DH has completely changed

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My DH has completely altered his worldview/ opinion over the last few years. It was gradual, and only now am I coming to realise the full extent of it. We've been together for 15 years.

He believes in the great reset, believes there will be a nuclear war, covid is a hoax and the vaccines are killing people. He's stockpiled around £3k worth of food/ camping equipment/ knives. Our spare room is full of this stuff. He's also invested thousands into cryptocurrency.

He believes that inflation is all part of the "plan" and all the world leaders are "in on it" together.

I can't take it anymore. He disrespects my opinion by continuing to talk about it daily, even when I've expressed that I do not share the same opinion and don't want to argue about it. He tells me that "I will see when the time comes."

Every time there's news of a celebrity death/ unexplained death of a young person, he blames the covid vaccine. He threatened to leave me if I got it, although changed his mind when I made clear how serious I was.

Aibu to feel at the end of my tether? It's so draining.

He hasn't really thought it out. Nobody wants to survive a nuclear war. You can't have hoards of food and a generator, it'll be taken from you as soon as the SHTF and desperation kicks in. Unless you're out of the blast radius of a nuclear power plant in the event of some sort of apocalyptic event you couldn't bug in anyway. I could go on.... He's just wasting money to settle this intense anxiety he's got going on.

Unfortunately you’re not going to be able to get through to him until he wants to change. Much like an alcoholic. Be mindful that he’s probably a member of various forums that constantly reinforce his worldview. A community of people that can all buy into the same fantasy and main about how their families members are against them. In opposition to that, you are the enemy.

conspiracy theorists thrive on the grifters, the disappointed, the bored and the boring. The grifters aren’t going to drop the act and fuck up their income. The disappointed are perpetually frustrated at their position in life which is beneath where they feel they are entitled to be. They’re not inclined to let go of the one thing that they feel sets them apart as better than everyone else. The bored aren’t going to give up their hobby and the boring are much like the disappointed, disinclined to give up what they believe makes them interesting.

As much as you may want to, you cannot save him from himself.

@loginsaredicks i find it curious how you believe the study that’s just been linked but you probably dismiss any scientific research that goes against what you think, right? I mean there could never be an alternative to what you think?

It’s so deeply ingrained that nothing anyone says will make any difference so I think it’s futile

Probally just an IT fupup that escalated quickly due to bad management. Although it's strange that no one questioned the software enough before they started throwing people in jail.

Arse covering basically.

Ps re "just Googling" stuff. You do know Google are big tech too and they suppress results depending on what they want to appear/not appear.

Not my links. I mean links regarding the bullshit they have decided to inflict. I mean seriously where do you start?

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Ps re "just Googling" stuff. You do know Google are big tech too and they suppress results depending on what they want to appear/not appear.

Yes, which was my point!

You know where to look that apparently others don't.

People will just Google without guidance from people such as you, who say Google will be biased and not lead them to reliable or accurate sources.

You say sources that support your beliefs and aren't MSM are apparently easy to find / easy to view.

You not sharing them other than one set of data that doesn't support your beliefs and another source that is a letter to the BMJ not a BMJ peer reviewed study (but I will still read with an open mind when I get a chance to do so properly) doesn't make sense to me.

Can you say in your own words what you think the BMJ letter you shared is evidence of, so that I can try to understand your POV when I've read it properly?

It's strange to me that you still haven't addressed the fact that people have explained why the statistics you shared don't support your beliefs. You just dismissed people's explanations by saying they've fallen for MSM narrative. You aren't willing to take on board statistical analysis.

You seem far less open minded than I am. Any statistical analysis of what you've shared is dismissed as people being brainwashed by the MSM when they've literally just logically and without emotion analysed the statistics you shared!

Anywhere you like. You must have had something in mind when you joined the thread and were moved enough to post.

Private Eye is a place to start for some stories that the government and public sector would like to go away (they have an entertaining column about conspiracy theorists too). I figure they've been sued so many times by so many people there must be a bit of truth in there.

Ben Goldacre's Bad Science is a good read too to understand issues about clinical trials without concluding that it's all bunkum. He used to sell t-shirts that said 'I think you'll find it's a little bit more complicated than that.'

I think it's too late for you to reverse course but this might help to explain it. The covid vaccine is like the flu vaccine, which you are given once a year. There is nothing strange about it. Covid and flu are also completely different beasts to things like polio.

And while I'm here your post about deaths amongst the vaccinated was covered months ago, some of it extensively on mn. Did you miss it?

loginsaredicks it is clear that you have no understanding of science in even it's most basic form.

A letter to the editor by someone with a bias?

You thought that was some kind of 'evidence'?
Explains a lot 😂

How does the BMJ publishing this square with MSM and the scientific establishment hiding things? or is it that they're being tricky and clever, printing just enough to avoid everyone realsing how captured they are? Or it it just a protean CT with no counterfactual?

Have I missed the description of what the 'real' Great Reset represents beyond all the UN, UK government and other freely published notes on the societal changes required to try to address climate change and a post-industrial world? I know I should scratch the surface and do my own research and not believe MSM but there doesn't seem to be any consensus nor a bounded description that can be tested. Wifi doesn't seem to be beaming the information straight into my head and the chips in the vaccines that are simultaneously miraculous and s*y don't seem to be working unless they're stopping me see what's really there.

Yawn.

To all of you really. There's none so blind as those who will not see.

@loginsaredicks im interested to know your views on the post office scandal where many people did actually go to jail and there was significant impact on lots of peoples lives.

is this part of the conspiracy?

@loginsaredicks

There's none so blind as those who will not see.

The absolute irony of this.

Points for not using the word sheeple though.

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The Guardian is not a credible source - c'mon!!!

@ foliageeverywhere I totally agree!

@Booklover3 laughing at 'stay away from youtube'.

@ Onandupw 'watching batshit'? That's strange. OP did not say her husband was watching batshit.

@Keepingupappearance be careful on this thread. You can not have a voice 'it's not allowed' because you will just be put down as a gas-lighter and conspiracy theorist. No matter what fact or evidence you produce. If your opinion is not on tv or in a printed paper then your opinion can not be allowed to be valid.

There are cases going through the courts now where people killed or injured by the vaccines are receiving legal recompense. Cases are being reported regularly by the regional TV news here, as well as the national news. The MSM, if you will.

The number of claims in progress is in the low thousands. That's a few thousand claims in the context of hundreds upon hundreds of millions of vaccines being administered. It's a very low % people of adverse reactions.

Drugs have side affects. Covid vaccines are affected with an increased risk of cardiac events. No-one has argued otherwise. It's a sad reality and those affected are being compensated, but the idea that there's any kind of grand conspiracy at play is just nonsense.

How would giving people heart issues help "the establishment"? What's the end game here? How does this conspiracy make sense in people's heads?

It's "extremely rare" but I know a fair few people seriously affected by it. Why push a crappy dangerous vaccine in the first place?

That's the conspiracy? Money or something? But it's one of those two.

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That's part of the problem here. If you produce evidence, it's not opinion, it's fact. If you announce 'fact' without evidence, it's opinion. If that opinion is backed up, but the backup is also opinion, it still lacks evidence, so still isn't fact.

You are entitled to your opinion, of course. You're just not entitled, in the absence of evidence, to have it be considered fact.