To think size 18 is plus size and not 'hardly plus size'

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The poster, with a very large following, is saying a size 18 isn't really plus size by much, and that 'most people (in the UK), are above a Size 16?

Really? I don't know that many people above a size 16. I really don't. I know lots and lots of size 12/14 and thought that was about average? It's usually the first sizes to sell out

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If you go to the Fashion Museum in Bath, you will see that until about the 50's onwards, post-War, none of us would have fitted in the clothes of the past. Women's clothes look like they were for children, tiny build, tiny height and tiny waist, none of us, not even those in the 70's would fit in them. The shoes were also very tiny. Build and height has changed enormously since then and is continuing to change as well.

Very well said, Unscented, but unfortunately even mentioning the subject - including agreeing with the objective statement that an 18 is plus size - is deemed fat shaming by some, purely because it's not what they want to hear

This even includes an acquaintance who's 28 stone and (unsurprisingly) needs a knee replacement, whose GP is encouraging her to lose weight ... apparently that's "fat shaming" too, to which we can only throw up our hands in despair

Because it is extremely tall for a woman.

Dont tell me what a I’m doing.

I know exactly what I’m meaning to say - and I’m saying it.

How is saying a female of 6 ft is a extremely tax rude or insulting. Please tell me.

What on earth is wrong with being a 6ft tall female?

A lot of the off hand comments on sizes being acceptable or not, are not coming from the purported ‘shorter, slim’ one. That much is obvious.

This!
Exactly this.

Unfortunately that is only the case if you are young and/or much more active than most people consider 'relatively' to mean.
My daily 30 minutes of brisk walking only count as 'lightly' or at best 'moderately' active, and at 53, 5' 4" and 8 stone 12 (mid healthy BMI) my calorie requirement is a tiny 1600 per day.
For years I assumed it was 2000, and that my extra two stone was unavoidable due to my age/genetics/bones/large frame (which is in fact small!)
Couldn't agree more about the plants though. Plant based diets are game changing.

Just read the second part of the comment
😂😂

Oh my days!

You do realise men and women are very, very different don’t you.

You also realIe I said ‘tall for a woman’ this completely qualifying my statement.

Shit isn't it

Around 2,000 calories per day for a person who’s relatively active, with most of that being plants, preferably not ultra-processed, and the diet being varied

That worked when I was 26, not so much 20 years later. 2000 calories! I wish I could eat that much and be slim. And I'm above average height and active.

Oh dear. I mentioned it as I once had a flight back from New York next to a poor woman who could not fit comfortably into a normal seat.

She was “overflowing” the arm rest between us at take-off, and had to ask to have it lifted for the rest of the flight, leaving me very much squeezed hard against my own arm rest on the other side for hours.

It really wasn’t nice for either of us; she was so embarrassed, and I ended up in a lot of pain from the pressure in my side from the other rest.

She hadn’t ever flown before and had no idea how hard it would be to fit into a normal economy seat.

Also following the still recommended healthy eating pie chart from the NHS would make me more overweight than I am! Eating as many carbs as I do veg! Plus extra in the protein zone as pulses are also carby.

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But how is that relevant to a discussion around the population-level statistics?

Google tells me:

Roughly 1% of US women are 6 feet tall or taller.

If you are a woman who is 6ft tall you are extremely tall. The height of men is irrelevant to this fact. This is not an insult. It is not emotive. It is a fact.

I'm 5ft2 so quite short. I'm overweight (according to my BMI, not just what I think looks good) when I'm in a size 10. So I would say a size 18 or larger is most definitely plus sized.

This is something that still really annoys me. The 2000 calorie thing really annoys me because so many people don't understand the concepts of average or being a statistical outlier.

If you read a post on an internet thread that makes a factual observation about populations in general and take personal offence to it then maybe the internet is not for you.

Yep.

Love the pp poster offended at being called tall, at 6ft.

Yeah.
That’s exactly what I said.
Right there for all to see.

@Quincythequince and you can read my comment. It is tall compared to other women. You even exaggerated extremely by repeating it and using it in a sentence by itself.

Your second comment was extremely insulting.
Extremely.

As you would put it. Have a nice day.

I've had this before. I didn't want to make him feel any more uncomfortable or risk embarrassing him but it was an absolutely hideous journey.

Agree. Not sure what the point of your OP is

The 2000 calorie thing really annoys me because so many people don't understand the concepts of average or being a statistical outlier

Plus it's just not based in reality. And men getting an extra 500 cals a day whatever their height and weight? Nonsense.

I think the point once again comes down to the fact that being this large isn't something that only affects that person. It has an impact on everyone else around them. We can't just ignore and pretend it isn't an issue. Putting in bigger seats on a plane would have an impact on others too because planes would have less seats and this has an impact on others too. It is not something which is only personal.

People might not like this but it is relevant.

Also this 👆🏻

The average shoe size in the Uk is I believe a 5.

Will we now hear people being offended because 7 and above is considered ‘big feet’

(p.s. I am a size 7, I have larger than average feet, I know this).

The fact people are saying a size 8 is underweight (especially given that a size 8 today is like a 10 from a decade ago) tells everything you need to know. Someone is also even saying an 18 is not necessarily overweight: come the fuck on

The opposite of fat isn’t anorexia. Anorexia is not common. Being fat is. I gain too much weight with pregnancy and I’m always a bit fat before losing it and it’s deeply unpleasant.

fat people don’t always know they are fat - my mother was a size 22 for years and used to look in the mirror and think it was fine.

Love the pp poster offended at being called tall, at 6ft.

It seemed silly to be offended at the initial comment but saying extremely tall. And repeating extremely. And putting it in a sentence by itself. Was done intentionally to wind pp up.

You have extremely ^big ears.
Extremely big.
That's just a statement of fact! What are you upset about!^

Extremely is quite unpleasant. You could've just mentioned centrioles or reiterated it's tall without that.