Do beautiful women realize that ugly women are treated very differently?

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My friend (who is very beautiful) got into a relationship not so long ago and said how she hopes I’ll be soon in one too - she knows I’d like a relationship also.
Well, few days ago she was telling me to just go to a bar and get chatted up with men, it won’t be long etc. and I’d just had to laugh, and asked her does she remember any man to ever have done that before and why would is sudenly have changed.
I think I accidentally made things akward because she went really quiet.
She pretty much can go anywhere and men will start up conversation or get asked out.

And this made me think if she genuinely thought we all have the same opportunities?

Oh come on. Don't jump the shark that soon.

Leave Roald Dahl alone bitters! This is an example of bad attitude not making you more attractive!

That really is nonsense. You are trying to say no one who is lauded for their beauty has ever expressed dislike of a famous person's attitudes on the internet?

Next time a random man in the street calls me ugly, I'll start gushing about how wonderful Roald Dahl is. I'm sure that will change his mind.

Don't fall for it...

what an odd comment

@Passedmybedtime

And the caterpillar eyebrows that look masculine as hell! So so so uggo. When I see teen girls with that I’m just staring at them like, do you know what’s on your forehead right now?

Oh, Sue34. You've gone in too hard, too soon. Next time, pace yourself more.

@SizzlerFizzler

Well people keep bringing up Kathy Burke as some famous figure. She barely is.

Your previous post about how to make women more attractive sounded very bitter and rude towards women. Sounds like something a man would trot out, the type who probably doesn't have much success himself.

I heed your advice, Rene, thank you. Best to ignore.

I have experienced it from both sides. I used to get a lot of attention in my late teens and early 20's. I was sexually abused though and had enough of being used for sex. So it wasn't always welcome. I'm not 43 and age hasn't been kind and do get the odd who let the dog's out.

@spongbob Ok? That’s nice but it’s hardly rude to suggest staying in shape and dressing well attracts more men than not. I just wonder if those calling themselves ugly actually make the effort of if they just decide their ugly and develop the style to match.

The irony is that that song is about men who objectify and treat women like shit. They're the dogs it's referring to.

Post a picture of yourself for inspiration then? I don't think anyone actually asked for your sniping advice tbf

I'm average and have never really been chatted up regularly. However I think pretty women get hassled more & also don't think that they get treated better in a relationship. Some of the stories of men who are coercive and controlling are when they have an attractive partner. Men also still cheat on pretty girls.

@spongbob

Im not trying to brag on my looks. The point Im making is that if you put the effort in there is a lot you can do to make yourself attractive and in time the effort will become routine. I understand that may be harder for women with low self esteem to do because they may never have started (because of the low self esteem) when younger, but I think the idea of them being “ugly” to the point of no normal men (in their age range) being attracted no matter what they do is very unlikely. Very few people are that ugly and if they are it’s usually because they have let themselves become obese, which again effort can counter.

Its like look at what Rebel Wilson used to look like and look at her now! She’s like a different person and it’s all down to her making the effort to be attractive. The people saying they can’t do it can! You can be attractive if you believe in yourself and have a good attitude!

Men are hugely into a woman’s figure so - whilst being conventionally pretty is a matter of luck - you can make a big difference to your body if you make the effort and dress to maximise your best bits. They’re also into clothing/shoes so you can make that work for you too by avoiding frumpy styles. And personality goes a long way - in my experience it’s probably about 75% of it.

@Siameasy

This 100%

I think those who don’t believe it have fallen into a funk and don’t want to try to be attractive because it’s comfortable for them to believe they can’t suceed.

By being told they are wrong. As long as they lose weight, wear make up and have good self esteem then they will no longer be treated as ugly.

This exactly!

I think the people saying it’s about self-esteem or posture may want to believe that.
Makes them feel more in control perhaps.

of course she's famous in the UK. but do let us know what level of fame is required before a person can be mentioned as an example of x y or z.

Self esteem doesn't mean believing you're beautiful. Looks are probably a bad thing to hang your self esteem on.

Self esteem is about valuing yourself for who you are, right now.

I don't know if it makes you more attractive objectively, but it will certainly help in weeding out arseholes.

I was the one who mentioned Kathy Burke.
I would never mention anyone who had not said this about themselves. That would be a horrible thing to do.

Unfortunately the defeatist attitude is not attractive. It’s easy to be negative and far harder to be positive. Life can be tough sometimes and it certainly isn’t fair at all but you can elevate your attractiveness significantly if you have warmth and friendliness about you.

"That taught me a huge lesson about the transactional basis of 'pretty privilege'." This is one of the truest statements I've ever read.

And does that stop groups of men shouting insults at you on the street?