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To ask for the tangible benefits to you from Brexit, whichever way you voted

343 replies

Bunnyfuller · 22/08/2022 20:35

I genuinely want to know, what’s improved? Specific to you/your family?

is Brexit as it is what you thought it would be, or if you voted Remain, has it been more positive than you expected?

anyone calling it ‘goady thread’ is possibly saying Brexit isn’t going that well?

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Underanothersky · 23/08/2022 00:41

My partner got a 4% pay rise because a lot of workers had been Eastern European. I still think brexit is a shitshow. I voted remain then and I would again

SaSamhradh · 23/08/2022 00:43

@Clavinova I think all those links are old.
www.bbc.com/news/business-61729892

I stopped buying from Kettlewell. Horror stories on duty charges have stopped me clicking the buy button a few times on Amazon. I prefer to shop local anyway, so I'll cope.

For the poster who was happy to see the back of the Common Ag Policy. I can't imagine much ££ to replace it, so I doubt many farmers will be happy with the 'ability' to replace it with ...nothing/ almost nothing.

Wincher · 23/08/2022 00:49

The one benefit I know of is that VAT on ebooks was removed. It used to be we had all VAT rules aligned with the EU but now we can set our own so the anomaly of VAT being charged on ebooks but not paper books was corrected.

That's about it.

cstaff · 23/08/2022 01:02

@Florenz
While you are slagging off people's negative comments on here about brexit and how it has negatively affected their lives you are not putting forward anything positive yourself. Care to add anything.

I am looking on here from Ireland and obviously it wasn't in our interest for brexit to happen but reading all these comments from people more directly affected is actually quite sad.

GordonMcgregor · 23/08/2022 01:06

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MintJulia · 23/08/2022 01:16

Looking at the economy as a whole, the obvious change is that there are now more vacancies than there are people claiming unemployment benefit. Skills shortages means employees have more power. Work from home is more likely to continue if companies want to keep their staff. Companies are having to pay more to recruit the right staff.

Good for employees and the environment (less commuting), not so good for companies.

QuestionableMouse · 23/08/2022 01:30

Well the NHS is doing brilliantly with all that extra mon... On shit, wait... No it isn't.

Travel is fine thou... Oh, nope. Wrong about that too.

At least UK businesses are doing well... Ah fuck it, nope.

Baoing · 23/08/2022 01:32

The vote was a long time ago, Brexit is in the history books at this point. It's a bad look for Remainers to still be bleating about "their freedoms being taken away" and "idiotic people who didn't understand what they were voting for". Everyone else has moved on

Who is "everyone"? Those farsighted political and economic geniuses who voted for the self-inflicted wound that is Brexit?

It's odd that you're so intolerant of Remainers still being utterly pissed off at having their lives and horizons made smaller and darker by those same geniuses, when Brexiteers obviously harboured the terrible injustice of EU membership for decades.

And otherwise, when Remainers tell Brexiteers to fuck off, it's possibly because they have seen beloved friends and family members leave the country because of Fucking Brexit. They are not just going to 'move on' from that.

Only a stone-cold, Brexit-voting moron would forget that people have suffered immensely and personally because of Brexit, wouldn't they?

Still too scared to tell everyone the benefits? The view from the sunny uplands?

Baoing · 23/08/2022 01:41

Our country is no longer a free for all for any poverty stricken eastern european who wants a "better life" at our expense

To paraphrase the Trump voter idiom: not everyone who voted for Brexit was a racist, bigoted moron, but all the racist, bigoted morons voted for Brexit.

Baoing · 23/08/2022 01:58

The vote was a long time ago, Brexit is in the history books at this point

While you're at it...how did the whole Northern Ireland thing work out then? Sorted?

You seem to be completely ignorant of so much. It's not just Remainers 'bleating.' It's lives, businesses, families...in some cases, more or less everything.

How can anyone be so dense over something profoundly far-reaching, and then complain about being called stupid?

FreezyFreezy · 23/08/2022 01:58

With the cost of living having sky-rocketed and the availability of a range of food having plummeted, my waist has got smaller...

sobeyondthehills · 23/08/2022 02:02

i finally got my arse in gear and got duel nationality

TheDogsMother · 23/08/2022 02:02

Florenz · 23/08/2022 00:03

What is the point of this thread? An outpouring of hate aimed at Brexiters? Why would anyone want to post their positives about Brexit when it's going to be torn to bits by bitter remainers who still haven't got over the fact that for once in their lives, they didn't get their own way?

The vote was a long time ago, Brexit is in the history books at this point. It's a bad look for Remainers to still be bleating about "their freedoms being taken away" and "idiotic people who didn't understand what they were voting for". Everyone else has moved on.

Not at all. We are just genuinely interested in the benefits so far. What do you think they are ?

calmlakes · 23/08/2022 02:08

Well it gave my family the push to move overseas.
We have a lovely life now so while I don't think it was worth it for the UK it did help push us into an interesting and positive experience.

VeniVidiWeeWee · 23/08/2022 02:10

TheDogsMother · 23/08/2022 02:02

Not at all. We are just genuinely interested in the benefits so far. What do you think they are ?

We get to see Remoaners frothing at the mouth. That's always amusing.

ilovesooty · 23/08/2022 02:14

VeniVidiWeeWee · 23/08/2022 02:10

We get to see Remoaners frothing at the mouth. That's always amusing.

Remoaners.

How juvenile that phrase is.

EveSix · 23/08/2022 02:15

Benefit a) any debate on whether or not to explore an EU referendum in my home country has all but evaporated. People were watching with interest at the time of our UK referendum, but have since concluded that they're not even remotely interested in leaving. They pity us and think we've been manipulated and played.

Benefit b) I think it has dampened the hubris of the Little Englanders and given people a more realistic sense of Britain in the world, and a greater sense of humility in the face of it's vulnerability and interdependence on global partners.

DdraigGoch · 23/08/2022 02:26

A fruit farm near me had to let acres rot this year. No EU pickers and no British people want the work.

What conditions was he offering? A lot of these jobs were very exploitative, paying minimum wage and then docking rent for living in barracks on the farm.

Frequency · 23/08/2022 02:40

There is a reason British people don't want to fruit pick and it's not because they're lazy, contrary to popular belief. Most fruit farms are miles away from local towns with poor public transport links meaning you have to live there which is not suitable for parents or people with pets or other jobs. Otherwise, it's a long commute by car with fuel costing more and more each day for NMW.

It's seasonal work so it's not worth relocating for and if you're on the old tax credits system taking up seasonal work is virtually impossible. UC was supposed to make this easier but I have no experience of how this works in practice. Given their zealous sanctioning of people for minor infractions I can understand why people wouldn't be willing to rock the boat for a few week's work on NMW or less.

Migrant workers would come here especially for fruit picking, live on the farm and then take the money back home where it was worth more.

DdraigGoch · 23/08/2022 02:48

MnPrem · 22/08/2022 23:14

I don’t pay any roaming charges in Europe? O2 - just use as at home Twocats. Might just be your package.

I also rather nicely got a much smaller queue at all passports than the EU lane - AND a stamp. All i need is a new blue passport now…

I don't pay roaming charges in the EU either - I'm with Virgin Mobile.

Fat lot of good it is when both my last holiday was, and my next one will be in non-EU states, though I can at least surf while passing through EU states on the train there.

Thesefeetaremadeforwalking · 23/08/2022 03:19

"Our country is no longer a free for all for any poverty stricken eastern european who wants a "better life" at our expense"

Agree wholeheartedly.

It's also stopped the Common Fisheries Policy allowing EU vessels to plunder our North Sea Fishing stocks. (Whether they will ever recover is another discussion.)

That's why the East Coast from the Tyne to the Wash had some of the biggest Leave vote.

Thesefeetaremadeforwalking · 23/08/2022 03:37

@DdraigGoch
"A fruit farm near me had to let acres rot this year. No EU pickers and no British people want the work.
What conditions was he offering? A lot of these jobs were very exploitative, paying minimum wage and then docking rent for living in barracks on the farm."

You nailed it.

Where I used to live these male EU workers were crammed into caravans ( 6 in a 4 berth for example) on a field with no access to proper facilities.
At night and weekends they had nothing to do so they wandered around the local town getting drunk, urinating in peoples' gardens, getting into knife fights, and terrorising women and the elderly.
They seemed determined to turn market towns into the Eastern European
$£it£ole$ they came from.

Some even managed to blow themselves up making 'hooch' as a sideline. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-18154900

Another reason why the East of England had such a huge turnout for Leave.

Pilipalapal · 23/08/2022 03:48

I’m another in the ‘it’s forced me to emigrate and that’s turned out to be a good thing’ position.

MarshaMelrose · 23/08/2022 04:01

Skills shortages means employees have more power.

We send so many kids to university but we don't have enough skilled people. Maybe a good effect of Brexit will be getting our education system sorted so that we actually start to give proper training rather than getting young people to run up thousands of debt on courses that often leave them with few job prospects.

WanderingFruitWonderer · 23/08/2022 04:15

I voted Remain. However, I was not a hardcore remainer. I'm very left-wing, and a huge admirer of the late and wonderful Tony Benn.
I'm extremely fortunate in that I'm entitled to an Irish passport, which I'll apply for after my current British one expires. That mitigates any personal negative effects for me.
There has been one positive - I'm self-employed, but sometimes have to get short-term casual work in between to make ends meet. It used to be hard where I live, now it's easy. I picked fruit on a farm for a few weeks in June and July, and they paid above the minimum wage, which would have been unheard of before. It has to be acknowledged that there has been a benefit to many lower paid British workers.
So overall, Brexit has not been as bad as I feared (nothing like) for me personally. I recognise it's been terrible for some.
I would love it if house prices and rents went down. They said that might happen. But sadly, they seem to have gone the other way, though I don't think that's due to Brexit?