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Huge row with partner, want to leave

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sameshitdifferentdayffs · 25/08/2022 09:14

Firstly, sorry this is long.

Hoping I don’t regret posting this as my mental health is really poor at the moment and I’m not sure I’m robust enough for it, but I’m really struggling to see whether/ if I am in the wrong here, so wanted to post.

The background context is I’ve had a really long, slow recovery from severe PND over the past 16 months and still not 100% at times (PTSD, flashbacks to the birth, thoughts of being a terrible mother and better off dead, etc), and also recent family bereavement which I have not yet processed or come to terms with.

A recent argument with DP was as follows, I'm just looking for outside opinions :

I get up at 6am every morning to shower, sort my lunch, and sort my breakfast. DP needs less time than I do to get ready, his commute is significantly shorter, and he doesn’t do the nursery drop offs, so our agreement is that DP will make sure DD (16 months) is up and dressed by 6.30am_ latest as then, when I am ready, I can take over and sort her breakfast out before taking her to nursery (I do all drop offs and pick ups on way to work). I need DD to be ready to leave the house by 7.10am_ otherwise it impacts my morning and I’m late for work. DP knows this, we’ve had so many conversations about the same thing. He knows that I need her up and ready by 6.30am otherwise it makes me late.

On this particular morning I showered, dressed, had my breakfast, made my lunch etc between 6-6.30_ (as I usually do), on the understanding that DP would get DD up and dressed in time for me to take over at 6.30am_. At 6.35am_ he was still lying in bed and DD still in her cot. I went in and said “please can you get her up now, otherwise I’m going to be late”. He said yes, so I went back downstairs to finish off what I was doing. He then proceeded to go into the bathroom. I had no idea how long he was going to be and it was now approaching 6.40am_, so I went upstairs to wake DD and started to get her ready myself. He then emerges from the bathroom as I’m dressing her, saying grumpily “ I was just about to do that”. I replied “It’s fine I had to do it otherwise I’m going to be late”. He went downstairs. I followed – hurriedly as I’m now behind – and put DD in her highchair for breakfast. DP was in the kitchen. I said nothing to him, I was just focussed on getting DD sorted so I could get to work on time. I deliberately said nothing because I didn’t have the head space or emotional energy for an argument. He looked at me and said snarkily, “will you just calm down”.

Trying to remain as calm as possible, I said “Please don’t tell me to calm down. I am rushing because I am going to be late. If you helped me, I wouldn’t be stressed and rushing”. He still offered no help, and just snapped back “well I was going to get her dressed but you took over”. I replied “I don’t want to argue, I just want to get her ready as quickly as possible so I’m not late. I’ve said before that she needs to be up by 6.30 so I can get out of the house on time. She wasn’t up and it was 6.40 – so I needed to get her up myself.”

Anyway he went into a huge strop and starting muttering under his breath about how I’m “the reason this relationship is failing” and I need to “take a look at myself”. He then starts doing dramatic cuddles and goodbye kisses with DD in her highchair while I stand sobbing in the kitchen saying “I really didn’t need this argument this morning, I just wanted to get her ready. Why have you caused this argument?” He then started saying she didn’t need to be up at 6.30m and he was letting her “have a lie in”. I’ve told him time and time again that this doesn’t work because I need to be out of the house on time with her! He has the luxury of leaving the house without having to think of dropping a child off – this doesn’t impact his working day or commute in any way at all. It impacts mine. I’ve told him this so many times and he’s previously agreed to make sure she’s up on time to make my morning run more smoothly considering I have an hour commute plus the drop off, whereas he does not. If DD isn’t ready at 7.10am, he will just leave the house regardless – he won’t hang around to help me. So it doesn’t affect his morning at all. I’ll be the one stuck at home late for work, sorting her out. Yet it’s like those many conversations just never happened because he’s decided to “let her lie in”. At that point he just left for work and refused to apologise for his snarky "calm down" comment which only inflamed everything instead of helping.

I am seriously re-evaluating the relationship and I genuinely want to leave him. I have cried so much over the whole thing. I’m in a bad place mentally. All I wanted to do was get my daughter ready on time because as the person who does the drop offs before work and with an hour’s commute each way, it really impacts my day if she is not up and ready on time. He knows this. Then he tells me to “calm down” when I’m rushing because he hasn’t got her up on time. Instead of asking what he can do to help, for example.

I need some perspective here. I’m ready to walk because I’m so done.

OP posts:
Remagirl · 25/08/2022 12:35

It's time he did drop offs and you collect. Would that work?

DeclineandFall · 25/08/2022 12:35

He's training you. Just think - wouldn't it be easier if you did it all yourself and didn't have to rely on him? Wouldn't there be less stress as he's stringing it all out and then starting arguments?

I agree with this. Its what my DH did/does. Cause a lot of fuss and anger when he's in the wrong or late or doesn't want to do something and suddenly its all my fault - that I'm nagging or micromanaging or he was just about to do it.
I ended up just doing stuff because I couldn't stand the stress of the argument. He escalates things to get his own way. It is conditioning. I wish I'd seen it a lot sooner. It just causes resentment in the long run.

SunnyD44 · 25/08/2022 12:36

Forgot about the morning situation for a second as that can probably be resolved.

What is the relationship like after work and on weekends?

You sound very stressed and he’s obviously unhappy too and has acknowledged that the relationship is failing.

Regarding the morning - you are choosing to wake her up early so she gets two breakfasts.

It would be better for everyone including her , if you and DH let her sleep in whilst you’re both getting ready and then just before you need to leave wake her up and get her changed (you could take in turns doing this) and head straight out of the door.
You could give her a snack before you leave and some milk in the car to see her through until her breakfast time if you wanted to.

SunnyD44 · 25/08/2022 12:38

I have to make up the time if I start later, and I have no leeway for this as I need to get to nursery on time for pick up.

It would make sense if you do the drops offs (maybe even start later) and he does pick ups - unless he works very long hours.

sameshitdifferentdayffs · 25/08/2022 12:38

After work and on weekends it's usually more of the same shit. He also works a lot of weekends so we hardly see each other anyway.

OP posts:
sameshitdifferentdayffs · 25/08/2022 12:39

SunnyD44 · 25/08/2022 12:38

I have to make up the time if I start later, and I have no leeway for this as I need to get to nursery on time for pick up.

It would make sense if you do the drops offs (maybe even start later) and he does pick ups - unless he works very long hours.

He either finishes at 6pm, 7.30pm, or 9pm. None of these will allow him to do pick up as nursery closes at 5.30pm

OP posts:
sameshitdifferentdayffs · 25/08/2022 12:40

Elmore · 25/08/2022 12:26

The important question here is who brings home more money?

I earn 50k, he earns 32k.
But he works a lot of overtime and in practice can take home more than my basic monthly salary with his overtime. So on paper; I earn more. In practice, he does.

OP posts:
MostlyHappyMummy · 25/08/2022 12:41

Why does he not do nursery pick ups?

TheEponymousGrub · 25/08/2022 12:42

OP
Instead of breakfast at home, your daughter could eat shreddies or mini-shredded wheats on the way to nursery, in a snacking cup like this: www.amazon.co.uk/Munchkin-Piece-Snack-Catcher-Green/dp/B01GKZNWTO?th=1
It would save time in the house and make the journey shorter for her.

I know it doesn't address the larger problem... I'm sorry he's so horrible.

Elmore · 25/08/2022 12:42

sameshitdifferentdayffs · 25/08/2022 12:40

I earn 50k, he earns 32k.
But he works a lot of overtime and in practice can take home more than my basic monthly salary with his overtime. So on paper; I earn more. In practice, he does.

Sounds like you’re pretty matched then. He should be doing 50% really.

Meraas · 25/08/2022 12:44

sameshitdifferentdayffs · 25/08/2022 12:25

If he fumes he walks out and refuses to speak to me for his knows how long. Ignores calls and texts and gives no indication of when he might be back. It sends my anxiety sky high. I want to avoid him doing this to me.

Refusing to speak to you or answering texts is stonewalling / silent treatment is classic tactic when it comes to emotional abuse.

He knows exactly what he does to you and he uses it to control you and to get you back in line.

OP, the more you post the more miserable it all sounds. What does he add to your life?

He gets to pretend to the world that he is a loving partner and father, at your expense. Why let him get away with it?

MyNameIsAngelicaSchuyler · 25/08/2022 12:44

He sounds like a bully. Do you love him? Does her love you?

Why do you care if he is pissed off with you?

I’d honestly just leave at 7am, who gives a flying one If he’s annoyed. he has no respect for you!

where are your family and are they supportive of you?

Meraas · 25/08/2022 12:45

Elmore · 25/08/2022 12:42

Sounds like you’re pretty matched then. He should be doing 50% really.

Are you seriously suggesting the person with the lower paying job should do more of the childcare/housework?

MostlyHappyMummy · 25/08/2022 12:45

Sorry missed your post stating husbands finish times

What kind of job requires 5 x 12+ hour shifts and then more work at weekend?

Itwasntright · 25/08/2022 12:47

sameshitdifferentdayffs · 25/08/2022 12:39

He either finishes at 6pm, 7.30pm, or 9pm. None of these will allow him to do pick up as nursery closes at 5.30pm

How very convenient.

JammyThing · 25/08/2022 12:48

In my experience single parenting is a tough gig. But it's not as tough as being let down, messed around, and constantly made to feel unreasonable and undervalued - while you do all the work yourself anyway.

Hugs, OP. You're worth more than this shit.

mumofbun · 25/08/2022 12:48

Meraas · 25/08/2022 12:44

Refusing to speak to you or answering texts is stonewalling / silent treatment is classic tactic when it comes to emotional abuse.

He knows exactly what he does to you and he uses it to control you and to get you back in line.

OP, the more you post the more miserable it all sounds. What does he add to your life?

He gets to pretend to the world that he is a loving partner and father, at your expense. Why let him get away with it?

Completely agree, the more info the more miserable it sounds 😪

JustLyra · 25/08/2022 12:48

To be honest from everything you’ve said I’m wondering how much of your anxiety is down to living with an abusive partner.

living on eggshells to prevent him giving you the silent treatment is not going to be helping you at all.

Its very common for abuse to begin, or escalate, when you’re pregnant or when you’ve a small baby.

MostlyHappyMummy · 25/08/2022 12:49

I think your PND is a red herring here
you have a selfish and unsupportive partner
that is causing your current anxieties
I think it's very likely that if you split up your life would be easier and not harder
whereas it would be the opposite for him

bringbackveronicamars · 25/08/2022 12:52

Can you find a child provider near his job?

brookstar · 25/08/2022 12:52

Elmore · 25/08/2022 12:26

The important question here is who brings home more money?

Why is that important?

sameshitdifferentdayffs · 25/08/2022 12:52

Refusing to speak to you or answering texts is stonewalling / silent treatment is classic tactic when it comes to emotional abuse.

He does it all the time.

Another one he does is I'll say "can I talk to you please about what just happened?" and he will either carry on what he is doing like loading the dishwasher / sorting DD and half listen, and not even look at me, or say "no" when I ask to talk. Or just walk out. Or stare into space then roll his eyes. If I'm crying he's worse.

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DitzyBluebells · 25/08/2022 12:53

All these people offering suggestions of how to sort the situation out without factoring in that he's an arse. There wouldn't be a situation in the first place if he weren't an arse!

He speaks to you like you're dirt, has no respect for you, is sabotaging your job, is refusing to share the parenting if his own child. I'm not surprised you want to leave him OP.

Someone on page one said the problem is he doesn't communicate or cooperate. This isn't something for the OP to sort out. Who wants to be in a relationship with someone who can't do those basic things?

SunnyD44 · 25/08/2022 12:53

After work and on weekends it's usually more of the same shit. He also works a lot of weekends so we hardly see each other anyway.

Then it sounds like the relationship is done and you’re both just wasting time because it’s inevitably going to end one day.

I think you both know it’s over.

Is the house rented or mortgaged?

Honestly I’d probably talk to him about it tonight and decide together what’s the best way to split.

Crikeyalmighty · 25/08/2022 12:54

An honest question OP- could you find something similar that was 3 days a week or a jobshare? because with the reduction in tax and 2 days less at nursery (and some time with your little one) and no commute, I doubt you would be that much worse off . If this is the main issue rather than the fact he's a bit of an arse generally it might be worth considering .