DH has completely changed

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My DH has completely altered his worldview/ opinion over the last few years. It was gradual, and only now am I coming to realise the full extent of it. We've been together for 15 years.

He believes in the great reset, believes there will be a nuclear war, covid is a hoax and the vaccines are killing people. He's stockpiled around £3k worth of food/ camping equipment/ knives. Our spare room is full of this stuff. He's also invested thousands into cryptocurrency.

He believes that inflation is all part of the "plan" and all the world leaders are "in on it" together.

I can't take it anymore. He disrespects my opinion by continuing to talk about it daily, even when I've expressed that I do not share the same opinion and don't want to argue about it. He tells me that "I will see when the time comes."

Every time there's news of a celebrity death/ unexplained death of a young person, he blames the covid vaccine. He threatened to leave me if I got it, although changed his mind when I made clear how serious I was.

Aibu to feel at the end of my tether? It's so draining.

Whats most telling IMO is he knows that he has to reign it in with normal people but is using you OP as an outlet to help convince himself he is right with his views.

He obviously still has some self awareness that he is going off the deep end to some extent.

1: Personally I'd ask him to stop using joint money on this type of thing, if he wishes to use his own personal money that is left over that is upto him.

2: He can't just stuff it all in the house, he has got a shed or garage that this stuff can be shoved into?

3: Make it VERY clear that it is not acceptable to keep talking about it over and over again. I'd firstly just walk away every time he mentions it. Don't argue with it or even respond, totally ignore it and don't feed the paranoia. If he keeps going, walk out the room/house for a short while and let him stew abit. You won't win an argument with someone of that mind set, because like a religious fanatic they will not accept they can be wrong.

4: If it keeps going beyond even then time to threaten to let all his friends/collegues know his viewpoints, maybe societal pressure might impact as he clearly seems to be aware its not a normal viewpoint, otherwise he'd be talking about it to anyone.

5: As a nuclear option, threaten to leave him, and perhaps for one night actually sleep somewhere else if he starts to talk about it too much to make it crystal clear you are serious.

You need to leave him, you'll feel so much happier. Even if he is right, how are his preparations going to save the pair of you? Younger, fitter, desperate people will simply come and take it. In the meantime you could be enjoying life, the pair of you.

That’s a grim read @Wallaw.

hope you don’t mind but I’m going to post that link to a couple of other threads where they might be of interest.

@loginsaredicks

It'll be such a shame if you don't come back to the thread with some links to evidence, or at least a reply acknowledging that you don't have any.

Because your sort of posts, followed by a flounce or disappearing act, are incredibly frustrating to people with open minds.

You ask people to question MSM narrative and look at other sources... but when asked for some starters you say 'it's all on Google' etc.

When I passionately believe something, I put my money where my mouth is and back it up. Why don't you want to share evidence of such important things if you have sources to do so?

@Cornettoninja

Agree. A very grim read, and of course, the more widely read it is the better.

Although I was disappointed that he never even touched on the idea of Bill Gates sending death pings to random microchips as a possible cause.

I imagine that’s a more robust project in the pipeline

There was a call out at the end of that thread for suggestions for his next analysis…

While I respect your decision to do your own research, can you clarify what that means?

Do you have relevant expertise and research experience in a particular field? Or are you just reading/ watching stuff on you tube?

how are you evaluating sources?

I hear a lot from anti vaxxers about their ‘extensive research’ but they’ve failed to show any evidence that they’ve done anything other than ignore ‘mainstream media’ in favour of YouTubers

He isn't isn't wrong about some if it no matter how you try and deny it. The great reset is very real and has been explained, its not great for anyone except the globalists/elite

Sorry, missed an explanation of the Great Reset beyond some statements that are reported as being made by representatives of the WEF and I don't want to presume they are the entirety of the Great Reset in case it is actually different. What constitutes the Great Reset, please? I'd like to know so I can recognise it when it happens or realise it has happened if it already has?

I'm so sorry, he won't change. It's best to leave. One day he might haul himself out of it and realise it was all bunkum and then he can come and try to make amends - but until or if that happens it's no way to live. I'd expect your money is being flushed down a crypto drain as well so separating finances also seems like a good idea.

It must be so upsetting and hurtful for you. If it helps, it's remarkably more common than you'd think. I hope he comes out of it OP but it's not a nice thing to be around and I think it's only going to get worse in the immediate term.

@Sunflowerkeep

The great reset is very real and has been explained, its not great for anyone except the globalists/elite

For those of us genuinely interested to find out more, can you share a few links that best explain / reflect your perception of what 'the great reset' is?

Just as lots of people use the phrase but without detail or any evidence it's hard to know who is talking about what.

And to be clear, if like another poster you say 'just Google it' then you would be missing my point which is that lots of people use the same phrase (the great reset) to describe a whole spectrum of things, so it's really handy to know what you mean by it in your posts.

True! The great reset type theories pull people in like a cult as they grab so many broad ideas - crypto, Bill Gates, Covid, Covid stats, governments across the entire world, the monetary system, World Bank - huge vague stuff - so when one fact emerges to support one small part of one of those things, somewhere in the world , it's taken as a confirmation that the whole great reset stuff is right, because it was one part of it. It's like an octopus - once this belief system has wrapped it's tentacles around a loved one, it's extremely hard to get them out. It's a true juggernaut.

Wars and viruses have been happening somewhere in the world literally throughout time. It's just our insular Western perspective that makes us think that there is something crazy happening. We're just not used to it happening to US (not since WWII and the invention of major vaccines for numerous existing diseases, anyway).

Evidence would be nice but a bounded testable/falsifiable definition would be a start. I expect the Great Reset has a firm provable definition but I've seen many preceeding CTs around COVID, Gates, Vatican, brain control through wifi, vaccines, chips, doctors being paid to falsify death certificates and so on that are promptly forgotten and the CT moves on. Sometimes I'm reminded of an eschatological sect with the end of days slightly changed at each postponement. That said, the Great Reset will probably be different.

Again, Schroedinger's vaccine, simultaneously a miracle and the work of the devil. Had several patients want to watch it being made up and inspect it to see the chips then were puzzled. Didn't compute that the state of the art regarding passive chips are 100-10,000?x larger than one that could be administered in a liquid. Then again, they and family members happily carry a mobile computer that tracks them, their surfing and contains more insight into their location and thinking than any passive chip could as does their social media posting.

So from what I understand, it is a global economic recovery plan, outlined by the WEF, drawn up in response to COVID-19.

There is nothing in it I would consider particularly alarming - but maybe you want to dig deeper - all the details can be found on their website.

It has spawned all sorts of conspriacy theories.

My dad has fallen down this rabbit hole too.

It would be one thing if he was capable of quietly believing this stuff, but he’s constantly on his soap box. Won’t chance the topic, and any request to do so is met with anger. Ruins every family occasion with angry, conspiratorial ranting.

We’ve gone low contact.

@Zilla1, @foliageeverywhere gives a good summary but the Wikipedia page is a good start. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset

I might take time to but it's frustrating from the other side too. Honestly this data is everywhere apart from MSM.

MSM is Government and Government is MSM. You are always fighting again the propaganda machine that has unlimited funding provided by the very people but it lies to.

I don't blame people for consuming the narrative. It's actually quite an easy sell after something like religion and people buy that.

I have taken the red pill and realise that the government basically lies about everything it's very hard to "be a normie" anymore, especially after the last few years.

They have basically ramped up the pisstaking and people actually begged for more.

Ps just to add. Didn't the Iraq war teach you people anything about government?

@loginsaredicks

I might take time to but it's frustrating from the other side too. Honestly this data is everywhere apart from MSM.

You 'might'? If it's everywhere and easy to access if you know where to look then why not just share a few links?

Don't you want people to know there is evidence for what you're saying so that they take you seriously?

Genuinely, I cannot fathom why it's difficult for people to share a few links...

I've asked politely to a good number of people who say the MSM have a false narrative and that they aren't to be trusted, so people should 'do their own research' and that 'the evidence is available to everyone if they just look' etc... so why not share some of it?

If examples of evidence are super easy to access like you said then you could have copy and pasted a link in the time it took to reply.

Surely it's worth doing so to spread the word about topics you're passionate about and to stop people believing what you think is false information sold to and by the MSM?

@loginsaredicks

MSM is Government and Government is MSM. You are always fighting again the propaganda machine that has unlimited funding provided by the very people but it lies to.

You're on Mumsnet right now and able to very easily and very quickly share evidence that goes against the propaganda machine to people with open minds, saying that evidence is very easy to access... but you won't do so.

I can't get my head around why.

I might take time to but it's frustrating from the other side too. Honestly this data is everywhere apart from MSM.
MSM is Government and Government is MSM. You are always fighting again the propaganda machine that has unlimited funding provided by the very people but it lies to.
I don't blame people for consuming the narrative. It's actually quite an easy sell after something like religion and people buy that.
I have taken the red pill and realise that the government basically lies about everything it's very hard to "be a normie" anymore, especially after the last few years.
They have basically ramped up the pisstaking and people actually begged for more

Crazy how all posters making these claims sound the same

If the "data" (what data? what are we specifically talking about?) is everywhere, surely you can just link it.

If you really believe we're all being sucked into a dystopian nightmare, it would make sense to provide tangible, acessible information that would inform others and get people on side.

Don't think anyone's denying the government lies though.