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to think English weddings are frequently sh*t?

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CraggyIslandTouristBoard · 24/07/2022 15:07

...and in particular the timing of the so-called wedding 'breakfast' (a term which should in any event should only be used for a morning meal).

Wedding I recently went to:


  • All guests staying in same hotel, breakfast (actual breakfast) at 8:30am

  • Wedding starts 11am

  • Canapes at 1pm EXCEPT we only got served 1 single canape. That was it. And we were on the lookout for them, and moved to stand near the kitchen when we saw they were being served but hadn't reached us. (Quite a lot of alcohol though but really not much fun drinking it because we're starting to get effing hungry.)

  • Wedding 'breakfast' scheduled for 4pm, starters actually not served until 4:20ish, main course after 5pm by which point we're beyond hangry/fainting with hunger.

  • 8pm cake, followed by evening buffet. Which only gets picked at because we ate lunch so late.

  • We ate breakfast in hotel (actual breakfast) 8:30am

  • Wedding was 11am for an 11:30 start, though didn't actually start until 12:20ish

  • Canapes served about 2pm. On that occasion we got offered a total of 3 canapes. Seeing friends of bride and groom we've not seen for a while, conversation invariably goes (us) "Long time no see - how are you?" (other guests) "Pretty hungry actually!"

  • "Breakfast" Lunch officially 4pm but everything seemingly running late, we were on the very last table to be served and got starter about 5pm and main just before 6pm. Dessert 7:30pm

  • Pizza from 9pm, plus wedding cake. FFS we only finished dinner an hour and a half ago!!!!


At another wedding I remember something similar happening and people heading to the nearby pub to stock up on crisps to keep them going.

What is with this ridiculous tradition of serving a meal so late in the day with guests having effectively nothing to eat in the meantime?! These were relatively lavish weddings, I don't expect to be fed constantly/repeatedly/anything particularly fancy and would be quite happy with a decent meal at lunchtime and then just some cake (or a cheeseboard or pizza or an evening buffet if the wedding couple is so inclined). The weddings must have cost at fortune and yet at each of them it was clear people were just too hungry for most of the afternoon to really enjoy it.

How does anyone think this is a good idea?!

If you've organised a wedding with similar timing yourself, why?! Just why?!

Thank god we didn't have the kids with us, but in future if we do take them to a wedding I think I'm going to have to bring a picnic for them (and us).

(By way of background I am English myself, and had an evening wedding with a mountain of canapes followed by a full 4 course dinner straight after).

OP posts:
RampantIvy · 25/07/2022 11:15

Personally, I blame photographers for these insane gaps in wedding days - whipping off the bride and groom for mammoth, contrived three-hour photo sessions while their guests stand about like spare parts.*

I agree. I also think there are more bridezillas about who focus too much on the Instagram aspect than the marriage part.

TheSummerPalace · 25/07/2022 11:35

Best place imo for a wedding is Poland! DS married a Polish woman:

11 am - a ceremony involving bride, groom and parents in private (we had no idea what was going on, but it seemed to be a blessing)
1 pm - wedding
2 pm - 3 course sit down dinner with free flowing drinks, then fizzy wine toasts, speeches and wedding cake; DJ plays music and games for rest of the event
4 pm - bride and groom photos plus family, all over the grounds
6 pm - tea of large selection of cold meats, cheeses, salads, etc
10 pm - hot meal

There was a bottle of vodka per Polish guest on the tables; bottles of wine, beer, soft drinks and desserts on a side table available all day/night after the first meal

We went to bed at midnight, but apparently there was another meal in the early hours of bbq stuff

5.30 am - the end

DDIL said weddings normally go on for 2 days, but this was all they could afford! Total cost, I believe for 60 people was £4,500! I have never seen so much food! We asked the Poles how they could eat so much, and they told us to keep drinking the vodka - it tricks the brain into thinking they are hungry!

Stoic123 · 25/07/2022 11:50

SoftSheen · 24/07/2022 17:33

It doesn't have to be like this. Our wedding went:

10.45 Guests arrive at chrurch
11.00 Wedding ceremony
11.45 Photographs in adjacent gardens
12.45 Walk to hotel reception venue (5 minute walk)
13.00 Champagne reception at hotel (no canapés!)
13.30 Lunch served (3 courses)
15.00 Speeches, wedding cake etc
16.30 Finish, people went on to the hotel bar, local pubs or back home.

I wish this sort of timing was more common.

Fondly remember similar wedding where group photographs done first so we had time to fit in a pub stop enroute to reception and then there was an epic pub crawl for those that wanted it afterwards (these days I'd be tucked up with a cup of cocoa).

AffIt · 25/07/2022 12:20

@TheSummerPalace Hell yes - I've been to two Polish weddings and they were both awesome (although I will say I learned a few lessons from the first one about bottles of vodka on the table at lunchtime 😄).

I can dance a mean polka now, too.

TowelChair · 25/07/2022 12:26

I went to one wedding where there was a 1 hour drive from the church to the venue. Followed by a 2-hour photography session for the happy couple where the guests were left with 1 glass of kir royale…no canapés, no pay bar, middle of no where!! Then we had lunch around 4pm. Lots of long speeches. Then a 16-piece swing band that no one could dance to and a casino with the bride and groom faces printed on the fake money.

I wish they’d spent that money on a disco and some actual catering!!

Another wedding and we were ravenous after a very long drinks reception with 2 canapés each. The table arrangements were massive and elaborate… we took it off our table because no one could see each other. Wish they’d reduced the flowers and fed us instead 😂

gannett · 25/07/2022 12:26

Some weddings are better than others but I've never been to one that's anything like the tortuous starvation apparently common among MNers.

Even the most chaotically disorganised were fun on some level because the point of a wedding is not to revolve around each of its guests' specific needs and personal timetables, it's to celebrate the couple getting married, whom you presumably like, and socialise with fellow guests, at least some of whom you also presumably like.

I'm someone who likes my food a lot but it's pretty pathetic if you can't ignore a few hunger pangs for a couple of hours. If you have a medical condition where hunger might be an issue, eat a big breakfast/brunch and take snacks, it's really not hard to work this out.

Standing around waiting? Oh no, you might have to actually talk to your fellow guests, what horror.

RampantIvy · 25/07/2022 12:37

Some weddings are better than others but I've never been to one that's anything like the tortuous starvation apparently common among MNers.

Neither have I, but none of my friends and family would plan a wedding and not consider the comfort of the guests. I still think the tortuous starvation fests are planned by the "me me me" couples who make it all about themselves.

I have never been invited to a wedding in the middle of nowhere or abroad. The ones we have travelled to have not been "destination" weddings but at the home towns of family who just happen live a couple of hundred miles away.

gannett · 25/07/2022 13:12

RampantIvy · 25/07/2022 12:37

Some weddings are better than others but I've never been to one that's anything like the tortuous starvation apparently common among MNers.

Neither have I, but none of my friends and family would plan a wedding and not consider the comfort of the guests. I still think the tortuous starvation fests are planned by the "me me me" couples who make it all about themselves.

I have never been invited to a wedding in the middle of nowhere or abroad. The ones we have travelled to have not been "destination" weddings but at the home towns of family who just happen live a couple of hundred miles away.

Maybe the answer is to have better friends in the first place. I'm not friends with any obnoxious "me me me" couples because those personality traits would have been off-putting to me way before I got close enough to be invited to their wedding.

RampantIvy · 25/07/2022 13:29

I think that's why I don't get invited to expensive hen dos and OTT weddings @gannett. Nor does anyone I know make unreasonable requests of me. Maybe I have a better bullshit radar or maybe unreasonable people avoid me. I don't know. However, I am lucky that what family I have left are lovely.

BellePeppa · 25/07/2022 14:16

I get low blood sugar and can feel faint if I go too long without eating something. I’ve always veered on the side of low blood pressure so going several hours not eating while standing around doing nothing while endless photos are being taken is not my idea of a fun day.

Sparklingbrook · 25/07/2022 14:20

BellePeppa · 25/07/2022 14:16

I get low blood sugar and can feel faint if I go too long without eating something. I’ve always veered on the side of low blood pressure so going several hours not eating while standing around doing nothing while endless photos are being taken is not my idea of a fun day.

As you know that though you can always be prepared for it? Have some snacks with you etc.

rightonthyme · 25/07/2022 14:57

Yeah they are. Best wedding I ever went to was family in a Mediterranean country- fireworks, love and lots of amazing food! Loads to do, lots of dancing and a beautiful ceremony.English ones are rubbish, especially when the couples always seem to disappear for HOURS to get photos done. Meanwhile everyone else mills around nodding awkwardly at each other for a couple of hours, or wrangling unhappy kids.

Delatron · 25/07/2022 15:19

I have low blood sugar/ blood pressure too. So if the timings looked suss I would take a bag of snacks and make sure I’d had a big breakfast. But let’s be honest it’s basic bad hosting to leave people hungry for hours (and standing round). I specifically planned all my timings in my wedding to make sure people would not be be hungry. We cut photos right down to more natural
shots as the wedding was happening. About 10 minutes for a couple of group family shots and that was it.

That entire time we were having a few photos taken there were canapés and drinks being serviced.

We also provided an early tea for kids (diner style) and kids entertainment.

RampantIvy · 25/07/2022 15:32

But let’s be honest it’s basic bad hosting to leave people hungry for hours

I agree

I now have visions of people turning up to early weddings carrying a packed lunch with them 😀

Kite22 · 25/07/2022 15:32

I have low blood sugar/ blood pressure too. So if the timings looked suss I would take a bag of snacks and make sure I’d had a big breakfast. But let’s be honest it’s basic bad hosting to leave people hungry for hours (and standing round).

Me too.
Odd that there are so many people on this thread that can't believe some people really struggle if they go more than 5 hours between meals.

Like @RampantIvy and @gannett I am beginning to think this might be something to do with who you mix with. People I am close to are generally nice people, and do tend to consider guests in their planning.

Sparklingbrook · 25/07/2022 15:41

I now have visions of people turning up to early weddings carrying a packed lunch with them

Sounds sensible if they will be on the brink of starvation after an hour or so. Why wouldn't they?

RampantIvy · 25/07/2022 15:43

DH has had upper GI cancer surgery and has to eat little and often. I will remember to pack some snacks should we ever get invited to a late morning/lunchtime wedding.

BellePeppa · 25/07/2022 15:47

Sparklingbrook · 25/07/2022 14:20

As you know that though you can always be prepared for it? Have some snacks with you etc.

I haven’t been to a wedding for over 20 years but I’d certainly go more prepared nowadays.

Sparklingbrook · 25/07/2022 15:49

My DF has to take tablets at very strict times and a lot of them have to be with food, so they are used to taking a Tupperware with them for that reason. It's just thinking ahead.
Same as always having snacks in the car in case of hold ups on the motorway or whatever. Plan for all eventualities.

garlictwist · 25/07/2022 17:00

Ihaveroyallyscrewedup · 24/07/2022 16:56

I’m Scottish and like a pp poster have never been to a morning wedding or been left hungry at one, maybe I’ve been lucky.
I believe the term wedding breakfast comes from a time when you were only permitted to be get married before midday.

I'm in Scotland and I''m afraid I've been to lots of weddings that start early and starve the guests and are tedious as fuck, so it's the same all over!

Pixies74 · 25/07/2022 17:04

I dislike weddings now because I no longer drink, there's so much waiting around and I've been to about 30 of them over the years.

But they've always started around 1.30/2 so always had chance to eat lunch beforehand and then happy for the dinner to be around 4.30/5... Tbh I've not heard of weddings starting at 11!

Evenstar · 25/07/2022 17:41

@Mydogatemypurse are you still friends with those awful people? I have never heard anything so rude 😮

Mydogatemypurse · 25/07/2022 19:35

Evenstar · 25/07/2022 17:41

@Mydogatemypurse are you still friends with those awful people? I have never heard anything so rude 😮

Ha no. Not for years

TheSummerPalace · 25/07/2022 21:06

Tbh I've not heard of weddings starting at 11!

Ours did, precisely so our guests could have lunch at the normal time, as we knew DH’s family would have to get up early to travel a long way, together on a minibus!

Greenday49 · 25/07/2022 22:44

I know I am late to this thread but one thing that sticks out to me is the number of people saying 'Just go get something if you're hungry, what's the problem?!'

1)Not all weddings are held in places that sell food. Some bars don't even sell snacks/crisps, especially smaller ones or ones set up/designated for booze only for parties. I think It's rather ignorant to say 'nip back to your hotel room and have a sandwich!' You might be in a stately home, someone's back garden, a barn or a venue used solely for weddings. You might have been there a day or so already-where are you going to whip up a sandwich from? The hotel may not be serving food at that time and you'd look a bit odd ordering food when the B&G had put some on anyway and eating it sitting at a table in the middle of people mingling. Also, I've only ever been to ONE wedding that was held in a hotel, and I've been to dozens of them.

2)Not all weddings are held near towns. Some are in the back of beyond and driving off to pick up a sandwich would be an hour long trip (or more)-If you don't know the schedule/timings you could miss something important, perhaps even the food.

3)Not everyone drives.

4)If you're 2 glasses of wine in and feeling peckish, you can't drive anyway. Plus IME a lot of people don't drive to weddings, they may have got a lift or a bus so they can consume alcohol, It's a party, It's what (a lot of) people do.

Carrying snacks is the best idea IMO/E but, It's not always really practical. Especially in a fancy frock with your little clutch bag. If you have children with you, that's different and much easier as you'll (usually) have a larger bag with you. I do agree that if you're going on a long day out (anywhere) and aren't sure where to get food from, It's never a bad idea to prepare for that.

I can't remember how many have done it, but I do remember the last two
I went to and they both had a 'schedule' sent, it was on the backs of the invitations. It really helped me prepare for when to eat, how much alcohol to drink/not drink etc, nothing worse than that sick feeling. I know some posters have said they'd find it 'uncouth' or such to do that but I definitely prefer to know what's happening, before I go anywhere, wedding or not.

I am not particularly 'posh' and have always called it a wedding breakfast and so did the last two weddings I went to. I can't remember about others but It's a tradition referring to religious weddings where the couple would fast but aside from that, breakfast literally means 'breaking a fast' break-fast. If you worked late and don't eat anything the next day until 1pm, you're still breaking the fast from when you last ate/slept. It has never meant 'meal eaten of a morning'.

I don't think I am greedy and I am not overweight but going from morning until 2100 (as a poster said upthread) without food, I would be feeling lethargic and ill and probably not much like partying. Wedding guests are just that, GUESTS. Look after them!

The two best weddings I have been to did provide a schedule so people knew where they were at. They were also vastly apart in terms of expense and venue.

Both my old university friends but one is a homely/hippie type and one is very corporate in her lifestyle so they were extremely different.

The former had a traditional pagan wedding in the early afternoon. We could walk from our hotel to the venue which was in the town, and everyone stayed at the same place if they didn't live close by. Reasonably priced. Ceremony, then straight to a large barn-type venue with a bar. Copious champagne on the tables, and I was VERY lucky to be the only one on the table that liked it (hic) then a simple buffet came out into a central table. Plenty of choice and plenty of food for everyone. Multiple pasta salads, curries different types of bread, meat and cheese, lots more, I forget. It was restocked throughout the day/night until everyone had had enough (and they checked)!

Short but lovely speeches, cake then organised/free dancing that went on until 11ish. Perfect. They'd put taxis on to get people back to the hotel. She told me how much it cost, about the same price as a breast enlargement (I am sorry, I cannot think of anything else that is about that price)! Grin .

Latter. Very 'naice' venue in the middle of nowhere. Must have cost an absolute fortune. Everyone in themed period costume. Wedding at 1pm. Mingling while photos were done for about 90 mins, canapes and plenty of them. Speeches (again not too long) and breakfast at around 4pm, more than enough food, 4 courses, traditional english food, with a vegetarian option. Wine on the tables and more than enough of it. Everything there over by 630 ish.

First dance and then dancing again until the last person left. Pizzas and other options put on around 2130.

I wasn't cold, hungry or bored at either of them and they're my favourite ones out of every wedding ever because of that. I cannot say the same for the rest of them, and it was nothing to do with expense or lifestyle of the couple.

Having said that, I think the PP who pointed out that people who don't tend to host/attend many events may not be the best at organising them. They're essentially in charge of something they've not really experienced before.