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To say DS cannot cosplay

109 replies

vectorismyname · 10/08/2022 15:27

DS 14 wants to cosplay anime and I said no. My reason is I’ve seen it used as a kink in porn and people find it sexy. Hes very upset so AIBU?

OP posts:
gezzab33 · 10/08/2022 16:56

My daughter cos played for years and had a great time. The only problem was the creepy men at Comic Con every year. They would touch up the younger girls while in costume themselves so you couldn't identify them. It was gross and eventually stopped her going.

BiscuitLover3678 · 10/08/2022 16:56

Anime is a huge range of genres and shows. It’s not all sexual and inappropriate. I personally think Yabu!

BiscuitLover3678 · 10/08/2022 16:58

GoldenSongbird · 10/08/2022 16:47

OP didn't comment about anime. They mentioned some of the cosplaying and other communities around it. There are so many strawmen on this thread it's like Family of Blood.
Fwiw my teen is an anime fan. They laughed a lot when I told them about posters on here pretending it's all innocent and light.
Maybe those posters don't have teens and that's why they're unaware of the problematic fandoms, cosplaying and online communities around older anime. And yy we've been to conventions.

Yes there are inappropriate elements to it but that’s the same with everything! The Harry Potter fandom was the same. It’s called the internet. 😂

BiscuitLover3678 · 10/08/2022 16:59

It’s like saying him wanting to dress up as a simpsons character is poragraphic 🙄

Siepie · 10/08/2022 17:03

Miffee · 10/08/2022 16:36

The implication that suspicion of anime is rooted in baseless misconceptions about Japanese culture. That's what I inferred from you calling people racist.

Many US states still allow child marriage (9 have no minimum age), so I assume you also ban your children from all American media?

BertieBotts · 10/08/2022 17:04

I think cosplay eventually turns people into adult babies

Yes that well known gateway kink, cosplay Grin

I think people who dress up as adult babies (bleurgh) probably have adult baby fetishes.... whether such a person is also interested in cosplay (or any other normal hobby) is incidental. Cosplay is neither related to babies nor fetish. It's just a kind of roleplay - like LARP but a different theme, or if you like, a socially acceptable way to continue fancy dress past childhood. Or adults/teens enjoying the spectacle of "meeting" characters at Disneyland.

Mostly IME something that appeals to people who go to comic or gaming conventions. Occasionally other fandoms e.g. Harry Potter. Not my thing. But friends who do it seem to get great enjoyment from all the selecting a character, preparing the costume (often hand-making parts) and then going and "meeting" characters from their game worlds, interacting with others in and out of character, etc.

I think it's a bit mean to ban a teenager from doing it. It's all harmless fun. And something it's harder to find the time, budget and energy for once you're working full time/have a family etc.

BertieBotts · 10/08/2022 17:07

Somehow I stumbled across a Harry Potter fan fic that was a story about hagrid having sex with mcgonagall. Not something personally I would find sexy but each to their own.

You think that's bad, try Dobby x Sorting Hat Confused

GoldenSongbird · 10/08/2022 17:08

No-one said every anime fandom space was toxic. But there are issues with certain sections of the fandom and as a parent it would be remiss not to discuss or address those. It's not about putting your hands up and saying 'oh that's just the internet'. If we were all that lax then none of us would have parental controls. Plus cosplaying happens in RL not on the internet. Hmm

Anime isn't the only fandom with problematic elements. But it's the one that this thread is about.

DarkShade · 10/08/2022 17:10

Assuming this is good faith, YABU. People will find a kink in anything.

Scrapologist · 10/08/2022 17:11

You need more information. Have him show you which character he wants to cosplay. Research it on your own, if you're worried he's showing you a sanitised version (though surely you'll see the costume while he's preparing it and have many opportunities to weigh in).

It might be entirely innocent, and there's no sense in alienating him by forbidding him to do something harmless. Show him that you're reasonable so he won't be tempted to start hiding things from you, where you won't have a chance to monitor and advise.

Miffee · 10/08/2022 17:13

Siepie · 10/08/2022 17:03

Many US states still allow child marriage (9 have no minimum age), so I assume you also ban your children from all American media?

I haven't ever actively banned any media. I kind of banned Disney in the sense I didn't buy it or put it on for them but they never asked.

I am incredibly permissive. My youngest loves anime and watched it all the time.

I still think it's a gateway to degeneracy.

Snaketime · 10/08/2022 17:18

It really depends on what anime he wants to cosplay. I mean Pokemon is anime.

Skiingwithgin · 10/08/2022 17:20

Omg haha, I absolutely mean Hentai! No idea why I used Manga! I blame baby brain! Muppet!

Lockheart · 10/08/2022 17:25

Skiingwithgin · 10/08/2022 15:44

I think you’re confusing anime with manga which is porn drawn in the style of anime Ie Japanese cartoon.
the two aren’t related.

but you’re within your rights to say no for whatever reason.

Manga is not porn.

Manga is like a graphic novel (as in drawn / illustrated, not sexually graphic) or comic. I have a few manga novels and none of them are remotely pornographic.

Anime is an animated cartoon / TV programme.

They are types of media.

They can be pornographic in the same way that any drawings or animation can be used to produce pornographic content.

pointythings · 10/08/2022 17:25

I still think it's a gateway to degeneracy.

The way you get around that is by talking to your DC openly about these and many other things. Not by banning stuff you know nothing about.

And of course one person's 'degeneracy' is another person's loving and consensual life, which just happens to be not vanilla.

Lockheart · 10/08/2022 17:25

Skiingwithgin · 10/08/2022 17:20

Omg haha, I absolutely mean Hentai! No idea why I used Manga! I blame baby brain! Muppet!

Sorry, I cross posted with you!

OldFan · 10/08/2022 17:25

'Rule34 '- there's porn for anything that exists.

This doesn't mean anime isn't appropriate for teens- plenty of them are into it wholesomely.

Of course they'd have to be cautious of adults, just like they would anywhere they go.

It's more the female characters who are sexualized by a few pervs of course, less so the boys.

category12 · 10/08/2022 18:37

Surely it should be Rule 69 ?

Miffee · 10/08/2022 18:43

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BunnyHopDance · 10/08/2022 18:45

YABVU. It is not designed to be a kink.

Some people use spoons in sex. Should he not use a spoon? What about vegetables? Or hair brushes?

pointythings · 10/08/2022 18:55

@Miffee have you ever watched any anime? I have, DD2 is into it - specifically the sports anime. And honestly, there's nothing as unsexy as watching animated volleyball matches. They really aren't a gateway into anything. You seem a bit obsessed, love.

Same with Studio Ghibli's output - have you actually watched any of it? High quality storytelling, beautiful animation, absolutely suitable for children and young people.

Not all anime is the same, and to pretend it is shows a limited intellect.

Needmorelego · 10/08/2022 18:56

@Miffee I didn't call anyone racist. I think you must have confused me with a different poster.

category12 · 10/08/2022 19:05

Needmorelego · 10/08/2022 18:56

@Miffee I didn't call anyone racist. I think you must have confused me with a different poster.

That's probably me - I said a post about Japanese cartoon culture being paedophiliac was racist. I stand by the comment. There's some great wholesome Japanese anime.

It's not like any culture is free of its dark sides

drbuzzaro · 10/08/2022 19:10

Miffee · 10/08/2022 15:28

YANBU I have very irrational strong views on anime. The overall aesthetic is just a giant red flag.

yeah pikachu is dodgy af

mimbleandlittlemy · 10/08/2022 19:23

I am old enough to remember Marine Boy. After this thread I am looking back on his relationship with the mermaid and the dolphin in a whole new way.