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To ask for the tangible benefits to you from Brexit, whichever way you voted

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Bunnyfuller · 22/08/2022 20:35

I genuinely want to know, what’s improved? Specific to you/your family?

is Brexit as it is what you thought it would be, or if you voted Remain, has it been more positive than you expected?

anyone calling it ‘goady thread’ is possibly saying Brexit isn’t going that well?

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maddy68 · 22/08/2022 23:46

For me it's been a nightmare. I have two businesses in the UK that now can't export without a ridiculous amount of costly paper work and export duties. So my business is basically f**ked

I moved to Spain under the withdrawal agreement but it's such a horrible task for anyone that wants to work or live here now. Basically unless you have £500k or are sponsored by a company (which means they can't find another EU citizen to fill that role ) you can't come

I am genuinely so sad that my niece's and nephews won't be able to enjoy the freedom that I had

Baggyeye · 22/08/2022 23:46

@outlanderfan88 sorry but I can't take anything seriously from a poster who makes sweeping statements about 'poverty stricken' Eastern Europeans.

Kendodd · 22/08/2022 23:47

It's no wonder the country is in the shit when people would sooner hurl insults than accept that many of the problems we face are being faced by other countries too (so likely due to Covid, Ukraine, etc) and our best chance of getting through them is to work together for the good of us all

Do you think Leave voters should also accept that many of our problems are actually caused or made worse by Brexit as well though? Only when we name our problems can we actually try to repair the damage.

RedToothBrush · 22/08/2022 23:50

Well lots of people did what many actively did vote for...
... And went back to where they came from.
Trouble is people then realised that possibly wasn't the best thing given we can't fill the jobs they did before.

More seriously, I do think its forcing the uk to consider its supply chains and to think about ways to shorten them. Cost is one element in this (which works both way) but the fragility of having everything come in from outside the UK has been eye opening. Covid also focused minds on this. And i think this is also being helped by climate change. The trouble with this is just how much companies have been able to restructure with this in mind to date. Not many.

Along these lines, I think its focusing minds of needing to do more manufacturing within the UK rather than outsourcing. Again how much this is actually happening in practice is probably very limited.

But at least minds are focused on what we should be considering and trying to do.

So from a strategic point of view it could be beneficial. In practice it's wishful thinking nonsense and inflation will kill it death.

Lorddenning1 · 22/08/2022 23:51

I actually voted to remain as I work in logistics but since Brexit I have been promoted to logistics coordinator and specialise in imports and exports, it's a new role and totally my own and I keep the business flowing with orders in and out of the EU, so Brexit has benefited me but I didn't want to leave the EU.

Exasperatednow · 22/08/2022 23:53

Highest inflation in g7.

And why are people who voted remain do angry? Possibly being told they were crying babies as the whole economy and culture (not even thinking about rights) was changed by a marginal vote - based on no tangible plans whatsoever. A change that has meant that our country has been effectively rudderless since 2016 and rather than taking back control gave a group of incompetent people unprecedented executive powers that have had no benefit for this country at all.

To ask for the tangible benefits to you from Brexit, whichever way you voted
Lorddenning1 · 22/08/2022 23:53

@maddy68 there should not be any export duties, just the cost of export documents which can be around £50 per shipment. Imports are totally different though.
You need to send goods to the EU witt the incoterm DAP, then it's in the receiver to pay the import charges etc if there are any.

FatOaf · 22/08/2022 23:53

is Brexit as it is what you thought it would be

Yes. I expected a total disaster and that's exactly what we've got.

Peach27 · 22/08/2022 23:57

I’ve finally got my Irish passport so feel smug.
Bit controversial but the school I work in has had a drop in EAL children which makes my job easier as working out what child will do with very little English in 5 lessons per day. Plus parents evening has less coordinating to as it’s only 3 not 8 parents who need polish/ Romanian translation.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 23/08/2022 00:01

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/08/2022 20:39

Scotland might get independence.

And if they do, I'll qualify for a passport, which will put me in a better position than 80% of the people waiting yo go through the gates.

DuesToTheDirt · 23/08/2022 00:01

FatOaf · 22/08/2022 23:53

is Brexit as it is what you thought it would be

Yes. I expected a total disaster and that's exactly what we've got.

Well said.

Florenz · 23/08/2022 00:03

What is the point of this thread? An outpouring of hate aimed at Brexiters? Why would anyone want to post their positives about Brexit when it's going to be torn to bits by bitter remainers who still haven't got over the fact that for once in their lives, they didn't get their own way?

The vote was a long time ago, Brexit is in the history books at this point. It's a bad look for Remainers to still be bleating about "their freedoms being taken away" and "idiotic people who didn't understand what they were voting for". Everyone else has moved on.

sweetkitty · 23/08/2022 00:08

Voted remain and annoyed that as a whole Scotland also voted remain but we had to leave because of the English vote, I think it pushed a lot of people down the independence road

SpinCityBlues · 23/08/2022 00:08

The vote was a long time ago, Brexit is in the history books at this point.

I guess the concept of living through history is beyond you

Sirius3030 · 23/08/2022 00:10

Florenz · 23/08/2022 00:03

What is the point of this thread? An outpouring of hate aimed at Brexiters? Why would anyone want to post their positives about Brexit when it's going to be torn to bits by bitter remainers who still haven't got over the fact that for once in their lives, they didn't get their own way?

The vote was a long time ago, Brexit is in the history books at this point. It's a bad look for Remainers to still be bleating about "their freedoms being taken away" and "idiotic people who didn't understand what they were voting for". Everyone else has moved on.

So just post one single benefit, and I’ll agree with you. Just one.

Exasperatednow · 23/08/2022 00:12

Florenz · 23/08/2022 00:03

What is the point of this thread? An outpouring of hate aimed at Brexiters? Why would anyone want to post their positives about Brexit when it's going to be torn to bits by bitter remainers who still haven't got over the fact that for once in their lives, they didn't get their own way?

The vote was a long time ago, Brexit is in the history books at this point. It's a bad look for Remainers to still be bleating about "their freedoms being taken away" and "idiotic people who didn't understand what they were voting for". Everyone else has moved on.

Benefit?

It would be easy to move on if it wasn't having an ongoing negative impact, wouldn't it?

Do you know why I didn't vote leave. There was no f-ing plan. It was just lies.

Crispynoodle · 23/08/2022 00:13

I live in NI if the DUP would shut tf up about the NI protocol our economy would be booming accessing both EU and UK markets

grumpyoldman1 · 23/08/2022 00:14

Agree completely

Baggyeye · 23/08/2022 00:15

@Florenz genuinely interested in any Brexit gains.

Using terms like 'bitter remainers' bleating away' is a bit antagonistic don't you think?

Brexit isn't even complete - Northern Ireland/Ireland still rumbling. If it was oven-ready they forgot to put the oven on!

The weird thing is no-one seems to think its a win. For Farage & co on the right it's too soft, for those on the left it's seen as damaging to the economy, trade with EU and international relations with Europe.

The NHS 'bus' money certainly hasn't appeared!

baroqueandblue · 23/08/2022 00:15

Why would anyone want to post their positives about Brexit when it's going to be torn to bits by bitter remainers

Not having that. Many of us - remainers and leavers alike - are now living through such a terrifying period in our country's social and economic history that we would gladly accept those positives. Just remind us what they are again?

Yep, didn't think so. Don't blame us because you can't illustrate your point with any actual benefits of Brexit. Leavers gonna gaslight, twas ever thus Hmm

Topseyt123 · 23/08/2022 00:16

Brexshit is exactly what I thought it would be - a complete and utter shit show.

I don't even like my shiny new blue passport.

As for sorting out my uni student DD's visas for her obligatory year abroad, what a fucking nightmare. We are just in the middle of that now. It is just so unnecessary, and of no benefit at all.

Brexshit can get in the bin.

Exasperatednow · 23/08/2022 00:16

bitter remainers who still haven't got over the fact that for once in their lives, they didn't get their own way?

If you really think this is why people are angry than you are just in denial.

carefullycourageous · 23/08/2022 00:24

Florenz · 23/08/2022 00:03

What is the point of this thread? An outpouring of hate aimed at Brexiters? Why would anyone want to post their positives about Brexit when it's going to be torn to bits by bitter remainers who still haven't got over the fact that for once in their lives, they didn't get their own way?

The vote was a long time ago, Brexit is in the history books at this point. It's a bad look for Remainers to still be bleating about "their freedoms being taken away" and "idiotic people who didn't understand what they were voting for". Everyone else has moved on.

It is telling you think we are upset because we 'didn't get our own way' - what a petty person you must be to think that is what is bothering us.

We are upset because Brexit is shit, has made the country as a whole and most of us as individuals poorer, has made us much weaker globally.

Many people have not moved on - the economy certainly hasn't moved on - and the % of people saying Brexit was a mistake grows every month - that is people who voted leave changing their minds.

BeanieTeen · 23/08/2022 00:27

bitter remainers who still haven't got over the fact that for once in their lives, they didn't get their own way?

I don’t think it’s bitter to struggle to see the bright side of Brexit. This thread was an attempt to help do so, but we’re struggling somewhat still. I’m all ears and ready to be converted into a happy and satisfied leaver… so what happy news do you have??? Other than schadenfreude for how ‘bitter remainers’ not getting their own way. I really don’t think we can count that.

Madwife123 · 23/08/2022 00:31

Absolutely nothing!

I am NHS staff so seeing the crippling effect it’s had on staff, but then I expected this would happen hence I voted remain.

It’s even worse than the disaster I expected.