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"Darling, don't be smug"

167 replies

comeonangel · 16/08/2022 23:12

Visiting at a friend's house (not local) our 2 DDs, both age 3 playing - hers is slightly younger than mine.

Her DD and mine are doing a puzzle together and mine can't do it as quickly as hers can.

Her DD says something to my DD along the lines of "I can't believe you can't do this I've been doing it since I was two".

My friend replied "darling, don't be smug."

Was this a dig that my DD is developmentally behind or something? I ask genuinely as it's not a term that's used here where I live and I've just read another thread about 'smug' meaning superior.

AIBU to now be thinking her telling my DD off for being 'smug' was an implication that my DD was behind?

OP posts:
Sometimeswinning · 17/08/2022 09:13

The thought going into this is brilliant! Mum flexing her 3 year old doing a puzzle, whilst cleverly disguising it as teaching her a life lesson about being smug. Whilst at the same time we all know she's clearly proud her child is better than the other at completeing a puzzle.

Or she could have just been telling her child to pipe down!

I definitely hope it's the former now! We should all champion our kids, even when they are smartarses!

BellePeppa · 17/08/2022 09:17

comeonangel · 16/08/2022 23:21

Oh, gosh, I'm not worried and haven't overthought. It's only since reading another thread on here about how loaded a term 'smug' is that I thought about it at all.

Flowers for you for feeling that you need to reassure me, though.

That’s a bit of a mean reply to someone who was trying to reassure you? I would say you did overthink it or you wouldn’t have come on MN asking about it😏

PowerPack · 17/08/2022 09:19

I think smug is an odd choice of word with a 3yo, but she was telling DD to stop putting your DD down/stop showing off.

OTOH, I suspect there could have been an element of parental smugness in drawing attention to it.

IScreamAtMichaelangelos · 17/08/2022 09:20

I think children learn to understand words that their parents say to them regularly, regardless of whether they're unusual words or not. I have a somewhat esoteric/unusual/weird vocabulary myself (it's the autism - I talk like I've eaten a dictionary) and my children sound correspondingly odd for their age because I often talk to them. DS1 would have spoken like the visiting friend's child, for sure - not DS2 as he has speech delay (more autism) but definitely DS1.

I also agree the visiting mum was telling her DD not to be a dick, which was good of her.

BellePeppa · 17/08/2022 09:23

entropynow · 17/08/2022 07:48

You've never met my sons...
But carry on with the sexist stereotypes, do.

I have sons and their interactions with friends is very different than girls. My friend has girls and we have often discussed how different the dynamics are - we must both be very sexist😁🙄

CatsmeowCowsmoo · 17/08/2022 09:28

No, it doesn't infer your child is less than. She's pulling up her daughter on her smug comment which is what a good parent would do in this situation: teach them manners and humility.

howdidigethere · 17/08/2022 09:35

I too am wondering where you live (can't be in the UK surely) where the word 'smug' is unknown!

It's also not a word I'd expect 3 year olds to understand the meaning of! Odd.

SillySausage81 · 17/08/2022 10:00

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 17/08/2022 08:05

Does anyone else think ‘smug’ is an unusual word to use to a 3 year old - if you’re expecting them to understand what you mean?

Aside from that I love the word - it sounds like what it is, IYKWIM.

Children understand whatever words they're taught. If the child's mother always uses that word instead of, say, "don't show off" or "don't brag" then it's what the child will understand. Especially if, as a pp said, it's an ongoing lesson that the mother has been trying to teach her for a while.

I remember starting primary school and being perplexed by certain supposedly "childish" words that everyone seemed to be using such as "poorly" and "cross", as my parents never used those words, they just said "ill" or "angry", so I didn't understand what they meant at first.

autienotnaughty · 17/08/2022 10:18

@DietrichandDiMaggio true I was referring specifically to where I live but don't want to name 😊

autienotnaughty · 17/08/2022 10:20

@stuntbubbles fair enough I concede 😂😂

excitingusername · 17/08/2022 10:26

Why don't you know what smug means?

Rosehugger · 17/08/2022 10:30

Sounds fair enough to me.

SleeplessInEngland · 17/08/2022 10:34

comeonangel · 16/08/2022 23:21

Oh, gosh, I'm not worried and haven't overthought. It's only since reading another thread on here about how loaded a term 'smug' is that I thought about it at all.

Flowers for you for feeling that you need to reassure me, though.

lol at the OP being snarky given the whole thread reads like they don't know what the word 'smug' means.

SudocremOnEverything · 17/08/2022 10:44

I probably wouldn’t have used smug with a 3 year old. But maybe it’s an ongoing issue and this 3 year old is familiar with the term and that it means they’re not being nice to their friend.

when DS2 was at nursery, the staff found it hilarious that he would sometimes declare ‘well that’s a bit problematic!’ He heard the word at home (both parents were academics in the social sciences so he’d picked it up in passing).

SudocremOnEverything · 17/08/2022 10:46

I guess that example could sound smug. But it isn’t. Because there was nothing especially impressive about it - it reflected what he heard at home rather than any intelligence or whatever in him.

No different to him saying he had a skelf rather than a splinter because that’s what I call them.

SudocremOnEverything · 17/08/2022 10:53

And my response when the nursery staff told me was to think ‘oh. They must think we’re total wankers!’

Changechangychange · 17/08/2022 10:55

autienotnaughty · 17/08/2022 08:16

Yorkshire for me - we don't do smug our lass

Ha, you’ve obviously never been to Harrogate Grin

autienotnaughty · 17/08/2022 11:14

@Changechangychange Harrogate is too posh for me !!(beautifull tho)

BiasedBinding · 17/08/2022 13:21

BellePeppa · 17/08/2022 09:23

I have sons and their interactions with friends is very different than girls. My friend has girls and we have often discussed how different the dynamics are - we must both be very sexist😁🙄

Yes you must be

EarringsandLipstick · 17/08/2022 13:34

@BiasedBinding

I have both boys & girls. Their friendship dynamics are v different - it's not sexist to say so, no idea why you need to be snippy to @BellePeppa

It doesn't mean that all girls interact the same way or that all boys do - my kids are v sporty & active compared to other DC that might be quieter / more artistic / enjoy being inside.

But in general, I agree that boys & girls interactions with their friends, after a certain point, is different.

BruceAndNosh · 17/08/2022 13:35

RightOnTheEdge · 16/08/2022 23:18

I think smug is feeling that you're superior rather than someone actually being superior so she was telling her daughter off for being big headed and bragging not putting your dd down.

Nicely put!

shreddednips · 17/08/2022 14:05

JunkIsland · 17/08/2022 09:04

Thing is, the child CAN do it better. Both children know it. And their parents do.

Exactly. The fact one child did the puzzle better than the the other isn’t in doubt. There was an achievement in that sense. That kid’s attitude about said achievement was unpleasantly boastful and self-congratulatory. Or smug.

The word makes no judgement on the abilities of the other child or whether the achievement itself had any sort of value to it. Fair enough that the op wasn’t very familiar with it and wanted to check, but some other posters on here are reading levels of meaning that the post doesn’t support. Yes, it’s possible that the mum was being smug herself (I can imagine a tone in which this could be delivered that would achieve that), but no evidence to support it at all.

Exactly. The key thing is that the PERSON BEING SMUG thinks it's an achievement. Whether it is an achievement in the eyes of anyone else is irrelevant. My cat is smug because he brought in a slug this morning. I certainly don't agree that this is a towering achievement, but there is only one word for his current mood- SMUG.

Smug is my new favourite word.

Jamaisy82 · 17/08/2022 14:06

Smug means excessive pride. I don't think you need to read into it too much.

InPraiseOfBacchus · 17/08/2022 15:22

Christ on a bike ...

This is why I'm wary about spending time with my friends who are parents. I might become public enemy number one by saying something completely innocent.

Lives need to be got.

BellePeppa · 17/08/2022 19:21

BiasedBinding · 17/08/2022 13:21

Yes you must be

🙄😏