literally make the frenchie move off the sofa so the German shepherd can sit there.

We ended up arguing about it last night and he said it’s my fault as I pressured him to get a dog he didn’t want and if I’d just agreed to the shepherd in the first place none of this would have happened.

So, is it all my fault??

OP posts:
user1492809438 · 28/08/2022 11:01

DO NOT have children with this man. If he is like this with a dog, what will happen with a tantruming toddler and stroppy team. What an apology for a decent human being.

Quincythequince · 28/08/2022 11:01

Love it for what it can give you as a pet, rathe than hate it for what it can’t

(last post should’ve said)

CG1991 · 28/08/2022 11:02

Petulent.
You need to re home the dog.
Having volunteered for a rescue for years, it’s tiresome seeing owners purchase new dogs as though they are toys and display such frustration when said dog doesn’t live up to expectations.
What happens if the GS ‘embarrasses’ him or gets poorly etc.
Let someone with the appropriate experience, time, patience and love take on the frenchie.
The Frenchie sounds nervous.

Cynderella · 28/08/2022 11:02

Get a professional dog trainer in - you're in a toxic canine world on your own.

OhmygodDont · 28/08/2022 11:03

His dog is also no more a penis extension than that of a horse owner who competes in competitions either. To his gsd he sounds like an amazing owner and trainer who’s proud of his dog and actually actively works it in competitions to its abilities which is good for dogs to be challenging mentally and physically not just be potatoes walked twice a day.

Porcupineintherough · 28/08/2022 11:03

@KettrickenSmiled what a bunch of bullshit. Both dogs are well cared for and loved by at least one of their owners, so what's the problem here? Frenchies are overbred to the point where many are as thick as mince and basically incapable of learning. Why anyone would want to encourage that by owning one is a mystery but the OP is doing her best by it.

mam0918 · 28/08/2022 11:03

Me and DH have this disagreement.

He wants a lab, collie or alsation (I do love those breeds but have had them before and know we dont have time to care for their energetic needs, also most died due to hip issues which are common).

I did a test a rescue put together that pairs suitible breeds with the correct family enviroment and it said a british bulldog would fit out lifestyle, I never even considered one before but having met a few now it seems correct (low energy, easy going, usually good with kids dog that doesnt require constant stimulation).

DH HATES the idea of a lazy drooling bulldog, only wants the pretty big dogs like his friends have... so in the end we compromised and got a cat lol.

RinskeD · 28/08/2022 11:03

Your DH's behaviour is not helping the little dog and will make him stressed and unhappy. For that reason get in touch with a breed group and try to find him a home.
French bulldogs should never be bred in my opinion. Their poor little bodies have so many physical problems because of the way they are bred. I know rather a lot of them and suspect that it's also affected them mentally. Seem to get a lot of eye problems too, maybe that's just the ones I know. Maybe this little soul can't even see the treats being thrown at it.
Whatever - do the right thing by this dog. If you really love him get him out of this toxic environment.
I could not live with a person who treated an animal like this, but I would certainly remove the animal from the situation.

Quincythequince · 28/08/2022 11:03

Loopyloopy · 28/08/2022 10:59

Don't be ridiculous. It's very common among people that put a lot of work into competing with animals to be proud of the work that the animal does.

Not the way the OP has described it.

This man is not an animal lover and shouldn’t have a pet.

CaptainFlubby · 28/08/2022 11:03

Quincythequince · 28/08/2022 11:01

Are people aware of the Dog rehoming crisis here in the UK

Its insane to do this. Just be better with the dog. Be kinder. Accept that it’s not clever and live it for what it will give yo it’s a pet, rathe than what it can’t.

And the dog clearly has been toilet trained to an extent. Enough at least to know the dining room is his place. Retrain him. Work very closely with him and reward, reward, reward.

The issue here is that the DH is clearly not treating the dog well. He gets annoyed just hearing it walking. That isn’t someone I would trust with this dog. Or any dog to be honest.

What happens if the GS gets sick? Or doesn’t win a rosette? Does it get discarded and neglected just like the Frenchie?

I would think in this situation, trying to find a safe loving home for the Frenchie is better than leaving it with the OP and her DH.

KettrickenSmiled · 28/08/2022 11:03

PokeInTheBum · 28/08/2022 10:28

I let the frenchie out every 2 hours for a wee. I’ve sat with him in the garden for half an hour and eventually brought him in just for him to wander off and piss up the wall.

Whenever he does wee or poo outside I obviously treat him for doing so but he’ll still go off and shit in the house 5 minutes later.

Believe me I have tried EVERYTHING. I’m the one cleaning it up so obviously it’s in my interest to train him. I’ve had dogs before and have always managed to housetrain them as puppies, with this one I just can’t get through to him.

As the methods you've been using for years have not worked for you or Frenchie, stop doing what you are doing & start getting smart.

Spend time reading about & fully understanding Tom & Lauren's psychology.
absolute-dogs.com/pages/about
www.facebook.com/absolutedogs

In your case, it would even be worthwhile to book a week's leave & travel to their location for an intensive course. Costly - but less so than replacing whole floors & dining tables ...

PokeInTheBum · 28/08/2022 11:04

OhmygodDont · 28/08/2022 10:57

The mistake was making him or anyone get a breed of dog which isn’t the one they have researched and see as the one that fits. A dog isn’t just a dog each breed has different good and bad points, clearly him wanting a gsd was the right dog the right fit.

so yes you did mess up by saying not your dog but any small dog. he shouldn’t be mean to it though but after six years of an untrainable dog pissing on my floors I’d be raging inside at least and likely not want to spend much time with the dog.

what did you try for training or at least house training? Did you restrict access to rooms or crate train? As well as the obvious outside 30 minutes after every meal and drink and staying out till they went. If you used puppy pads did you move some soiled ones outside to show that’s where the toilet is?

the dog does sound rather overly stupid even for its breed have you had it vet checked for issues further than Utis like it may have some kind of brain issues.

Yea we tried all that.

We initially tried training him the way we’ve always housetrained and that didn’t work so we tried crate training - he would rip up his bed and then piss and shit on it and would quite happily lay in it. We had to bath him constantly. We tried the puppy pads and he’d just rip them up and then pee on the floor. When he did manage to pee on a pad we moved it outside to try and make the connection but he’d just try and rip it up. We tried restraining him to the kitchen when we were not in but he managed to jump up onto the kitchen side and couldn’t get down and would be stuck there until we got home (I had a camera on him and would often have to leave work and rush home to rescue him), he’d rip the bin to pieces and even ate a hole into the kitchen door.

We not restrain him to the dining room where there isn’t any danger for him to get into. Just need to wash his bed daily as he pisses on it and then sleeps on it.

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DangerNoodles · 28/08/2022 11:07

Why a Frenchie? I'm sorry but it is a bit like ordering a GSD off Wish.

When did you take over responsibility for the Frenchie? It sounds like until recently he has tried to hold up his end of the deal, he was the one to take the dog to obedience classes, he's been the one to take it to the vets etc. Tbh a dog passing and shitting in the house for 6 years would test anybody's patience, especially if the dog was a compromise in the first place.

CG1991 · 28/08/2022 11:07

I agree and understand the points about rescue centres being full but (rightly or wrongly), this breed is very much sought after.

A dog is a commitment and frankly it doesn’t sound like the Frenchie is being treat kindly.

Porcupineintherough · 28/08/2022 11:07

@CG1991 I think most people have an expectation that their dog will be housetrained at some point and will respond to basic commands, that's pretty standard. You think rehoning this dog will solve everything but it has a pretty good home and it's quite possible that it's IQ is so low it will never be trainable. This does happen.

bernfinn89 · 28/08/2022 11:09

op have you tried crate training the frenchie.

Flopisfatteningbingforchristmas · 28/08/2022 11:09

Why have you not tried another course or a behaviour specialist? Six years is a long time to have issues and not tried to change them.

CG1991 · 28/08/2022 11:10

Porcupineintherough · 28/08/2022 11:07

@CG1991 I think most people have an expectation that their dog will be housetrained at some point and will respond to basic commands, that's pretty standard. You think rehoning this dog will solve everything but it has a pretty good home and it's quite possible that it's IQ is so low it will never be trainable. This does happen.

@Porcupineintherough
House training is a standard expectation but I’d bet my bottom dollar that the Frenchie would come on leaps and bounds in a settled home where he/she isn’t expected to move for the GS and is met with love.
Predominantly, I have experience with spaniels but I think most dogs change significantly in the right home environment and this has been going on for years so I don’t agree.

PokeInTheBum · 28/08/2022 11:10

bernfinn89 · 28/08/2022 11:09

op have you tried crate training the frenchie.

Yes it was a disaster. He’d just rip up his bed, piss and shit on the pieces and then sleep in it. We had to constantly bath him.

OP posts:
bernfinn89 · 28/08/2022 11:11

sorry just seen u did try the crate. missed that comment

Nanny0gg · 28/08/2022 11:12

PokeInTheBum · 28/08/2022 10:15

Actually he has managed to catch treats in the past. It’s rare but it has happened.

Ever thought of getting a proper dog trainer/behaviour specialist to help?

Or is it just going to have a miserable existence? (Dogs know when someone doesn't like them)

Lilgamesh2 · 28/08/2022 11:12

I'm so surprised people are blaming the OP. Then again MN is full of women who are used to putting up with crap from men.

She didn't want any dogs, her DP did! She's well within her rights to say they could only get one if it was a short haired breed. That was actually a very kind comprise of her. As the dog lover the DP should have figured out what type of dog would suit or better yet not bullied the OP into getting a dog at all.

DP then messed up on the training and has proceeded to blame the dog or the OP for his failing. He then pushed the OP into agreeing to a GS knowing the OP didn't want one. He seems very entitled. Now to top it all off he's stopped looking after his Frenchie and is expecting the OP to clear up after his dog.

He sounds like a brat.

In your place OP I'd refuse to look after frenchie. Just stop cold turkey. Tell him you've had enough of his bullshit he either needs to train the dog or rehome it. Then I'd tell him he's an embarrassment for abdicating his responsibility and for blaming you for his fuck up. I'd tell him I'm ashamed to talk about his behaviour to my friends because I can't believe I've ended up in a long term relationship with a spoilt teenager and who the hell does he think he is treating you like a skivvy. Every time he tries to interject Id reinforce "you aren't a prince, own your mistakes. Your behavior is disgusting. Your parents raised you badly. How can you not see how pathetic your behavior is." Etc etc etc.

Good luck anyway. He sounds dreadful.

TwoMonthsOff · 28/08/2022 11:13

@Quincythequince
i agree with you, I hate people mocking animals, it’s bullying in a way

Sally090807 · 28/08/2022 11:13

I have a 9 month old frenchie and he’s absolutely adorable. He sits on command, give you his paw when asked, I can put some fresh chicken in front of him in his bowl and he will sit until I tell him it’s ok to eat it. I can leave him alone in the lounge and kitchen and he’s never chewed or destroyed anything and he’s never been to training classes. Maybe I’ve been lucky but not all frenchies are hard to train and they make lovely little pets.

PokeInTheBum · 28/08/2022 11:13

Flopisfatteningbingforchristmas · 28/08/2022 11:09

Why have you not tried another course or a behaviour specialist? Six years is a long time to have issues and not tried to change them.

We spent thousands on 2 trainers (one was a specialist at the other side of the country) and a behaviourist. All 3 said i was fighting a losing battle, he was never going to grasp commands and the house training would possibly improve but would always be hit and miss. I can’t afford to throw more money at him.

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