To ask for the tangible benefits to you from Brexit, whichever way you voted

[Bunnyfuller]

I genuinely want to know, what’s improved? Specific to you/your family?

is Brexit as it is what you thought it would be, or if you voted Remain, has it been more positive than you expected?

anyone calling it ‘goady thread’ is possibly saying Brexit isn’t going that well?

Exactly this.

My life hasn't altered either way. If it was that important they wouldn't have let a bunch of plebs vote for it.

So nice to see the nasty xenophobes coming on here to froth with joy. How many of you don't have any foreign ancestors, huh?

I know from watching the likes of Priti et al it only takes one generation to "forget" the fact that this country gave your family somewhere to live.

I see this kind of thing all the time and have never had a single issue. I don't understand if you're lying (probably) and dramatising a fair bit. Don't get me wrong sometimes I can't get the exact lettuce I want because I shop at 8pm and they've all been sold but its no different to how its ever been from my personal experience.

Fishing is going so well, isn't it.

The vote was a long time ago, Brexit is in the history books at this point. It's a bad look for Remainers to still be bleating about "their freedoms being taken away" and "idiotic people who didn't understand what they were voting for". Everyone else has moved on

We get to see Remoaners frothing at the mouth. That's always amusing.

Not sure if this is just a Mumsnet thing or not but I find it depressing that this type of non-answer is still the most prevalent "leaver" answer to any question. "We won, we're amused by other people being upset, move on" and despite being invited to explain the benefits to them they won't (or can't ) because there's "no point".

it finally pushed me into getting citizenship of the EU country where I've lived for most of my life, and therefore i was able to vote in the General election.
That felt good after years of paying tax but not being able to take part.

It's not just a Mumsnet thing. Some people are defensive and can only converse on a very shallow level.

Well it made me get my finger out and get my Irish passport and renew my ds's. I also now say I'm Northern Irish or Irish if asked. Other than that, no benefits at all and I believe this shitshow will get worse.

You've been lucky then. I had three consecutive shopping trips where I failed to get a cucumber in Sainsbury's. They haven't had any plain flour for about a month and a very reduced range of own brand breakfast cereal. I haven't been searching elsewhere for these things (although I did pick up some flour in Aldi) because I shop once a week and I haven't suffered from the lack of them but there are problems in supply. Whether it's due to a shortage of the product, the packaging or delivery issues I don't know but there are plenty of gaps on the supermarket shelves where I am.

You need to send goods to the EU witt the incoterm DAP, then it's in the receiver to pay the import charges etc if there are any.

that's fine if you have customers. If people are thinking "meh, I'll order inside the CU instead" then DAP isn't any help. You would need to have a very good niche product for that to work.

Those who were sick of he poverty stricken East Europeans - well, fine. They have left/are leaving. Now you have a deal for visas from the Philippines and India (soon to be followed by Pakistan i guess) so that means at least you will be able to "see" who they are. (except you won't and that was hyperbole so don't jump on me)

Fishing - no. The large fishing fleets, owned by foreign companies, loved Brexit i guess. Small independent fishing boats? I don't think they are so keen now. see also the shellfish industry.

Fruit picking? as i always say on these threads. If the price of labour is right, the farmer will get the labour. I would hate to see the cost of soft fruit if the Living Wage had to be paid. (but i still don't understand why students don't do these jobs as they used to. All on a gap year to peru? or working full time elsewhere to build up funds to reduce their loans?)

In theory the price of care home workers, nurses etc should have gone up due to Brexit. That's why the unions were generally in favour. So what is stopping that? We all know the answer to that: the billionaire owners of everything. Brexit benefitted them just fine.

Our country is no longer a free for all for any poverty stricken eastern european who wants a "better life" at our expense

Instead fruit n veg rots in fields and we have to import limited labour from SE Asia, often victims of trafficking gangs (around 40k) EU migrants came here to work, single people cannot survive on our benefits system.

Plus 20 or 30k migrants come across the channel seeking a "better life" at our expense.
How many crossed in 2016? about 10, because we could send back failed asylum seekers to the eU country they came via.

It's also stopped the Common Fisheries Policy allowing EU vessels to plunder our North Sea Fishing stocks. (Whether they will ever recover is another discussion.)
That's why the East Coast from the Tyne to the Wash had some of the biggest Leave vote

Yes no market for the fish they do catch and downgrade of UK waters.

So all n all, Brexit has been a stunning success.

I'm a leave voter. Would vote leave again. Haven't seen any personal benefits and didn't expect to. It's impossible to say if I have seen personal hardship as the global economy is fucked by so many disperate compounding factors it's unclear how big an impact Brexit had on them.

My issue with the EU is broad and ideological and they have done nothing since I voted leave to make me wish I had voted remain.

I take no joy in remainers being upset and even less joy in the reaction of other leavers to that upset.

The whole thing was an utter shit show. Neither "side" seemed to have a grasp on the stakes. The whole thing was, and remains, a ridiculous example of tribalism with both sides being incredibly annoying.

@Kitkatcatflap lazy post! You will see I’m a long time regular here if you checked!

I really do feel like we have become an even more Gloriously Strong Independent Super Power, our standing and influence on the international stage is quite truly the highest it’s ever been, of course this isnt only due to Brexit but the impeccable leadership of our dear PM. The economic effects are simply astounding, the NHS is thriving, our police forces brimming with officers.

The ease with which we can now travel internationally is the envy of everyone, Manchester airport really does have the dynamism of an International transit hub with the ease of which you can travel around the world with a British passport, the key to the world.

I think it’s made the Nation as a whole much more vibrant and dynamic, it’s truly brought out the Great British spirit in everyone, made everyone Britishly Great. Education and schools just couldn’t be any better now that we have Sovereign Independence, classrooms are thriving, teaching is now an aspirational vocation many could only dream of entering.

Our independence now means we are fully self sufficient in growing and producing everything we ever needed, fields upon fields filled with plenty of produce for all of us just waiting to be picked.

Brexit really has given us everything we could have ever imagined and more, the future gleams with optimism and opportunity for us all. Future generations will be forever praising and proudly proclaiming the Britishly Greatness Brexit brought forth for them.

Trying to think of any benefits....Still struggling....maybe some more duty free....

Chaos at ports ( I wasn't watching on TV, I was in it). A fortune for visas and paperwork for DD's obligatory year abroad. Half empty supermarket shelves. Yeah it's been just great.

Travelled to EU quite a bit in last year. Supermarkets full and although some rising prices, absolutely nothing compared to what we are facing. DD is back from living in EU, and came shopping with me, and asked WTF has actually happened to this country.

Exasperatednow
Fishing is going so well, isn't it.

Looks pretty good for some:

www.brixhamchamber.co.uk/brixham-defies-brexit-and-covid-storm-to-smash-fish-sale-record/

www.ross-shirejournal.co.uk/news/scottish-salmon-bounces-back-to-near-record-world-demand-265795/

Alexandra2001

If the French want to eat their own oysters that's up to them - personally I can't see the advantage:

www.foodsafetynews.com/2020/01/more-than-1000-sick-in-france-from-contaminated-raw-shellfish/

www.foodsafetynews.com/2021/03/france-investigates-norovirus-outbreaks-linked-to-oysters/

Travelled to EU quite a bit in last year. Supermarkets full and although some rising prices, absolutely nothing compared to what we are facing.

Did you travel to Germany?

gript.ie/german-aldi-set-to-raise-prices-by-up-to-50-from-today/#:~:text=Aldi's%20German%20branch%20says%20it,a%20wide%20range%20of%20items.

Yes I did, 2 weeks ago.
No shortages of anything in the 4 supermarkets I visited.

YABU. Any benefits (or disadvantages) won't become apparent for a long time.

Nothing positive has come out of Brexit for my family!!! I voted remain and the reality of Brexit is pretty much what I anticipated.

Alexandra2001
we could send back failed asylum seekers to the eU country they came via.

Not very successfully according to these stats:

Commons Library -
between 2015 and 2018, 7,365 incoming requests were made to transfer people into the UK under the Dublin regulation, from which 2,365 people were transferred to the UK (some requests may still be pending).

This means that the UK accepted around 33% of requests. During the same period, the UK made 18,953 outgoing requests to transfer people to other Member States, from which 1,395 people were transferred abroad. This amounts to around 7% of outgoing requests by the UK resulting in a transfer.

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/what-is-the-dublin-iii-regulation-will-it-be-affected-by-brexit/

Where as on fishing

www.york.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/2022/research/brexit-fisheries-deliver/

And ofcourse the sewage discharge as a result of relation of rules is now affecting shellfish- reported today.

This is (half) my view. I think some people have certainly seen disadvantages but I don't think that means that it won't be an overall net good.

That said I am by no means sure it will be good, time will tell.

I live in the UK but have property in the EU.
Brexit has had a direct impact;
Limited my access to 90/180 days
Cost more in so many ways, specifically international bank transfers
Beurocracy - importation of any equipment needed
Suppliers I used to rely on in the EU no longer importing from the UK, owing to customs dues, delivery costs and paperwork.

For me personally there has been no advantage WHATSOEVER in leaving the EU.
The Brexiteers need to own this catastrophic mess that they have created.