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To be terrified that my 4yr old dd is starting school in September

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scorpiogirly · 20/07/2022 10:20

Is it just me? The thought of sending her to school in September makes me feel sick. No parent should be terrified of their children starting school.

I'm speaking of the new RSE curriculum. Parents no longer have a right to opt out. Parents do not have the right to demand to see what their children are being taught. Dangerous ideology will embedded into every lesson.

5000 parents are taking the Welsh Government to court and the case has been accepted.

Schools seem to be following a script when met with questions about the new RSE. Safeguarding, age appropriate. Who decides what is age appropriate for our children?

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scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:07

I'm sorry, I didn't realise you were a teacher. So as a teacher, you will know that all 4 governments in the UK have signed up to the global sex ed policy? Which isn't actually RSE, it's CSE. Have you read that document?

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Pumperthepumper · 21/07/2022 22:08

scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:07

I'm sorry, I didn't realise you were a teacher. So as a teacher, you will know that all 4 governments in the UK have signed up to the global sex ed policy? Which isn't actually RSE, it's CSE. Have you read that document?

Which document? Can you link it?

Pumperthepumper · 21/07/2022 22:09

But regardless, you’re still able to contact the school about any concerns. This is not the way to go about it.

pointythings · 21/07/2022 22:13

@scorpiogirly a debate doesn't mean that everything discussed in that debate is going to become policy.

And what exactly in the global document is it that you object to? I have asked you this before and not had an answer.

scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:17

www.publicchildprotectionwales.org/resources

The links to those are here.

What isn't the way to go about it? What am I doing wrong? We've been told as parents the extent of the education. Am I to go to her now and ask her the question again, only to be told the same answer?

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scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:19

pointythings · 21/07/2022 22:13

@scorpiogirly a debate doesn't mean that everything discussed in that debate is going to become policy.

And what exactly in the global document is it that you object to? I have asked you this before and not had an answer.

It already has become policy. The aim of the debate was to get thw DofE to reassess the policy and to remove inappropriate content. If you watch the video it will tell you what I have a problem with.

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Pumperthepumper · 21/07/2022 22:21

scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:17

www.publicchildprotectionwales.org/resources

The links to those are here.

What isn't the way to go about it? What am I doing wrong? We've been told as parents the extent of the education. Am I to go to her now and ask her the question again, only to be told the same answer?

No, go now and tell them specifically what you want your daughter to learn and what you’d rather she didn’t. Ask for the dates and times of the lessons you’d prefer her to miss and make sure she misses them. You’re on a crusade here and it’ll backfire on your kid.

Pumperthepumper · 21/07/2022 22:22

Can you link to the specific document? That website is difficult to navigate.

scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:23

Like I said, parents are being told there is no opt out. And as previously explained, they aren't stand alone lessons.

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Pumperthepumper · 21/07/2022 22:25

scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:23

Like I said, parents are being told there is no opt out. And as previously explained, they aren't stand alone lessons.

Of course you can opt her out - this is where you have to work with the school. What’s your plan otherwise? Have her learn it and then what?

Pumperthepumper · 21/07/2022 22:26

And they will be standalone lessons - she won’t be learning about RSHP during maths or literacy, there will be time put aside for it.

scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:30

The links are all pdfs.

Not sure why the site is difficult to navigate. You can get to it easily or do a Google search.

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scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:31

Pumperthepumper · 21/07/2022 22:25

Of course you can opt her out - this is where you have to work with the school. What’s your plan otherwise? Have her learn it and then what?

We've been through this upthread. It has been made mandatory to students to attend.

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Pumperthepumper · 21/07/2022 22:32

It’s difficult to navigate because whoever made it has absolutely crowded each page with text. Why is it so difficult for you to provide a link?

And what’s your plan with your daughter’s school if you truly believe you can’t opt out?

scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:35

Because it's impossible to link a PDF. Being a teacher, I would have thought you would have already seen it and read through it. Which proves the point that most teachers don't even know what's coming.

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Pumperthepumper · 21/07/2022 22:37

scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:35

Because it's impossible to link a PDF. Being a teacher, I would have thought you would have already seen it and read through it. Which proves the point that most teachers don't even know what's coming.

Ok, well since you can’t provide the link, I guess that’s as far as we can take that.

What’s your plan for your daughter if you don’t believe you can opt her out?

scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:42

I have provided a link which contains the PDF of this very document.

If nothing is done about this, I'll have no option but to remove her and look at an alternative education.

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Pumperthepumper · 21/07/2022 22:44

scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:42

I have provided a link which contains the PDF of this very document.

If nothing is done about this, I'll have no option but to remove her and look at an alternative education.

Where though? If you believe it’s mandatory and global, surely your only choice is home school?

scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:46

That's what I meant.

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Pumperthepumper · 21/07/2022 22:47

Well, good luck then! Hope all works out for you 🌷

scorpiogirly · 21/07/2022 22:47

Thank you.

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Macaroni1924 · 22/07/2022 00:51

Watching the video now and at 1.32mins it says mandatory for secondary school age, nothing about primary.

Completelyovernonsense · 22/07/2022 05:50

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pointythings · 22/07/2022 09:38

Macaroni1924 · 22/07/2022 00:51

Watching the video now and at 1.32mins it says mandatory for secondary school age, nothing about primary.

Exactly. So I would ask again @scorpiogirly what is it that you object to your DD learning, given that she is going into reception year?

hollyivysaurus · 22/07/2022 09:51

This is a bit of a non-issue! Talk to your child’s school about your concerns in the first instance. It’s not worth being terrified over!

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