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To not really like it when men post on here?

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Username91 · 15/08/2022 21:17

Just that really. After reading not one but two bullshit threads started by men in the last few days I’m just a bit sick of them posting on here. I love mumsnet. I’ve read interesting threads, hilarious ones, heartbreaking and sometimes infuriating ones and I just feel like saying ‘oh piss off’ every time a bloke sticks their neb in. It’s MUMSnet ffs. I know I am being unreasonable really and am a massive hypocrite as I’m not (yet) a mum myself haha and don’t actually contribute anything of value to this site myself but still….they get on my tits.

OP posts:
Teddletime · 16/08/2022 09:56

@Username91

I hope some of the male posters often requested for their input such as Piglet John, ignore the moaning posters and keep responding to requests for help.
Some examples of recent requests -

What is this pipe for? (Piglet John or similarly helpful people do you know?)

cold water taps just a trickle - Piglet john or anyone handy please help

Screeching noise when turning taps on - piglet John for this maybe ?

Piglet John knurling advice please

There are many requests for his help if you feed his name into the Search bar at the top. I think some posters only read AIBU or Relationships and don't see the helpful input that male posters make on other boards

hewouldwouldnthe · 16/08/2022 09:58

AtomicBlondeRose · 15/08/2022 21:20

I don’t object to men per se but there’s a certain tone men take when starting threads which makes me want to cringe myself inside out and 90% of male posters use it. An overly
flowery, self-consciously “witty”, wannabe self-effacing style. It’s immediately obvious that it’s a man, usually includes the work “hence”, makes you suspect the poster’s only seconds away from a “methinks” and anyway the jolly “aren’t I a big silly” persona soon falls away and turns into outright hostility about three posts in.

Spot on!

They also post more than women on the 'sex' section. Seem pretty reasonable and not the 'all women love anal sex' theme I'd expected!

umpaumpajumps · 16/08/2022 10:06

Well OP I think you will find on MN own TALK guidelines they specifically accept that both men and women use and post on MN.

One example
"However, on rare occasions where there appears to be a clear need to safeguard the welfare of a Mumsnetter and/or his/her family, it may be necessary to contact relevant authorities about a clearly identifiable member and his/her posts on Mumsnet."
^^
So if you don't like it I guess you start your own forum for women and only women.

PlantFaced · 16/08/2022 10:06

Teddletime · 16/08/2022 09:56

@Username91

I hope some of the male posters often requested for their input such as Piglet John, ignore the moaning posters and keep responding to requests for help.
Some examples of recent requests -

What is this pipe for? (Piglet John or similarly helpful people do you know?)

cold water taps just a trickle - Piglet john or anyone handy please help

Screeching noise when turning taps on - piglet John for this maybe ?

Piglet John knurling advice please

There are many requests for his help if you feed his name into the Search bar at the top. I think some posters only read AIBU or Relationships and don't see the helpful input that male posters make on other boards

There was a thread a few months ago thanking PigletJohn for advice over the years from many posters. People referred to PJ as ‘he’ but someone on the thread raised the question of whether pigletjohn was actually a man. PJ didn’t confirm or deny on the thread as far as I remember. No idea if it’s been confirmed previously or since or whether people just presume because of the username. 😂

DustinsHat · 16/08/2022 10:16

'Where are men suppposed to post if they're having problems in their marriage? Would you rather they posted on some macho board where everyone will tell them that their wife is a bitch, they should get rid, and find all ways possible not to apay for their kids? Or on here, where they might get some insight into how they can put their relationship on a more even keel and get a female perspective? Surely we should be applauding the latter approach instead of sneering at them??'

So, men are such emotionally incontinent dicks that you don't want to talk to them, but you want them all to inflict themselves on us instead?

Sparklingbrook · 16/08/2022 10:19

Is PigletJohn a plumber or builder or something? How did they become the oracle on DIY in the first place?

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 16/08/2022 10:22

Calabria1985 · 15/08/2022 22:36

I just want to say to all the wonderful females who post on here ....i respect and love you all!Even though the majority hate men.I love reading the different topics and reading a womans point of view..keep it up ladies!

...'ladies....' Urgh! 😫

TenoringBehind · 16/08/2022 10:23

I remember a thread years ago where it was confirmed that PJ was a man.

PlantFaced · 16/08/2022 10:23

Sparklingbrook · 16/08/2022 10:19

Is PigletJohn a plumber or builder or something? How did they become the oracle on DIY in the first place?

I like that PJ is seemingly shrouded in mystery. Male or female? How do they know about everything DIY?

PJ saves the day and disappears again. Like a DIY superhero. 🤣

Dotjones · 16/08/2022 10:24

The logo of the site has the phrase "by parents for parents" - not "by women for women". Men are allowed to post here, provided they are fathers. It's people who are not parents that I have a problem with, some of them aren't even trying to be parents.

But even then, if the site allows non-parents to join then it's up to me whether I tolerate them or not visit the site.

If you don't like something, don't engage with it and go and find or create something you do like.

Sparklingbrook · 16/08/2022 10:25

PlantFaced · 16/08/2022 10:23

I like that PJ is seemingly shrouded in mystery. Male or female? How do they know about everything DIY?

PJ saves the day and disappears again. Like a DIY superhero. 🤣

I never ever see PJ so I’m guessing I’m not in the right topics. I just hear the name a lot when these threads about men come up as indication there are good men on here. 😂

Grumpusaurus · 16/08/2022 10:30

Just having spotted a thread started by a disgustingly self-centred, entitled guy, I could not agree more! My eyes roll hard entirely involuntarily when I read long, self-absorbed, faux self-deprecating, woe-is-me posts by men here. Oh do fuck off to one of the Incel groups where you seem to fit much better because your resentment just below the surface is rather obvious...

Supersee · 16/08/2022 10:32

Dotjones · 16/08/2022 10:24

The logo of the site has the phrase "by parents for parents" - not "by women for women". Men are allowed to post here, provided they are fathers. It's people who are not parents that I have a problem with, some of them aren't even trying to be parents.

But even then, if the site allows non-parents to join then it's up to me whether I tolerate them or not visit the site.

If you don't like something, don't engage with it and go and find or create something you do like.

You do realise that the vast majority of discussion topics have nothing to do with parenting yes?

Teddletime · 16/08/2022 10:34

I saw a post by Piglet John on one of the many threads complaining about having men on here and he contributed as a man.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 16/08/2022 10:41

Calabria1985 · 15/08/2022 23:24

Im a man but woman bloody rule..ok

🙄

waterlego · 16/08/2022 10:44

I don’t have a problem with non-parents posting here. It seems rather cruel to be unwelcoming to people who in many cases really wanted to be parents but didn’t get the chance.

I do find it a little bit harder to understand people choosing to hang out here who are child free by choice, especially those who really seem to dislike children. But then there are loads of topics discussed here that have nothing to do with parenting, so I guess that is going to attract all sorts of people.

It’s not for me to say who can post anywhere, but I do like that it is a predominantly female forum.

DisplayPurposesOnly · 16/08/2022 10:57

I never realised how many on here were against non-parents posting.

<Carrying on regardless>

BEAM123 · 16/08/2022 10:57

SammyScrounge · 15/08/2022 22:47

Oh my!

Well I am very definitely a woman from birth (and a mum /grandmother) and I got

"Verdict: Weak MALE

Weak emphasis could indicate European."

Not especially surprised as I'm not especially feminine in the way my brain works but.....
What do they mean by "weak emphasis could mean European"?!

Are European men considered less masculine? 😂

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 16/08/2022 11:03

CruCru · 16/08/2022 09:19

Also (sorry), it’s quite possible that many people on here are not who they claim to be. I’m suspicious of anyone who claims they went to “Oxbridge” because the people I know in real life who went to either Oxford or Cambridge say that (they’re massive universities, it can’t be that identifying) or even “College”. I’m also a bit suspicious of people who claim to be extremely rich or high earning - some will be but not all.

It’s not the one piece of information that identifies you, it’s putting a lot of little pieces together. I would never specify which college I went to, for that reason. Nor would I give my exact age or exact ages of family members etc.

My college had under 100 women in my year. If people knew my age, college and a few other bits of info I have shared on here, someone could easily identify me.

HopeMumsnet · 16/08/2022 11:06

Hi all,
We're about to go through the thread now to remove some personal attacks and posts that we don't consider to be in the spirit of the site.
We really do welcome input from everyone, including parents, non-parents, would-be and wouldn't-be parents and we are famous for our robust and wide-ranging discussions but we must insist that everyone sticks to the guidelines.

PollyRockets · 16/08/2022 11:11

HopeMumsnet · 16/08/2022 11:06

Hi all,
We're about to go through the thread now to remove some personal attacks and posts that we don't consider to be in the spirit of the site.
We really do welcome input from everyone, including parents, non-parents, would-be and wouldn't-be parents and we are famous for our robust and wide-ranging discussions but we must insist that everyone sticks to the guidelines.

Why not remove the entire post

Since it's sole goal was to make male posters feel shit for participating

umpaumpajumps · 16/08/2022 11:13

PollyRockets · 16/08/2022 11:11

Why not remove the entire post

Since it's sole goal was to make male posters feel shit for participating

100% agree!

cstaff · 16/08/2022 11:14

I am a childless woman in my fifties and I only came across this about 5 years ago when I was sent a very funny bridezilla thread that had me laughing for days. It was only then that I started to read mn regularly. There are plenty of threads that have nothing to do with parenthood which I find interesting and feel comfortable commenting on. Some of the remarks on here about it only being for mums is very off-putting tbh.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 16/08/2022 11:26

Sparklingbrook · 16/08/2022 07:14

I agree that the men posting in the Sex Topic falling over themselves to give advice, while also sharing in great detail what their DW enjoys or lamenting about what they sadly don’t is a bit ewww.
Also I agree that there’s men on here probably pretending to be women.
I am not that interested in a specifically male perspective, do the men on here think we don’t have husbands fathers, brothers, friends and sons for that? Some behave as if the poor women in here don’t know a male in RL.

Agree with this. It's the way (some) men come on here talking to us as if we have no man in real life to ask/talk to. And as if we don't know stuff ourselves anyway! Confused

What made me LOL, and cringe a bit, is when a poster said (further back,) that there are a couple of men who are helpful with law and property. As if WOMEN couldn't be. LMFAO!

HRTQueen · 16/08/2022 11:31

the comment I hope all the lovely guys are not driven away 🙄 yes women should always considered how men feel before we give our opinion

if they are lovely they won’t be bothered about posters calling out creeps or patronising tossers as it doesn’t apply to them if they are that way then their egos are a little bruised boohoo