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Friends didn't "tip"....bit tight?

592 replies

tvsavec · 18/07/2022 15:39

Me and three friends went to a little family run Greek restaurant.
The bill came to around £80 for four of us.
At the end of the meal
Friend 1 put £2 on the table and I also put £2
Friend 3 said "is that for a tip"
We said yeah.....she shouts for the waiter and hands him the £4 and says thanks
They didn't bother to put a couple of pound in each

Aibu to think it's a bit tight?

OP posts:
Nottogetapenny · 18/07/2022 17:44

I do tip! But I think people who work in restaurant’s cafe and such, should get a decent wage without tips being part of it! These days when people are more than likely paying by card, how do we know who gets the tip?

Pippa12 · 18/07/2022 17:44

@Looneytune253 @redbigbananafeet As a few posters have explained above ‘staff’ is meant in the collective term, the staff on shift keep 100% of their tips as oppose to being taken by the owner, both front and back of house.

Thats how staff keep 100% of their tips.

It didn’t really bother me if my tables tipped, I preferred a polite and friendly customers as opposed to a rude folk who looked down their noses at me and then left £10.

I was tipped more often than not.

Harridance · 18/07/2022 17:46

I don't tip in shops so I don't tip anyone is very strange logic

Ravenpuff93 · 18/07/2022 17:50

I am genuinely so shocked at all these comments! I only wouldn’t tip if the service was actually bad. If you can’t afford the tip, you can’t afford the meal imo, and it’s horrible manners not to tip.

OhmygodDont · 18/07/2022 17:50

So for those who tip. Would you say tip in Toby’s where you fetch your own food and refill your own drinks?

I get tipping If your server has been amazing or your a big group ten plus because but just a family meal basic stuff basic service does not deserve a tip.

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 18/07/2022 17:50

rushrushflat · 18/07/2022 17:21

Never tip and never will and if they add a service charge I tell them to take it off. Pay your staff a decent salary or charge more for the meal and ill decide if I want to pay.

I could not give a toss if people have an issue with it. Get a better job if you want that extra pay, like the rest of us.

Why should it be compulsory? This way you still get to decide. I get you decide not to you just pay the menu price and don’t give a shit but tipping is part of our culture in the uk and has been for decades for certain sectors. Taxi, restaurants , hair dressers etc.

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 17:51

On the other hand, I've overheard waiting staff in the kitchen taking the piss out of someone who left a very large tip, as he'd been extremely demanding for the whole meal, and clearly just wanted to impress his friends.

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 17:52

tipping is part of our culture in the uk

It isn't.

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 18/07/2022 17:53

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 17:52

tipping is part of our culture in the uk

It isn't.

It actually is. I’m sorry you’re confused on that score but we have Been tipping for decades as customary practice in certain sectors. The fact you don’t tip doesn’t mean it’s not common culture.

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 17:54

If you can’t afford the tip, you can’t afford the meal imo, and it’s horrible manners not to tip

Lol, bingo!

Tipping is antiquated and unnecessary.

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 17:56

It actually is. I’m sorry you’re confused on that score but we have Been tipping for decades as customary practice in certain sectors. The fact you don’t tip doesn’t mean it’s not common culture

I'm not confused. Please don't patronise me. Some people tip, some people don't tip. Some people tip sometimes. Some people never tip. All of the above for a variety of different reasons. It is not objectively true that we live in a tipping culture.

Glencanto · 18/07/2022 17:57

rushrushflat · 18/07/2022 17:21

Never tip and never will and if they add a service charge I tell them to take it off. Pay your staff a decent salary or charge more for the meal and ill decide if I want to pay.

I could not give a toss if people have an issue with it. Get a better job if you want that extra pay, like the rest of us.

There’s a reasonable range of opinion on this thread.

And one total scumbag.

NellesVilla · 18/07/2022 17:57

I resent paying tips as a meal out is a big deal to me and it’s not my fault if waiting staff aren’t paid well enough. I have never been tipped for any of my past jobs- some in customer service where I’ve gone above and beyond.

If I go out I normally budget for the meal plus a % for the tip but not because I want to, but because I’m expected to.

Incidentally, I know a very wealthy woman decades older than me who never tips. Interesting, eh?

Gnomechange · 18/07/2022 17:57

I would judge anyone who didn’t tip. Waiting tables is hard and there is an expectation that they will get tips and therefore wages are at minimum. Tightness is the most unattractive quality in a person.

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 18/07/2022 17:58

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 17:56

It actually is. I’m sorry you’re confused on that score but we have Been tipping for decades as customary practice in certain sectors. The fact you don’t tip doesn’t mean it’s not common culture

I'm not confused. Please don't patronise me. Some people tip, some people don't tip. Some people tip sometimes. Some people never tip. All of the above for a variety of different reasons. It is not objectively true that we live in a tipping culture.

It is true it is customary in certain sectors. No matter how much it makes you squirm it is. Customary does not mean obligatory.

look if you’re skint or tight just own it instead Of trying to argue the unarguable.🤪

WeAreTheHeroes · 18/07/2022 18:02

I have RTFT but the CF handed the tip over which made it look as though she had contributed. Sly move on her part I'd say.

WeAreTheHeroes · 18/07/2022 18:02

I haven't!

Gwenhwyfar · 18/07/2022 18:03

HollowTalk · 18/07/2022 16:09

I think it's unfair that the kitchen workers and the others don't get a share in tips. I would always leave a tip.

They often do.

EV117 · 18/07/2022 18:04

I worked in hospitality years ago. One DS also has. Unless you have done it you have no idea how damn hard it is.

So much harder than all the other minimum wage jobs where you can’t accept tips? I have nothing against tipping but please don’t act like tips are needed to compensate for the traumatic trials and tribulations specific to being being a waiter. That’s just ridiculous.

glamourousindierockandroll · 18/07/2022 18:05

I tip out of social norms, but I don't like it because I expect the staff to be paid a fair wage and for that to be factored into the cost of a meal.

Waiting staff do not work any harder than many other minimum wage jobs (and yes, I have worked several in my time and come from a family of low paid workers) so I don't see why people wring their hands to tip these staff but not others, just because they're customer facing.

Gwenhwyfar · 18/07/2022 18:05

Tipping is optional. It's up to each person whether they want to tip.
The only thing I don't like is people keeping the tip as their change when paying their share. I've seen it happen often with tight people who wait until the end to pay then steal the tip. I always try to tell everyone to put the tip somewhere separate to avoid this.

daisypond · 18/07/2022 18:05

I generally wouldn’t tip, but if there was no service charge, I probably would. But who carries around coins these days? I would add more to bill. That’s the issue. I rarely have any actual cash any more.

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 18:05

look if you’re skint or tight just own it instead Of trying to argue the unarguable

I have already said I earn £9.92 per hour. I am not ashamed of that as it is my choice. However I don't see why I should tip as it is outdated and unnecessary. None of my waiting staff colleagues or friends expect a tip, and none of them tip themselves. None of my other friends or family outside of that industry tho either.

Just because it is the norm in your circles, doesn't make it the norm everywhere. Imagine that!

The argument that it is customary in certain sectors is outdated. The world has moved on. I'd be interested to know what percentage of people tip vs those who don't, but it seems from my experience in the industry that a majority of people don't, or just leave a few £s, way below 10% to 'round up'.

pedropony76 · 18/07/2022 18:06

The comments are so crazy to me😂

People are acting like if you don’t tip then the staff are going home with £0 in their account for the month. They get paid a wage. It’s not like the US were the staff literally depend on tips to make up most of their wage (which is batshit anyway).

I’ve never tipped and never will. I’ve never felt like I’ve received AMAZING service and even when I receive good service, they’re just doing their job so why tip them? I only tip my nail lady and hairdresser because they really do a great job and give exceptional service every single time.

I’m not going to tip someone for simply doing their job. OP, I also find it quite weird that you can go out for a meal with your friends and then come on MN to see if other people think they’re tight. Surely you could have said ‘how come you guys didn’t leave a tip’ or something along those lines…

pedropony76 · 18/07/2022 18:07

Also what’s the point in even tipping £2? I feel like if you’re gonna tip £2 you may as well tip nothing