To ask for the tangible benefits to you from Brexit, whichever way you voted

[Bunnyfuller]

I genuinely want to know, what’s improved? Specific to you/your family?

is Brexit as it is what you thought it would be, or if you voted Remain, has it been more positive than you expected?

anyone calling it ‘goady thread’ is possibly saying Brexit isn’t going that well?

Ok, I’ll bite. I think the UK govt was able to move more swiftly with the vaccine approvals due to Brexit. I think that is probably one benefit. Of course the country is also suffering downside right now as well.

Oh ffs
How can people not know that we could have done that in or out of the EU.

Ah, forgot that as this is a Brexit thread all responses must be angry and aggressive. Just remembered why I had started avoiding them.

The more I read these threads, the more angry I am that a referendum was held without giving citizens due information.

I'd be curious to know what information you think should have been made public that would have made a difference ?

(And it's subjects, not citizens. same way it's female, not "person who identifies as female).

Well, an overview of what the EU is, why it started and what its reach is would have been a start. That way people may have realised that it would affect policing. People seemed astonished when we lost the European Medicines Agency to Amsterdam. Research collaboration has been woefully affected. People like Michael Dougan were saying that we were so enmeshed in every part of our lives with the EU that it would take decades and considerable expense to leave, but that was overshadowed by the nonsense about Turkey etc. the Remain campaign was lamentable, but information should have been more readily accessible before that idiot, Cameron, set up a date and then took it upon himself to tell everyone that an advisory referendum would be made binding.
Citizens is absolutely fine. It’s common parlance and everyone knows what I’m referring to.

Cambridge dictionary definition is good enough for me

For me and my household, no apparent benefits and no apparent disbenefits.

UK exports to the EU for April-June 2022 were the highest EVER at £49.3bn - and this boom is largely due to oil, electricity (3.6 TWh - 5.7% of our capacity) and gas (we have 3 LNG processing plants and buy LNG from USA & Qatar and sell it to Ireland, Netherlands, France & Belgium through pipelines). I do find it ironic that when the EU wants something we have, there are no petty hold-ups, extra administration, form-filling or standards inspections at borders.

Great benefits, more money, new job sorting out the mess that results from it. You can't unwind 50 years of policy in five, without a big mess. Good business, but I voted remain and regret the departure as the UK has big problems.

The only good thing is that Government cannot hide behind the EU - if its a mess here, it really is on them. I don't like the EU but what nobody seemed to point out is what a bad neighbour they are (ask Norway, Turkey, Swiss) - literally the conflict was baked in from the start and it was made worse.

The only good thing is that Government cannot hide behind the EU

Bollocks. They're already blaming the EU for this, that and the other.

Problems with the NIP (that the UK agreed to) - it's the EUs fault.
Can't access Horizon ? It's the EUs fault.

etc
etc
etc

Another goader. The economy where I own a number of properties has doubled in value due to a boost to old industries. Big contracts for steel and relocated British companies. Tangible uplift to the community.

Nope, none, big fat zero benefits. And not single person who actually voted for it has been able to list any either as far as I can see.

The real issue is their sovereignty ain't paying my bills. And that's the truth of it.

Still, if they are pinning their hopes on Liz Truss to save Brexit, we'll be back in the EU before Christmas.

Not all of the member states of the EU followed it's lead on vaccine rollout. We would not have been obliged to either.

@Miffee I didn't give reasons because it is enormously complicated and multi faceted.

Reasons include:

The UK repealing EU directives and failing to update the modern slavery act thus creating gaps in the protection of victims and the definitions of human trafficking.

Worker restrictions mean intelligence is harder to gather as migrant workers now live and work under the radar and are unwilling to engage with police and intelligence services.

Anonymous encrypted Communication via things like WhatsApp and Facebook messenger is harder to monitor and crack as our relationship with Europol has changed.

Information sharing, and cross border working parties have been affected due to our position within / outside Europol and Eurojust.

We are not covered by measures like the European Arrest Warrant and European Criminal Records Information System.

That's the tip of the iceberg.

There are none, for us or our kids.

@WarmWinterSun
Can you not understand the frustration when the same falsehoods are repeated again and again?

You only have to look at Euro news to see things are also bad in Europe (and the rest of the world). Several European countries are also heading for a recession. Brexit is a minor issue, it's mainly Covid, Ukraine, Russia and the drought

Brexit isn’t a minor issue if you have a small business and now have extra paperwork and import/export challenges. Or like me, you work in science and have lost funding.