To ask for the tangible benefits to you from Brexit, whichever way you voted

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I genuinely want to know, what’s improved? Specific to you/your family?

is Brexit as it is what you thought it would be, or if you voted Remain, has it been more positive than you expected?

anyone calling it ‘goady thread’ is possibly saying Brexit isn’t going that well?

This!

The candlelight dinner throwing, Guardian reading classes of mumsnet can snark all they want into the internet about their Remain views and Brexit didn’t make them richer

I haven't read anything like this. Not a bit of it.

I fit your demographic, except for the snarking about riches.

I despise what Brexit will bring to the workplace, to our food standards and to the environment. People have fought for years for workplace rights - literally the right to work in safety. Those rights are already being dismantled. It's a tragedy. More people will die and be injured at work. They will have fewer and fewer rights and protections. The fact is that the Tory Right have been desperate to deregulate, and now here we are. Profit before people.

Brexit is already a race to the bottom, and the people most in need will lose out.

Honestly, reading the thread for benefits: what seems to stand out is that the lowest paid professions are no long paid rock bottom.

If I'm not wrong, the voting demographics reflect this too, with poorer communities now voting Conservative.

People have fought for years for workplace rights - literally the right to work in safety. Those rights are already being dismantled. It's a tragedy. More people will die and be injured at work. They will have fewer and fewer rights and protections.

But let's be honest. 94% of workplace fatalities are men. Do you really think a load of lefties will put men's issues above 'dismantling the patriarchy' or some nonsense about enforcing pronouns etc?

I am glad to see that some low paid workers are getting more, but the fact that Brexit is exacerbating inflation means that the extra will go less far. And the government has woken up to the fact that the economy needs immigration so is bringing over Asian immigrants, so the period of UK workers earning more may be shortlived.
Have to say my teenager working in McDonalds is still on a crap minimum wage, and my mother’s care home is stretched to the bone after the EU workers left. I wish we could cut the crap about all Remainers swanning round with first world problems. The care homes were already under pressure; now it’s worse and the people who pay the hardest price are the vulnerable residents. And actually I feel for any young person losing the YA as well. I know MN often sneers at the YA, but some of the people losing out have worked bloody hard, could have gained invaluable experience, come back and helped with the tragic dearth of MFL provision. All of that matters. It’s somebody’s loss. And though there seem to have been benefits for some, there are huge losses for others which shouldn’t just been sneered at.

Labour will appoint another bloke as minister of women's issues and waste loads of resources on woke nonsense and gender ishoos.

But let's be honest. 94% of workplace fatalities are men. Do you really think a load of lefties will put men's issues above 'dismantling the patriarchy' or some nonsense about enforcing pronouns etc?

Workers rights is not 'men's issues.'

But you know that.

The left and the trades unions definitely care more about workplace fatalities than the Tories, yes. The Tories want to deregulate which will mean more workplace accidents and deaths. The left want fewer workplace deaths of men and women, but as most are men - of men.

Have to say my teenager working in McDonalds is still on a crap minimum wage, and my mother’s care home is stretched to the bone after the EU workers left. I wish we could cut the crap about all Remainers swanning round with first world problems. The care homes were already under pressure; now it’s worse and the people who pay the hardest price are the vulnerable residents

I visit businesses for work, including care homes. I remember just after the referendum a care home manager said they tried to make a bit of a day out for the residents to go to vote. Most of the staff were from EE and had to take the residents down and they all loudly voted Leave because of too many immigrants. The manager said she felt so bad for the staff that day.

Zero. Zilch. Nada. Rien.
But then I knew that.

God, that’s sad. No wonder we’re struggling in social care. We lost thousands.

The idea that our country is uniquely awful is a fascinating kind of British exceptionalism, from people who often hate to think of themselves as British.

It's been like that for years. Orwell wrote about it.

I voted remain. I was baffled that so many people voted leave and confused as to why.

Personally I've seen only bad things created by Brexit along the lines of those already mentioned in this thread.

I also volunteer with a charity which supports those fighting against and affected by child trafficking, international child abduction, use of children as slaves and sexworkers and non consensual arranged marriages. Brexit has made our work, and that of the authorities so very much harder leading to more exploitation, less effective investigation and less prosecutions. It is an incredibly frightening and sad situation.

I also volunteer with a charity which supports those fighting against and affected by child trafficking, international child abduction, use of children as slaves and sexworkers and non consensual arranged marriages. Brexit has made our work, and that of the authorities so very much harder leading to more exploitation, less effective investigation and less prosecutions. It is an incredibly frightening and sad situation

This is heartbreaking. I hope the Brexiteers who sneer about Remoaners read your post.

It's so bloody awful, all of it. Thank you for your volunteering work - thank goodness there are people like you around.

Oh me! I got an Eu business grant for equipment, it was 30% of the cost and have really helps me out with my new venture.
Sadly due to Brexit I am likely to be the last year of this... oh no! hang in! A benefit of leaving?...
Er. No!
None... did anyone expect any?

I suppose the biggest benefit for me is that it drove a massive nail into the union's coffin and has hopefully brought independence forward by at least a decade. Truss is now doing a stellar job of banging the last few into the casket lid for that and I'm genuinely rooting for her to become the next PM (a sentence I never thought I'd say).

I've also always secretly wanted to go rioting and/or looting, so the fact widespread civil unrest is getting closer is a potential personal benefit, although that's maybe not strictly brexit related.

Oh, and it also pushed me to retrain into an in demand niche that means I can jump ship if my fellow countrymen and women reject the chance to rule themselves again.

Leave voters won't believe it. You can even show them numbers and they will be dismissed as fake news. Brexit was about feelings, not facts.

Brexit on a personal level has meant my retirement plans have gone out of the window. A first world problem I recognise, as I will still be able to have a reasonable level of comfort, but an impact nevertheless.

Brexit meant Boris Johnson became Prime Minister (probably otherwise would have been George Osborne or Theresa May in 2018 or 2019), and given his neglect, at least 20,000 more Covid deaths than would have occurred under either of those two people or indeed any other Prime Minister.

I would believe it if there was a reason given as to why its the fault of Brexit.

I had a quick Google and I can't find anything credible to link it. Is it the lack of cooperation with the Europeon police? If so then I think its utterly absurd that police cooperation should be dependent on a trade deal. That is the fault of whoever decided you can't have one without the other. I cannot fathom a single reason why they would be connected.

If so then I think its utterly absurd that police cooperation should be dependent on a trade deal. That is the fault of whoever decided you can't have one without the other. I cannot fathom a single reason why they would be connected.

Being part of the EU was much more than a trade deal.
I thought that was one of the primary reasons that people wanted to Brexit in the first place.

The threat to international security and co-operation was one of the issues brought up quite early on and dismissed as part of Project Fear. The EU is enmeshed in so many areas of our lives, way beyond trade. The more I read these threads, the more angry I am that a referendum was held without giving citizens due information. It isn’t for members of the general public to have to do exhaustive research, but no we didn’t know nearly as much as we needed to for an informed and responsible decision. And a referendum win held on false or incomplete information is not democracy, so I get sick and bloody tired of people trying to pretend it is. Under the Vienna convention the result would have been thrown out as unsafe had the referendum been binding, because it was so irresponsibly run. That would have been the mark of a mature democracy.

This blog explains some of it

Here’s the end

Sorry - missed the end

This.

It's affected DBS, qualification, EMA, etc etc. We are either not doing things or setting them up from scratch and costing a lot more. Some of these things we could of stayed in but out govt decided not to because of ridiculousness.

It's mostly been us that has been tye uncooperative party in our pursuit of cakeism.