EU border entry requirements because of Brexit - need to prove you have £85 per day to spend

[cakeorwine]

In theory of course.

EU Border staff such as in Spain, can ask to check that you have enough spending money, a return ticket / onward ticket as well as all the passport checks ensuring it's in date, valid during your time in the EU and that you haven't been in the EU too long.

I guess they aren't doing this in full - but they have the right to. It's what we should be doing at UK immigration. Just so we know that people coming here can stay and aren't trying to sneak in for work.

This is what being a 3rd country out of the EU means. Before hand, at ferry ports, we were waved through or a brief scan. Potentially these checks will be time consuming.

And if the EU or any country in the EU wishes to make a point, this is what they can do.

www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/spain-introduces-new-85-rule-for-british-holidaymakers-entering-country/ar-AAZVRVQ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=dde0bb90bf474bc3ad00ae5097ea7424

It will happen next year apparently as the EU is introducing fingerprint scanning. Not for us particularly, just for none-EU/EEA countries.

Fun fun fun.

Can those who us who voted remain have a separate queue please?

I remember a friend telling me many years ago that you always had to have cash on you because of French vagrancy laws. I have no idea if that is true, but if so, they're not making special rules for us. I suspect that in practice a credit card would be enough. I doubt they ask people who are clearly on a package tour with TUI, either.

And it just takes experiences like that for EU passengers to get EU border officials to reciprocate in turn.

To be honest with you, and from the point of view of having travelled regularly during Covid (family issues), I think the police controls to enter Spain (not the health checks) were strict with everybody because they had the time and the resource to do it. Since Easter I can see that they do not even stamp most non-EU passports as the queues would be unmanageable. Just a check on the system and all passengers coming from the UK are allowed in. I have observed extra procedures at Alicante airport when flights from Algeria or Russia land, but they basically organise another route for these passengers. Maybe from other countries too but, well, I saw this with passengers from these countries.

Wait till next year when we also have to pay a visa for the privilege!

This is true. I've been a US green card holder for more than 10 years, and I still get the 3rd degree when I enter the US.

I don't understand why people expect the British to get special treatment when we visit the EU. We are now a third country. DH is American and used to get questioned whenever we entered the EU, whereas DS and I would just walk straight through immigration. He also has to answer lots of questions when he comes to the UK - where are you staying, what do you do, when was the last time you visited, what was the reason, what's the purpose of your visit, etc etc. That's how it works.

By he, I meant American DH.

I don't understand why people expect the British to get special treatment when we visit the EU

Because we're special and should be treated differently by the EU compared to other countries?

But obviously EU arrivals need the full immigration treatment so we know who comes into the UK

USA and Australia do the same, and have done for at least the last thirty years whilst I’ve been travelling independently.

@cakeorwine
Yes, I was quite angry when that happened because there were too many questions and the agent kept asking them. I think it could be very worrying for tourists and also for people without a good command of English. It reminded me of an occasion, a few years back, when a friend from Spain came to visit, and the guy at passport control asked her 5 year old whether she was his mum and what he was going to do in London so many times that the poor boy could not stop crying. Basically he did not understand that much English!

I have been to Spain three times this year and not once did anyone ask questions about this - the biggest pain was the covid certificates and kids PCRs etc and they didn’t even look at them and couldn’t care less!
Portugal was effortless last summer.
France ditto last autumn
No problems at all in Italy for the ski season
It seems if you really really look for problems unless you are actively making them up as the French did at the weekend there is no difference at all !!!

It says alot to me about Brexit, that the fall out has been so minimal people are now reduced to creating problems just to justify their mistaken claims that the world would end when we left the EU. It hasn’t. It won’t, and it was a good call as you will see in the next eighteen months.

Have you actually read the eurozone financial forecasts? Look at Italy in particular very closely and even the most die hard remoaner will wobble. 2008 with whistles springs to mind. It is worrying that so many seem so oblivious to
the real problems.

No, you’re wrong. It is a requirement. This little clip might help you mobile.twitter.com/a_toots/status/1551151249092927490. I can’t find the exact treaty requirements, but they do exist. Member states must systematically check passports when third country nationals entry the territory. And passports must stamped, because 90/180. You want to do, ‘the French are fucking with us’. As Simon Calder explains, we asked for this.

On the other hand, the UK can choose it’s own rules for those travelling the other way, which appear to be minimal. Just as we aren’t doing checks on goods etc coming from Europe, because as Rees-Mogg says, to do so would be an act of self harm.

Now either the govt didn’t understand the consequences of being a third country on travel by third country citizens to the EU, or it thought it wouldn’t be applied. Which ever, now we are a third country, these rules have to be applied before our entry into the EU. It’s a fucker eh?

So, this is a thread to complain about the annoying whinging to a problem that hasn't happened yet - is that right?

You want to do, ‘the French are fucking with us’. As Simon Calder explains, we asked for this

Um, I understand. What I am saying is that the French could do a LOT more than they are doing at the moment.

They have to stamp our passports.

They could do a lot more. As has been explained on this thread.

Yet....and this is what could happen if they decided to do more than just check and stamp passports.

OP, has this affected you? Have you personally been asked to show your bank account?

Sure, it just seems to be jumping the gun a bit. 😁

In theory anyone entering the EU could be.

If we piss off the EU like we seem to be doing at the moment, then I wouldn't blame them if they did.

Isn't this what people voted for though? None of this really should be news to anyone who had the faintest idea of what it means to essentially leave a club which provides special privileges for its members. When you cease to be a member you cease those privileges too.

I've never been asked for anything extra. Most of the time just waved through. Maybe I just look friendly.

I've never been asked for anything extra. Most of the time just waved through. Maybe I just look friendly.

Depends on the airport you travel through.

Last time I travelled to the US I went to see a friend so went to a smaller airport. The border guard just laughed at me for declaring a packet of sweets and let me through quickly. There as he had taken ages with the person before who was a Chinese national.

On previous occasions I had gone to larger airports and given the third degree even though I had an onward or return flight.

Yes, of course. Although you seem to be assuming stupidity rather than malice. Perhaps for some, making other people queue for holidays they could never afford to go on in the first place, was a perk?

We'll be flying to Spain shortly for 2.5weeks. Not sure how they would check my money? I plan to take 1,100EUR max, and the DC's will have about 600eur between them. We are staying with my parents so i certainly wont have the 100eur per day, per person.

Not for me, I should add. We were already going through the slow queue with DH being a foreigner but obviously it is much bigger now.