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Refusing to pay back my "friends " mum money I owe aibu?

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bradtit · 10/08/2022 14:32

6 months ago I borrowed a friend £300 and they promised to pay me back.
I didn't pressure them and mentioned it after 5 months ..to be told "I can't right now"
This person now has plenty of money(I won't go into detail how but she does)
She said she would give me them on her pay day (28th )
Pay day came and went and she didn't give me a penny and said she would have to take it from the kids school uniform money and did I want her to do it.
Whilst the day before uploading pics of new trainers she bought herself and designer glasses.

We bought concert tickets and she put them on her mums credit card £100 in June.
I said great il pay on my pay day.
My pay day came and she asked for the £100
I was fuming and said "just take it out of the £300 you owe me and just give me £200

All hell broke loose calling me a thief and told her mum I was refusing to pay her
Writing all over Facebook how you can't trust anyone blah blah

Aibu ?

OP posts:
Pumperthepumper · 10/08/2022 18:18

SirGawain · 10/08/2022 15:01

Grammer Police alert!

You lent £300 to your friend. She borrowed £300 from you.

Grammar.

LoisLane66 · 10/08/2022 18:25

OP. Just a gentle reminder that borrow is something you ask if you may have from someone else for a given length of time.
Lend is when you give something for a particular length of time but expect it back.
So ..your friend borrowed 300 from you.
You lent 300 to your friend.
She asked if she could borrow 300
You agreed to lend her 300 😁

Goldpaw · 10/08/2022 18:27

Kanaloa · 10/08/2022 15:05

Yes, the meaning is entirely obvious from the op. Some people think they look really clever when they correct others but I think the opposite - it shows a lot of ignorance I think. Ignorance of regional uses of words/language, ignorance of other people’s situations and how not everyone has had the opportunities you’ve had and so on.

I agree about correcting people being ignorant, not sure about the connotations regarding using regional words being an indication of not having had "opportunities" in life.

It's just snobbery to think your way of speaking/writing is the correct way and correcting anyone you think is "wrong".

crosstalk · 10/08/2022 18:27

As PPS have said, check she actually used her mum's credit card for the ticket. Talk to her mum - and pay her back directly. I'd be advertising the ticket myself.

Pumperthepumper · 10/08/2022 18:27

LoisLane66 · 10/08/2022 18:25

OP. Just a gentle reminder that borrow is something you ask if you may have from someone else for a given length of time.
Lend is when you give something for a particular length of time but expect it back.
So ..your friend borrowed 300 from you.
You lent 300 to your friend.
She asked if she could borrow 300
You agreed to lend her 300 😁

Just a gentle reminder that your sentence structure is terrible. Try to be more clear in your written work. You have written ‘borrow is something you ask if you may have from someone else for a given length of time’ which is clumsy and poorly formed.

x2boys · 10/08/2022 18:28

LoisLane66 · 10/08/2022 18:25

OP. Just a gentle reminder that borrow is something you ask if you may have from someone else for a given length of time.
Lend is when you give something for a particular length of time but expect it back.
So ..your friend borrowed 300 from you.
You lent 300 to your friend.
She asked if she could borrow 300
You agreed to lend her 300 😁

Rtft ,this has needlessly been pointed out quite a few times now 🙄

whynotwhatknot · 10/08/2022 18:30

if it really is her mums card then pay her mum

when she said do you want me to use the kids unfirm money i would have said yes please-this person isnt your friend

Skodacool · 10/08/2022 18:32

You leant money to a friend. You didn't borrow it to her

This was my first thought.

Kanaloa · 10/08/2022 18:32

Goldpaw · 10/08/2022 18:27

I agree about correcting people being ignorant, not sure about the connotations regarding using regional words being an indication of not having had "opportunities" in life.

It's just snobbery to think your way of speaking/writing is the correct way and correcting anyone you think is "wrong".

It was another option. So they may be ignorant of regional differences, but correcting someone’s spelling or grammar is also ignorant because you don’t know about what opportunities they’ve had or how difficult they may find writing and spag. These are all little things we should think about when we snottily correct someone.

Pumperthepumper · 10/08/2022 18:33

Also, people only do it to be arseholes. Otherwise they’d PM the OP with their ‘gentle reminders’.

Kanaloa · 10/08/2022 18:34

So I wasn’t saying using regional dialect is indicative of not having had opportunities. I was saying someone might use different or ‘incorrect’ spag either because of regional differences or because they may not have had the educational opportunities to be aware of correct spag. Or they may have difficulties that make written language difficult. And that either way it’s a dick move to point it out and think you look clever over it.

x2boys · 10/08/2022 18:35

Pumperthepumper · 10/08/2022 18:27

Just a gentle reminder that your sentence structure is terrible. Try to be more clear in your written work. You have written ‘borrow is something you ask if you may have from someone else for a given length of time’ which is clumsy and poorly formed.

🤣🤣🤣 love this!

ImAvingOops · 10/08/2022 18:37

I haven't read the whole thread but you'd be a total mug to give her back the £100. Post on Facebook that she can pay it back to her mum out of the £300 she owes you! Don't allow her to publicly complain about you on line with no come back!

Lazybedhead · 10/08/2022 18:37

Tell her Mum that her daughter owes her the money as she owed you £300 and not paid it back.

LoisLane66 · 10/08/2022 18:39

Never borrow, never lend - not to family friends or acquaintances. Never buy tickets for a group outing and expect prompt payment from people who say they'll go.
Never pay with your card for a group meal and expect payment from the rest. Never spit the bill equally if you're not a big drinker and only had a starter. Take cash and just pay your share or transfer your share by phone to the bill payer.
Keep to those guidelines and you'll never be in an awkward standoff again.
With your scenario, let everyone know the bones of the story and tell your friend and her mum that if she continues to distort the truth then you'll take it further to recoup your money.
You don't need 'friends' like that.

FlakeSnow · 10/08/2022 18:46

Tell her that you can’t afford to pay the mum until she pays you.

Or tell the mum you were banking on her giving the money back in order to be pay back the mum.

LoisLane66 · 10/08/2022 18:46

'Friend' SAID she would use her mum's card but do you actually know that she did? Maybe she said that knowing that you'd feel obliged to pay because if she said it was on HER card and she owes you 300, she couldn't really ask for the 100.
Have you any proof that she asked to borrow 300 and that she'd pay it back? Texts?

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/08/2022 18:55

And I worked out what @bradtit meant in her op

LoisLane66 · 10/08/2022 18:56

@Skodacool
Actually, the word is lent.
The past tense of to lean is leaned. I leaned on the school gate as I was out of breath.
Saying borrowed instead of lend/lent is nothing to do with dialect or colloquialism. It's a misunderstanding of English language the same as 'I done' instead of 'I did' etc.

AMIAMIBU · 10/08/2022 18:58

LoisLane66 · 10/08/2022 18:25

OP. Just a gentle reminder that borrow is something you ask if you may have from someone else for a given length of time.
Lend is when you give something for a particular length of time but expect it back.
So ..your friend borrowed 300 from you.
You lent 300 to your friend.
She asked if she could borrow 300
You agreed to lend her 300 😁

With sentence structure like that, I cannot believe you're correct OP!

Just a gentle reminder if you read even half if the thread you'll see that OPs error has been pointed out several times.

Pumperthepumper · 10/08/2022 19:07

LoisLane66 · 10/08/2022 18:56

@Skodacool
Actually, the word is lent.
The past tense of to lean is leaned. I leaned on the school gate as I was out of breath.
Saying borrowed instead of lend/lent is nothing to do with dialect or colloquialism. It's a misunderstanding of English language the same as 'I done' instead of 'I did' etc.

You’re wrong: it is a colloquialism, as is ‘I done’.

mam0918 · 10/08/2022 19:11

Lend money to a friend and you lose both money and a friend.

Dont lend money to a friend and all you lose is the friend.

GinIronic · 10/08/2022 19:23

Do we know anything about the concert?

Mumtofourandnomore · 10/08/2022 19:24

My advice - suggest meeting up with her. Tell her to bring:

  1. Her mum
  2. The concert ticket
  3. £300
  4. £100
She can hand over the concert ticket and £300, and you can hand over £100, and if she feels inclined, she can give it to her mum.

Job done. And if she doesn’t want to meet, take her to court for the £300, and forget the concert - she can sell the ticket elsewhere if she’s wants her (or her mum’s !) money back.

MsFogi · 10/08/2022 19:29

Lazybedhead · 10/08/2022 18:37

Tell her Mum that her daughter owes her the money as she owed you £300 and not paid it back.

This!

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