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Refusing to pay back my "friends " mum money I owe aibu?

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bradtit · 10/08/2022 14:32

6 months ago I borrowed a friend £300 and they promised to pay me back.
I didn't pressure them and mentioned it after 5 months ..to be told "I can't right now"
This person now has plenty of money(I won't go into detail how but she does)
She said she would give me them on her pay day (28th )
Pay day came and went and she didn't give me a penny and said she would have to take it from the kids school uniform money and did I want her to do it.
Whilst the day before uploading pics of new trainers she bought herself and designer glasses.

We bought concert tickets and she put them on her mums credit card £100 in June.
I said great il pay on my pay day.
My pay day came and she asked for the £100
I was fuming and said "just take it out of the £300 you owe me and just give me £200

All hell broke loose calling me a thief and told her mum I was refusing to pay her
Writing all over Facebook how you can't trust anyone blah blah

Aibu ?

OP posts:
NippyWoowoo · 10/08/2022 20:08

ChagSameachDoreen · 10/08/2022 15:12

You borrowed, or you lent? Your first sentence is unclear.

and you couldn’t understand by reading the other sentences? Bless you

DanceItOut · 10/08/2022 20:13

I would offer to speak to the mother directly about the issue and check that it is actually her out of pocket firstly, secondly just make clear that the reason there was an issue paying her back is because her daughter borrowed £300 from you 6 months ago and seems to be able to buy things like trainers and presumably concert tickets but can’t pay you back not even £50 per month or something. If it is genuinely the mother out of pocket then I would say pay her back the £100 and end friendship with the person owing you £300 because you’ll never see it back.

autienotnaughty · 10/08/2022 20:49

bradtit · 10/08/2022 14:44

It's the fact it was meant to be a month
Then it was 3 months
Then pay day
Then pay day comes and she says she can't afford it but buying trainers etc etc
I can't even be certain if it was her mums credit card (that's just what she told me )
It could of been hers
I don't have a clue
It's just not fair I'm giving her £100 when she owes me £300

I think u did the right thing and this person is not your friend.

70billionthnamechange · 11/08/2022 07:00

"Gentle reminder " 😂😂😂😂😂 I guess that's a reminder to us all that we are still surrounded by *"@&s . Not you OP, the ones who absolutely HAVE to correct even if it makes them look like hideous beasts.

Aprilx · 11/08/2022 07:40

Kanaloa · 10/08/2022 15:13

Plenty of people say it. It’s a common phrase in lots of parts of the UK. Some people are just very snotty and love to try to look clever but they just end up looking stupid and small minded.

I get why you’d want to pay it. But I also get why you did what you did. It’s tricky. The ideal would have been if your friend had been a bit more reasonable and you could have agreed how/when she’d repay you, but she’s obviously not going to be a decent person about it. Which is a shame.

In what part of the UK is it normal to switch the meaning of the words borrowed and lent? I have honestly never heard this before. I know people pronounce “bath” differently and have different words for bread rolls, but to actually switch the meaning of two opposite words because they are from a particular part of the UK is not something I have heard of as a thing. Are there any other words that mean the opposite of the standard dictionary definition in certain parts of the country?

And it was important to the thread, because there is borrowing and lending going on both ways and helps to clarify which way round things are, I wasn’t sure what OP meant initially either. So it wasn’t really a grammatical error, it was a factual error.

wellhelloitsme · 11/08/2022 07:48

And it was important to the thread, because there is borrowing and lending going on both ways and helps to clarify which way round things are, I wasn’t sure what OP meant initially either.

Happily OP's first post wasn't just the single sentence using borrow instead of lend though, was it?

So you absolutely would have understood exactly what she meant if you read the full post. She gave ample context to make it clear.

If you still didn't understand, then your reading comprehension is very poor.

x2boys · 11/08/2022 09:18

Aprilx · 11/08/2022 07:40

In what part of the UK is it normal to switch the meaning of the words borrowed and lent? I have honestly never heard this before. I know people pronounce “bath” differently and have different words for bread rolls, but to actually switch the meaning of two opposite words because they are from a particular part of the UK is not something I have heard of as a thing. Are there any other words that mean the opposite of the standard dictionary definition in certain parts of the country?

And it was important to the thread, because there is borrowing and lending going on both ways and helps to clarify which way round things are, I wasn’t sure what OP meant initially either. So it wasn’t really a grammatical error, it was a factual error.

Certainly in my part of the Northwest people will say things like " can you borrow me a fiver" .I don't as I realise it's not grammatically correct ,but I wouldn't point it out either as 1 ,I'm not a dick.
2 I realise my own spelling and grammar isn't the best either .
However I think it was quite obvious what the Op meant ,and I'm loving the fact it's backfired on all the twats who have tried to correct her with their own mistakes.

Pumperthepumper · 11/08/2022 09:24

Aprilx · 11/08/2022 07:40

In what part of the UK is it normal to switch the meaning of the words borrowed and lent? I have honestly never heard this before. I know people pronounce “bath” differently and have different words for bread rolls, but to actually switch the meaning of two opposite words because they are from a particular part of the UK is not something I have heard of as a thing. Are there any other words that mean the opposite of the standard dictionary definition in certain parts of the country?

And it was important to the thread, because there is borrowing and lending going on both ways and helps to clarify which way round things are, I wasn’t sure what OP meant initially either. So it wasn’t really a grammatical error, it was a factual error.

There’s loads - the first one that springs to mind is ‘give it me’ meaning ‘give me it’, which is hugely common in parts of England. In Glasgow ‘amur’ is not uncommon, literally ‘I’m are’ but actually meaning ‘I am’. I’m sure I can think of more if I put my mind to it.

Wetblanket78 · 11/08/2022 10:03

She's guilt tripping you tell her you need your money back for xyz.

Do you have any way of contacting her mum to see if she is telling the truth about paying on her mum's cc. Her mum might just give her a kick up the backside.

zingally · 11/08/2022 10:13

Contact the mum directly and ask for her bank details so you can send her the money direct, or put £100 in an envelope and put it through her door. Either way, don't hand it to the "friend".

Then take the "friend" to small claims court.

Either way, you lose the money and keep the friend, or you get the money and lose the friend. I can't see any circumstances where you come out with both unfortunately.

AhNowTed · 11/08/2022 10:15

YANBU. Not at all.

And she is no friend.

NippyWoowoo · 11/08/2022 10:52

Aprilx · 11/08/2022 07:40

In what part of the UK is it normal to switch the meaning of the words borrowed and lent? I have honestly never heard this before. I know people pronounce “bath” differently and have different words for bread rolls, but to actually switch the meaning of two opposite words because they are from a particular part of the UK is not something I have heard of as a thing. Are there any other words that mean the opposite of the standard dictionary definition in certain parts of the country?

And it was important to the thread, because there is borrowing and lending going on both ways and helps to clarify which way round things are, I wasn’t sure what OP meant initially either. So it wasn’t really a grammatical error, it was a factual error.

Ah yes, the old ‘I’ve never heard of it, therefore it’s not true’ argument.

wellhelloitsme · 11/08/2022 11:07

I'm surprised you wanted to go to an event with her after she'd taken the piss so much with the money you previously lent her that she never paid back!

It's not your fault that she got her mum to pay on her card. You don't owe her mum money, she does. And while that's shit for her mum, it's not fair for you have to pay it when your 'friend' still owes you triple the amount.

Didn't you ask her at the time what she was playing at planning to go to a £100 even when she said she didn't have any money to repay what you loaned her?!

Suewoo · 11/08/2022 17:47

As my Dad told me and i've stuck to it... 'never a lender nor a borrower be' - may be a Scottish proverb but makes sense!

Chocolatehamper · 11/08/2022 17:47

ellyoctober · 10/08/2022 14:47

Grinning at PP correcting borrow to leant.

This! 🤣

PerfectRun · 11/08/2022 17:50

Suewoo · 11/08/2022 17:47

As my Dad told me and i've stuck to it... 'never a lender nor a borrower be' - may be a Scottish proverb but makes sense!

It's Shakespeare 😆

redgirl1 · 11/08/2022 17:54

Urgh grammar police.

i would contact her mum direct, I assume you can do so via Facebook and say you are sorry you didn’t mean to put her in an awkward situation and you realise the money her daughter owes you has nothing to do with her . You thought she was imminently paying you back and so there would be no drama. Ask for her bank details pay her direct.
You can’t be sure cf friend won’t hold on to the money longer than she should. say to friend it’s sorted sorry for drama but when are you paying me back, suggest £100pcm if it will be easier.

WelliesandWine88 · 11/08/2022 18:03

None of this is her mum's issue...you and friend both come off horribly here!

CrappyJob · 11/08/2022 18:03

Writing all over Facebook how you can't trust anyone blah blah

I would be tempted reply
'I know what you mean. I lent a friend £300 a few months ago, and they said they would pay me back on payday. I'm still waiting, but they have been showing off their new trainers and designer glasses on Facebook'.

Kanaloa · 11/08/2022 18:05

@Aprilx

Where I live now, in Lancashire, it’s quite normal to say ‘I borrowed the paddling pool to Sarah.’ Most people would use the correct words in written or formal communication. I’m sorry you struggled to comprehend the op. Most of us managed to understand it though - contextual reading is tricky but if you keep trying you’ll crack it eventually.

fatchilli123 · 11/08/2022 18:07

Go round and give the £100 to the mother direct . If you have emails or texts about that money make sure you take screen shots and go to small claims court . This costs 35£. Inform her in writing and give her 7days to pay up and then file a claim with small claims with the screen shots as evidence .

Kanaloa · 11/08/2022 18:09

Pumperthepumper · 11/08/2022 09:24

There’s loads - the first one that springs to mind is ‘give it me’ meaning ‘give me it’, which is hugely common in parts of England. In Glasgow ‘amur’ is not uncommon, literally ‘I’m are’ but actually meaning ‘I am’. I’m sure I can think of more if I put my mind to it.

A bit different but it’s also common where I am to say ‘led down.’ So something like ‘oh it was boiling today so I just went and led down upstairs.’ Of course it doesn’t mean anyone led you anywhere, but contextually most people understand that it means you went for a lie down. Also ‘stop’ to mean ‘stay.’ So ‘I’m stopping here’ to mean you are staying over. Where my relatives in the US live they will say ‘spend a night’ to mean stay over, it almost sounds like one word, so they’ll say ‘my friend will spendanight.’

It must be so sad to really think the only thing that exists is your little world. Dialect and regional language is fascinating and gives the country (and the world) so much flavour and character.

HerbertChops · 11/08/2022 18:12

Tell her you can’t afford to repay the £100 until she’s returned your £300. Once she’s paid you back you can pay her mum back.

abblie · 11/08/2022 18:13

Sorry her mother is nor in debt to you... this us why I never loan anyone e money

Madamum18 · 11/08/2022 18:15

Nope not unreasonable at all apart from having her as a friend!! She is taking the P*

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