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Haunted house scaring the shit out of me

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Goawayghosts · 31/07/2022 22:23

Deliberately OTT title and I’m not into the paranormal but I’m getting freaked out in my house.

We’ve lived here 10 years. The house is only 20 years old. Built on marsh land.

A year or so after we moved in weird shit started happening. Stuff moving around, noises, dog going nuts in certain rooms, doors opening by themselves etc. DH got freaked out by it and started getting angry at me everytime I mentioned it. He outright refused to discuss it but admitted he had seen and heard the same stuff as me.

Then it all stopped. Nothing happened for years. All good.

Then, a couple of weeks ago I was messing on my phone and behind me I saw a shadow go past in the hallway out of the corner of my eye and heard it brush along the wall. The dog (different dog) flew over me barking and growling, all heckles raised. Back door was locked, there was no way anyone could have got in without me (or the dog) hearing the front door. I sent the dog around the whole house - nothing at all. I put it to the back of my mind but ever since the noises have started up again - footsteps on the first floor, doors opening and closing, muffled voices

DH has heard it too and is laughing it off saying the ghost is back but he too is randomly sending the dog into rooms and upstairs before him and telling me not to be stupid when I mention it. It’s seriously starting to freak me out.

It happened again 10 minutes ago … the sound of the floorboards creaking upstairs in the pattern of footsteps - DH looked up and muted the TV - then the sound of something being moved. I said “You’re not telling me you didn’t hear that?” And he said “I’m not getting into this shit again” and turned the TV up.

it’s a detached house, we don’t have neighbours. WTF is it??

OP posts:
PriamFarrl · 01/08/2022 20:29

SammySammySammytheBetterfly · 01/08/2022 18:52

@PriamFarrl
For instance there are multiple accounts from many women (and several men) of forced gang bangs with the demonic spirits collectively known as legion, who are known as one of the more active and malevolent sources of haunted houses.

There’s a lot of research on it.

Sorry, but that is utter shit.
Research my flabby arse. I’ve been a Fortean Times subscriber for 20 years and I’ve yet to read anything in there about hoards of ghosts going around raping people.

Miffee · 01/08/2022 20:48

IrisVersicolor · 01/08/2022 18:28

That’s not what I said at all. Anyone is free not to believe in ghosts.

But to tell someone experiencing activity in their home, for which all rational explanations have been exhausted, is paranormal in manifestation, that you don’t believe them, that what they are experiencing does not exist, it’s the same.

It’s shaming, disempowering, isolating. People can feel like they’re going mad because they know people around them won’t believe them. As I said, some activity can be deeply disturbing, traumatising, terrifying and people move home over it.

Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, but to come onto a thread and force your own belief on the OP - it’s just bullying.

Yeah, it's really distasteful and gross to continue to use language that evokes rape as a way to defend your ridiculous position.

You need to give your head a fucking shake.

Miffee · 01/08/2022 20:50

crwnhgow · 01/08/2022 19:45

That is a new level of batshittery. There's believing in ghosts and there's whatever the fuck that is.

Reminds me of when people on the 80s used to say playing records backwards made people kill themselves. Maybe don't listen to random online rumours.

Not just that but explaining there are no such things as ghosts in morally equivalent to disbelieving victims of actual rape.

Miffee · 01/08/2022 20:54

SammySammySammytheBetterfly · 01/08/2022 18:24

@Miffee

Many people say they’ve been raped or assaulted by ghosts and spirits.

Many people say that vaccines have micro chips in them, or it made them magnetic. Many people say the earth is flat. Many people say that the royal family are lizards.

I am deliberately staying away from more damaging things many people say to do with religion or politics but you get the jist.

My question is -And?

jc12689 · 01/08/2022 21:04

Many people say they’ve been raped or assaulted by ghosts and spirits.

many people are absolutely convinced the Earth is flat too, that doesn't mean it is

IrisVersicolor · 01/08/2022 21:06

Miffee · 01/08/2022 20:48

Yeah, it's really distasteful and gross to continue to use language that evokes rape as a way to defend your ridiculous position.

You need to give your head a fucking shake.

Just stop with your bullying.

I didn’t mention rape.

It doesn’t matter what you believe, it matters what the OP believes and what is her reality, this is her thread. She has detailed what she is experiencing in her life and you’re telling her you don’t believe her and it’s not happening.

It’s super disrespectful, disempowering and downright nasty.

Miffee · 01/08/2022 21:12

IrisVersicolor · 01/08/2022 21:06

Just stop with your bullying.

I didn’t mention rape.

It doesn’t matter what you believe, it matters what the OP believes and what is her reality, this is her thread. She has detailed what she is experiencing in her life and you’re telling her you don’t believe her and it’s not happening.

It’s super disrespectful, disempowering and downright nasty.

You did mention rape in your deleted post. You compared people disbelieving ghosts to people disbelieving rape victims. You continue to use language to evoke this sentiment. You now have the audacity to accuse others of being nasty and bullying. It's vile behaviour and you should be ashamed.

IrisVersicolor · 01/08/2022 21:13

Miffee · 01/08/2022 20:50

Not just that but explaining there are no such things as ghosts in morally equivalent to disbelieving victims of actual rape.

That’s not what I said: My point was that from the OP’s perspective being disbelieved about what is happening in her house may feel no different than being disbelieved about sexual assault.

It’s one thing to say there may be a rational explanation - of course there may be - it’s quite another to go on and on browbeating her that there’s no such thing as ghosts. Which, with a bit more humility you might accept that you can’t actually know.

IrisVersicolor · 01/08/2022 21:14

Miffee · 01/08/2022 21:12

You did mention rape in your deleted post. You compared people disbelieving ghosts to people disbelieving rape victims. You continue to use language to evoke this sentiment. You now have the audacity to accuse others of being nasty and bullying. It's vile behaviour and you should be ashamed.

That is a straightforward untruth: I said sexual assault.

Miffee · 01/08/2022 21:20

IrisVersicolor · 01/08/2022 21:14

That is a straightforward untruth: I said sexual assault.

Rape is a type of sexual assault.

But fine. I apologise.

You compared people disbelieving in ghosts to people disbelieving victims of sexual assault.

Is that somehow better?

IrisVersicolor · 01/08/2022 21:31

It is but it is the most extreme kind and I did not mention it.

And no, you still have it wrong. I am not comparing people not believing in ghosts with not believing victims of sa.

As I said above, simply that from the OP’s pov being disbelieved (indeed ridiculed) about this may feel no different from being disbelieved about sexual assault. If you reach out to people and they don’t believe a word of what you’re saying - it’s painful whatever the events.

If you don’t believe her that’s fine but surely just leave her alone.

Miffee · 01/08/2022 21:44

IrisVersicolor · 01/08/2022 21:31

It is but it is the most extreme kind and I did not mention it.

And no, you still have it wrong. I am not comparing people not believing in ghosts with not believing victims of sa.

As I said above, simply that from the OP’s pov being disbelieved (indeed ridiculed) about this may feel no different from being disbelieved about sexual assault. If you reach out to people and they don’t believe a word of what you’re saying - it’s painful whatever the events.

If you don’t believe her that’s fine but surely just leave her alone.

I haven't once responded to OP.

Stop being so sanctimonious. I realise you have backed yourself into a difficult corner with your vile equivalence but continuing to attempt to moralise is only maing it worse.

Paranormal · 01/08/2022 21:52

CounsellorTroi · 01/08/2022 12:36

Before we had the bathroom completely gutted and redone, there was occasionally a distinctive smell of depilatory cream. Which I didn’t use at the time and had none in the house. I assume a spillage had occurred at some point which was absorbed into the floor/wall and got released now and again when environmental conditions were right. But it stopped after we had the bathroom redone. Either the material releasing the smell had been taken out, or the previous occupant had accepted it was no longer her bathroom and had moved on. Take your pick.

I pick the most likely. (Which isn't the lingering spirit of a hairy ghost).

speakout · 01/08/2022 22:00

I sometimes get a whiff of phenol in out house, no obvious reason.

BobMortimersPocketMeat · 01/08/2022 22:03

We occasionally used to get the smell of old lady perfume. It’s because we had a leak in the roof which made a wall on the stairs ever so slightly damp, and the wallpaper had clearly taken in the scent over the 40 plus years she’d lived here.

Not supernatural.

IrisVersicolor · 01/08/2022 22:16

Miffee · 01/08/2022 21:44

I haven't once responded to OP.

Stop being so sanctimonious. I realise you have backed yourself into a difficult corner with your vile equivalence but continuing to attempt to moralise is only maing it worse.

Well quite, you haven’t even have the respect to address the OP directly. It’s clear you couldn’t care less about her dilemma. I’ve no doubt your comments: ‘batshit’, ‘bonkers, ‘delusional’ ‘insane’ ‘ghosts don’t exist’, ‘I’m anti-woo’ have hit the mark intended nonetheless. OP has surely got the point.

You come across as a bully spoiling for a fight and I’m not engaging further.

DashboardConfessional · 01/08/2022 22:16

I'm fairly certain that the various encounters I have had were psychological issues caused by circumstances at the time. Such as - moved into new house as a 4 year old, built on allotments belonging to nearby retirement home. Small me had a waking dream about a man in a rocking chair in my playroom, angry we were there. Clearly retirement allotments made me think of elderly people sitting in chairs on the land. The creepy feeling remained until I moved out at 19.

However, they are more difficult to admit to yourself and to explain when they're shared which I suspect is happening to OP's DH.

PriamFarrl · 01/08/2022 22:26

IrisVersicolor · 01/08/2022 22:16

Well quite, you haven’t even have the respect to address the OP directly. It’s clear you couldn’t care less about her dilemma. I’ve no doubt your comments: ‘batshit’, ‘bonkers, ‘delusional’ ‘insane’ ‘ghosts don’t exist’, ‘I’m anti-woo’ have hit the mark intended nonetheless. OP has surely got the point.

You come across as a bully spoiling for a fight and I’m not engaging further.

The OP herself in her opening post says ‘I’m not into the paranormal’.
She said about the things she has witnesses and asked people what they thought was happening.
Some people think it could be the spirits of dead people.
Some people think it could be the result of the house being built on a marsh.

People seem to be calling each other delusional and narrow minded rather than the OP, who is most likely wondering what the hell she has started.

malificent7 · 01/08/2022 22:27

Don't worry op...the dead are far less dangerous than the living. I lived in a haunted house and it was fine once I realised that my old flat mates were far more pernicious!

SkirridHill · 01/08/2022 22:42

Gangbanging ghosts who use Tinder to attract their victims. I've honestly heard it all.

Just as an aside (and not implying anything re: OP) but I've worked within a community mental health team and when someone is experiencing auditory and visual hallucinations (like voices, or catching sight of something out of the corner of their eye) we refer the poor sod to a consultant psychiatrist, because these are classic signs that someone's suffering from anxiety/depression/schizophrenia/bipolar.

Miffee · 02/08/2022 00:05

IrisVersicolor · 01/08/2022 22:16

Well quite, you haven’t even have the respect to address the OP directly. It’s clear you couldn’t care less about her dilemma. I’ve no doubt your comments: ‘batshit’, ‘bonkers, ‘delusional’ ‘insane’ ‘ghosts don’t exist’, ‘I’m anti-woo’ have hit the mark intended nonetheless. OP has surely got the point.

You come across as a bully spoiling for a fight and I’m not engaging further.

Pity you didn't decide to stop prior to your disgusting comparison.

Still, better late than never.

milkyaqua · 02/08/2022 00:20

IrisVersicolor · 01/08/2022 18:52

They’ve gone on and on and on about it and driven OP off her own thread.

She reached out for help but she can’t get it here because posters are far more interested in spouting their own beliefs than supporting the OP.

OP will be more than aware that the phenomena should have a rational explanation. That is where she and DH will have started. It is only when all rational explanations have been exhausted and it’s clear that they are not dealing with subsidence, marsh gas, rats, carbon monoxide that people get to the point OP is at now.

^This.

Popsicle33 · 02/08/2022 00:38

I would be seriously worried about the house. Get carbon monoxide alarms and a structural engineer! Don't fuck about with sage and priests - it's utter shite

WifeMotherWorkRepeat · 02/08/2022 07:41

If you can OP just move!

AgnestaVipers · 02/08/2022 12:42

On threads like these, the evangelical nature of the skeptics really stands out. As Keats put it: "Philosophy will clip an Angel's wings,
Conquer all mysteries by rule and line,
Empty the haunted air, and gnomèd mine—
Unweave a rainbow"

The rational, empirical sort empty the world of magic. The vehemence with which the atheists and skeptics foam about the events describes is odd. Who cares what people think? So long as they try the rational solutions first, who cares whether the events remain unexplained and scary?

Personally, I am agnostic: open to possibilities and most of all, fond of a good scary story.

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