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To ask what you do for a living and how much you earn?

392 replies

Kallo3 · 19/07/2022 16:51

Just being nosey really, I feel like most of the women on mumsnet are really big earners. I need help managing my money a bit better I think.

OP posts:
Ohwait · 20/07/2022 11:18

@Curiosity101 thanks for that, I’ll have a look! Have to admit I’m not a big IT person but I’ll have a quick look x

premiumbudget · 20/07/2022 11:37

Curiosity101 · 20/07/2022 10:39

@Ohwait I whole heartedly recommend software engineering if you're logical, methodical and enjoy puzzle solving. There's a large shortage right now and it lends itself perfectly to WFH/hybrid working, as well as flexible working (making up extra hours in the evening etc). Wages are also great.

Our grads start on £35k + £5k signing bonus + yearly performance bonus. They often need full training and/or only have basic coding skills in one language, so as you can see even junior roles can command pretty decent money with huge scope to grow over time. I know a number of senior engineers and engineering managers on 100k+ (not London salaries either...)

What is this in basic terms?

SofiaSoFar · 20/07/2022 12:37

Pricklesinperil · 19/07/2022 23:20

@SofiaSoFar can I ask for your tips and advice re: business consultancy? I’ve just received my MBA results and received a high Merit. Business consultancy was one of the recommendations from the career review I had and I’d like to pursue that.

@Pricklesinperil

No problem at all, but whether I'd be well placed to help/advise here would really depend on where you are in your career at the moment, I think.

I got into consultancy via many years in operational management roles in multinationals and was supply chain director for EMEA immediately prior to joining the small consultancy I'm with now (been here 9 years(!)). Educationally I did BSc(Hons), MSc and then professional certifications, but no MBA. I was approached by someone looking to appoint a senior/lead SC person for the consultancy and at the time I was half-interested in moving on, so to be fair this job found me rather than me finding the job.

If you're coming from a more theoretical and less operational background I would say try the more traditional consultancy pathways - i.e. the big consulting firms, as they're more likely to have openings for roles with development opportunities.

If you're highly experienced in your specialisation then I'd personally say look for the smaller/niche consultancies.

I've loved pretty much every minute of being with a small consultancy, even with the extensive travel to some not so nice places (we do quite a bit of work in oil and gas so time in Asia/Africa isn't unusual), and it's more like a hobby than a job these days as I'm gradually winding down towards retirement in the next 5 years, but that's definitely not the case in the big consulting firms.

Curiosity101 · 20/07/2022 12:55

@premiumbudget Software engineering? In basic terms... Writing computer code to create software, there's a lot more to it than that, same as any other role, but that's probably the easiest way to describe it.

Software could be a:

  • website
  • mobile app
  • program for analysing data/making business decisions
  • service to allow storing data, computer program
  • game etc

Depending on what your end product/specialism is you'll have different job titles. Some titles include:
Web developer/ front end engineer
Mobile engineer
Services engineer / Java engineer / .Net engineer

Also whilst I specifically mentioned software engineering, not all roles in tech are hands on and coding. There are lots of supporting roles like project managers (ensuring deadlines are planned sensibly, blockers for the teams are effectively dealt with), product leads (the come up with the requirements for the engineers so they know what code to write), testers, cyber security, networking specialists, deployment and tooling specialists. The wages are still relatively high in lots of these supporting roles, there just isn't quite as much demand for them as the software engineers.

Vieve1325 · 20/07/2022 13:49

62k plus car allowance plus bonus - Senior HR Business Partner.

I'll await my execution because MN hates HR folk....

Funkyslippers · 20/07/2022 14:02

Learning Support Assistant in a 6th form college. 20.5 hours a week, term time only. Around £12 an hour

MrsKeats · 20/07/2022 14:07

Part time teacher
35k

Ohnoohdear · 20/07/2022 14:09

I work in retail, £10.75 an hour and am also a pet portrait artist, about £20 an hour.

Both part time as I’m home with toddler though so I bring in around £700 a month.

Itdoesntreallymatter · 20/07/2022 14:16

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 19/07/2022 17:23

WHY do people post these threads? WHY? The vast majority of people on them just make something up.

And it turns into a brag fest, and a race for who can be on the highest salary.

They become littered with posts saying 'I have a 3 university degrees from RG universities, + a masters, and a £1.3 million apartment in London,' and 'I am a big tattooed gobshite who swears like a navvy, and am as working class as they come, but I worked my way up and am on £770K a year and live in a million pound house that I paid for with cash' type posts...

So tedious and predictable. Confused

Director of bullshitting. 250k plus company car and generous bonus. Three degrees in psychology specialising in delusional disorders and pathological lying.

The job is very intense and stressful, especially around caring for my six beautiful, well behaved privately educated kids, but I do still manage to post on at least 50 threads a day on MN.
😂

Will be along again in minute to defensively say people are just jealous of my success when people point out that some people lie about salaries on MN...

Itdoesntreallymatter · 20/07/2022 14:42

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 19/07/2022 17:23

WHY do people post these threads? WHY? The vast majority of people on them just make something up.

And it turns into a brag fest, and a race for who can be on the highest salary.

They become littered with posts saying 'I have a 3 university degrees from RG universities, + a masters, and a £1.3 million apartment in London,' and 'I am a big tattooed gobshite who swears like a navvy, and am as working class as they come, but I worked my way up and am on £770K a year and live in a million pound house that I paid for with cash' type posts...

So tedious and predictable. Confused

Director of bullshitting. 250k plus company car and generous bonus. Three degrees in psychology specialising in delusional disorders.

The job is very intense and stressful, especially around my six beautiful and well behaved privately educated kids, but I do still manage to post on at least 50 threads a day on MN.

Itawapuddytat · 20/07/2022 14:43

sausagepastapot · 19/07/2022 19:35

What language?

An Eastern European language. I have a professional qualification (DPSI) and over 10 years experience.

djdkdkddkek · 20/07/2022 14:44

Local gov 39ish

Weirdlynormal · 20/07/2022 14:57

Itdoesntreallymatter · 20/07/2022 14:42

Director of bullshitting. 250k plus company car and generous bonus. Three degrees in psychology specialising in delusional disorders.

The job is very intense and stressful, especially around my six beautiful and well behaved privately educated kids, but I do still manage to post on at least 50 threads a day on MN.

I’m currently at work waiting for a report to download. I can do what I like as I own the business.

some people are quite successful, you do see those big houses, right?

Lwren · 20/07/2022 15:07

Prior to being unable to work (I'm now a carer, 69 quid a week. It's more than having fuck all so I don't complain) but I earned roughly pennies over minimum wage.
I've always been a low earner, I want to start an etsy when I'm feeling less deflated by life.

ToastTheMost · 20/07/2022 15:10

SofiaSoFar · 20/07/2022 12:37

@Pricklesinperil

No problem at all, but whether I'd be well placed to help/advise here would really depend on where you are in your career at the moment, I think.

I got into consultancy via many years in operational management roles in multinationals and was supply chain director for EMEA immediately prior to joining the small consultancy I'm with now (been here 9 years(!)). Educationally I did BSc(Hons), MSc and then professional certifications, but no MBA. I was approached by someone looking to appoint a senior/lead SC person for the consultancy and at the time I was half-interested in moving on, so to be fair this job found me rather than me finding the job.

If you're coming from a more theoretical and less operational background I would say try the more traditional consultancy pathways - i.e. the big consulting firms, as they're more likely to have openings for roles with development opportunities.

If you're highly experienced in your specialisation then I'd personally say look for the smaller/niche consultancies.

I've loved pretty much every minute of being with a small consultancy, even with the extensive travel to some not so nice places (we do quite a bit of work in oil and gas so time in Asia/Africa isn't unusual), and it's more like a hobby than a job these days as I'm gradually winding down towards retirement in the next 5 years, but that's definitely not the case in the big consulting firms.

I agree with an MBA, you'll be looking to develop a specialty and one of the big consulting houses is the place to do that - unless you had something you specialised in beforehand.
A word of warning - while it's very well paid, the hours can be brutal - especially as you approach project deadlines, expecting to leave early while the team slogs their guts out won't endear you to anyone, it can be a very high-stress environment and some people really struggle with frequently being thrust into a new situation, where they know very little and have to get themselves up to speed and be the expert very quickly to answer unstructured problems in a way that adds value to the client. And while being away for days on end for a few years is less likely now - when a client demands blood, it takes a very secure Partner to say no.

Work2live · 20/07/2022 15:32

I find it bizarre that so many people seem to be ‘against’ these types of threads. If you think they’re bullshit, then take them with a pinch of salt. The vast majority of jobs and salaries quoted on this thread don’t seem like bullshit to me.

As women we should be talking about salary more. The lack of discussion is why women are still earning less than men in 2022. The lack of career guidance or knowledge is why many women don’t know about the opportunities available to them. Shitty employers who offer no flexibility are the reason why so many womens’ careers have to take a back seat if they decide to have kids.

And hey, if you don’t want to be a high earner that’s absolutely your prerogative! Not everyone wants to be career focused, or earn six figures, and there’s nothing wrong with that at all. But it doesn’t give you the right to call bullshit on the thousands of women who are out there earning six figures.

Fairislefandango · 20/07/2022 15:53

I find it bizarre that so many people seem to be ‘against’ these types of threads.

I agree. Some posters on MN seem to be obsessed with trolls, assume that everyone is lying all the time and seem to be massively suspicious about people's motives for starting threads. It's really weird! Weird that they think that, and even weirder that they get so upset/angry about it. If a few people on this thread have, for some unknown reason, entirely made up their job and salary... so what? It doesn't affect anyone else in the slightest!

icedcoffeeplease · 20/07/2022 15:57

Admin, was 19k, now 21k. Full time

noctu · 20/07/2022 17:25

University lecturer, £45k

LadyWhistledownsPen · 20/07/2022 17:42

Finance Assistant at a top Russell Group University. I was on £27k a year but had to go part-time after I had my daughter so now I'm on peanuts , about £16.5k for three days a week

Y7drama · 20/07/2022 17:45

AuntMargo · 19/07/2022 17:21

Isn't that the same as being a parent ?? Disabled or non disabled child

I imagine it is slightly different as you have fewer childcare options.

Mellie555 · 20/07/2022 17:47

Corporate real estate - £107k

i do have an element of guilt that I’m earning that whilst far more important jobs in society earn significantly less

Mellie555 · 20/07/2022 17:52

@luxxlisbon are you client or supplier side? I’m client side (head up Workplace) and client side always earns significantly more than supplier side eg big bonuses and benefits.

workplace strategy roles are in big demand right now; the evolution of the workplace is exploding following the Great Resignation

FrownedUpon · 20/07/2022 17:54

65k. Public Sector.

Proudcarerr · 20/07/2022 17:54

Carer in a Care Home - 10.00 ph, no extra for shift or even bank Holidays or Xmas but I love it..