To not understand drag queens at libraries?

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Just recently, there seems to be lots of news stories about drag acts reading books for children at libraries. I don’t understand what this is meant to do. Is it supposed to lead to acceptance as the children get older?

I don’t know but I think it’s horrific because drag queens are essentially taking the piss out of women and parodying sexist stereotypes. I don’t think children need to be exposed to that

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... sparkles, makeup, feathers etc aren't exclusively reserved for just 'girls'

But girls ( or women) don't dress like drag queens! I have never seen a girl or woman wear the amount of sparkles, makeup and feathers as drag queens do!

I’d imagine it’s the same reasoning as having a drag queen at a Christmas pantomime.

But the amazing costumes, makeup, illusions, quick change, hair styling etc is wonderful to look at and great for breaking the mould that it only belongs to women

It doesn’t show that it’s not only for women though, as they are presenting themselves as women. They could have costumes, hair styling and makeup while still presenting as men.

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it is highly unusual to see a drag Queen in. Family pantomime. Craig revel Horwood is the only one I can think of.
You are thinking of Dames and they are a very different thing.

I wonder if women who acted and dressed in the same way as drag queens would be welcomed to do childrens story time at libraries.

I've been to drag performances on several different continents. I've sat next to Dirty Martini in a club in New York and then watched as he pulled lengths of dollar bills out of his arse later that night on stage. I've seen drag kings and queens of all sorts of colours and flavours. One thing they all are, is fucking sexual! Jesus wept some people are so gullible. The act is not for kids. The concept is not for kids. If a drag act is performing in front of kids, you have to ask why the hell they took that gig.

Also the Drag Queen Story hour featuring ADHD bloke has only been a registered company for a matter of weeks. How many other companies get a whole tour of gigs in such a super quick time? Most entertainers have to spend a good few years building up their client list.

Hardly giving up their time....they get paid ( by the tax payer)

Anyone that follows our fair use and behavior policy is welcome at the library, people that don't comply with the code of conduct are asked to leave. It's posted on the wall so everyone knows what's expected to use the space, we try to be very fair and consistent with consequences for behavior that breaks the rules.

Aida h dee does it to promote transgender ideology.

Paedophiles tried to get acceptance back in the 1970s as “Minor Attracted Persons” and promoted pseudo scientific “evidence” about children being sexual creatures who could “enjoy” relationships with adults.

Because there was a flood of new ideas at the time challenging the old
orthodoxy many “right on” liberals were prepared to promote or at least not question whether in fact they were really evil dirty child molesters who were trying to gain acceptance.

For a brief period, anyone who questioned these ideas were “bigoted”, “prejudiced” or just “out of date”.

This seems incredible now but in the 70s it happened.

Always beware the motivations.

Who would have thought there was such a demand for drag queens to speak at public libraries? I wonder how much they get paid, and how they get recruited for it.

I'm an experienced public speaker who can talk on a number of different topics to all kinds of audiences, but I've never seen any vacancies for speaking at public libraries advertised. I should think its quite a difficult gig to get. Goodness knows why drag queens should be so successful.

No I’m not thinking of Dames I’m talking about men in drag.

Since you seem to not only be an expert in what I’m thinking but also in Dames. I’m curious as to what’s you think is very different about Dames?

My local libraries paid £450 for 3 one hour storytimes by a drag queen. They were asked by the library to do it.

They are asked because they tick the D&I box. Libraries care about this over any safeguarding concerns.

My dcs were scared by pantomime dames when they were small so I'm glad this type of storytelling wasn't around then. I don't think it teaches them anything. Are they going ask if its a man dressed as a woman? If not does someone then have to explain? Can't see the point.

Truly amazing. Thats about 500% more than I get lecturing part time in law at my local university's evening classes.

What a shame libraries don't want their audiences to hear about the law as well!

Well yes, not all at once...that's the costume element of the performance.

But each element individually is seen as typically 'feminine' and so seeing a man wearing any of them can be ground breaking for young kids.

Like I've said on here already, please don't put words in my mouth.

I used to love watching Lilly Savage on Blankity Blank back in the day, and I was a child then.

Was that any different? I mean really, was it? Are there any Mumsnetters old enough to have watched it as an adult to comment?

So what about my example there is pretending to be a woman? By wearing makeup? A dress? Pink? Long/big hair?

Is that all a woman is to you?

They aren't pretending to be a woman. You can do drag without pretending to be a woman (yes I'm aware of the words origins, but like all things, it has evolved).

Well they are pretending....aida h dee likes to be addressed as she.

Not in my example where I specifically stated the artists don't always ask to be called she.
I wasn't talking about the specific artist this thread was started about.

I was asking about the more modern take on drag which is more androgynous

Good question, and quoting the standard inclusion policy for visitors [that is being flouted] doesn’t answer it.

Somehow diversity and inclusion tickboxes don’t include many women at the moment do they. Just more men.