Haunted house scaring the shit out of me

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Deliberately OTT title and I’m not into the paranormal but I’m getting freaked out in my house.

We’ve lived here 10 years. The house is only 20 years old. Built on marsh land.

A year or so after we moved in weird shit started happening. Stuff moving around, noises, dog going nuts in certain rooms, doors opening by themselves etc. DH got freaked out by it and started getting angry at me everytime I mentioned it. He outright refused to discuss it but admitted he had seen and heard the same stuff as me.

Then it all stopped. Nothing happened for years. All good.

Then, a couple of weeks ago I was messing on my phone and behind me I saw a shadow go past in the hallway out of the corner of my eye and heard it brush along the wall. The dog (different dog) flew over me barking and growling, all heckles raised. Back door was locked, there was no way anyone could have got in without me (or the dog) hearing the front door. I sent the dog around the whole house - nothing at all. I put it to the back of my mind but ever since the noises have started up again - footsteps on the first floor, doors opening and closing, muffled voices

DH has heard it too and is laughing it off saying the ghost is back but he too is randomly sending the dog into rooms and upstairs before him and telling me not to be stupid when I mention it. It’s seriously starting to freak me out.

It happened again 10 minutes ago … the sound of the floorboards creaking upstairs in the pattern of footsteps - DH looked up and muted the TV - then the sound of something being moved. I said “You’re not telling me you didn’t hear that?” And he said “I’m not getting into this shit again” and turned the TV up.

it’s a detached house, we don’t have neighbours. WTF is it??

Mumsnet sometimes gets a little odd, and at times like these, I think it’s important to remember this: it’s the summer holidays, innit?

@SammySammySammytheBetterfly That's not what I said. It is representative of the body (bread) and blood (wine) of Jesus and is a special and important practice, at the heart of the church. During Holy Communion (or Eucharist) the bread and wine is blessed on the alter beforehand, with a prayer of thanks to God. At the last supper, Jesus instructed us to "Do this in remembrance of me". I have attended Catholic Mass quite a few times and the difference in the way it's conducted is very similar.

Sad you're so ignorant. It's a matter of public record, the extent of his study and delving into esoteric matters. He left behind, as I recall, a million pages on alchemy alone, and was particularly interested in the development of the Philosopher's Stone - and the spiritual, not the practical, practice of alchemy.

*a million words

Here we go again. You can’t defend woo with an evidence-based argument, so you resort to insults.

(I’m wondering how being ‘technically’ a scientist by training differs from being, er, a scientist by training, but feel free not to explain).

@milkyaqua True, he also intensively studied the Bible to try to find hidden meanings, particularly about the apocalypse.

See above. Did anyone deny that Isaac Newton studied philosophical stuff that wasn’t particularly scientific? No.

I said that it was a shame that his real scientific achievements were being downplayed by the woo-fanciers in favour of his hobbies. Keep the insults coming, though. Every one weakens your argument.

You've been whooping it up and ridiculing (basic facts and) anyone who points out the esoteric interests - now downgraded to a hobby! - of Newton, and seemingly have no access to google where you could read countless articles detailing his deep and lifelong involvement with esoteric matter.

I think most posts on this thread have been fairly level, and the only insults seem to be flowing from, well, those like you.

You know you're being ridiculous right? There is no such thing as ghosts. get a surveyor in.

My OH is a C of E vicar and often asked to go and cleanse homes, there's a great diocesan team who give support. I've often been with him. We generally go with the view that these things are caused by some natural phenomena (rats, pipes, settling, Co2, etc etc) but there are some that are not. Pretty much every time the blessing/cleansing does clear it up and stop it. I don't pretend to understand the ins and outs, and remain generally sceptical about these things, but have seen too much to be black and white about it (things flying off walls etc.) Sometimes I reckon it's some kind of psychological phenomena caused by massive MH issues (eg with a very disturbed teenager) - there's so much more than we understand - but even with that prayer does amazing things, and sometimes there's definitely some kind of unquiet spirit that needs permission/command to move on.

Realise this makes me sound batshit, but you see all sorts in this job.

Op I'd look for physical reasons, but if that doesn't come to anything contact a local vicar (not spiritualist church, and not someone who requires payment - that's just so wrong.) All the best.

Thank you Madhairday, very sensible.

That’s either a misunderstanding or a manipulation of the point being made.

No-one is ‘downplaying’ his scientific achievements simply acknowledging all his areas of study and interest.

Newton self-described as a natural philosopher and his chief influence was Aristotle’s metaphysics. This is a time when there were no distinctions between philosophy, science and the spirit as there are now. His scientific work seems to have been of less importance to him than his philosophical.

Check your local authority planning website to see what applications have been made in the past. It could be the result of work done in the past - perhaps neighbours have created a cellar that is causing disturbance and settlement?

Are you anywhere near an underground railway (doesn't have to be for passengers)? I remember being in the basement of the university library and it was quite disturbing the noise and trembling that was caused by underground trains.

Get a surveyor in. Actually, did you have a survey done before moving in to the property? Check if there was anything in the report that might offer an explanation.

That’s a completely different thing and quite insulting that anyone would entertain comparing the two.

I’ve reported that post. What a vile thing to say.

As someone who has been sexually assaulted I don’t think it’s insulting at all.

If you don’t believe the OP, then don’t post, it’s as simple as that.

It's extremely inappropriate to compare something that by all credible accounts literally doesn't exist and causes no harm even if it does to sexual assault.

Particularly given the context is skepticism.

Get a grip.

You don’t find your own insulting posts insulting? There’s a surprise. And, you don’t get to police the thread and decide who posts. The OP was looking for potential explanations. She got them. Most of them are not supernatural. That’s because the most likely explanations are not supernatural.

There are two different things here. Believing that the OP has witnessed what she has witnessed, and deciding what the cause is.

I do believe that the op has experienced what she says the has. I don’t believe it is the spirit of a dead person but far more likely to be an explanation like subsidised.

There are plenty of posters on this thread who have experienced stuff that defies rational explanation. It’s not uncommon.

These experiences are real to them. Some of these types of experiences can be distressing and traumatising and quite terrifying. It’s not actually true that these experiences don’t cause harm - some people suffer extreme distress and fear in their homes, some experience being pushed around by forces they cannot see.

Who are you to lay the law down as to what exists? To bully the OP and tell her she has not experienced what she believes she has? How is that helping her?

Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, the OP just as much as you.

I've not told OP anything. I've told YOU that comparing disbelief in ghosts to not believing rape victims is inappropriate.

Show us who has bullied the OP. Quote the posts, if you have to.

The most unpleasant posts on this thread have come from the people who are desperately invested in the supernatural being real. Some of those really are nasty, although yours just before 4 pm, which has now been deleted, took the biscuit.

I got called a cocroach, sad, ignorant, bull headed. That's off the top of my head, there was more.

Should add I am an antiwoo poster.