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Friends didn't "tip"....bit tight?

592 replies

tvsavec · 18/07/2022 15:39

Me and three friends went to a little family run Greek restaurant.
The bill came to around £80 for four of us.
At the end of the meal
Friend 1 put £2 on the table and I also put £2
Friend 3 said "is that for a tip"
We said yeah.....she shouts for the waiter and hands him the £4 and says thanks
They didn't bother to put a couple of pound in each

Aibu to think it's a bit tight?

OP posts:
Redglitter · 18/07/2022 17:21

My niece worked in a hotel last year. They had to hand all their tips in & never saw them again. It was a disgrace.

Don't assume the staff actually get to keep them

Harridance · 18/07/2022 17:21

Even then she's embarrassing herself by taking ownership of handing over only 5% tip

redbigbananafeet · 18/07/2022 17:21

Pippa12 · 18/07/2022 16:03

My husband manages restaurants, all staff keep 100% of their tips, even the kitchen receive a fair share.

I worked I. Restaurants when I was younger, also kept 100% of my tips.

Its a misconception that they majority of staff get their tips taken from them.

The only deduction is the tax the staff pay.

How do all staff keep 100% of their tips if the kitchen get a share? Where does that share come from?

Hatsoff5 · 18/07/2022 17:23

Its not tight. Service charges add up tbh if your dining on a weekly basis.

charity starts at home!

Harridance · 18/07/2022 17:26

Tipping is not charity

Hatsoff5 · 18/07/2022 17:27

rookiemere · 18/07/2022 17:04

But if each person tipped £2 that's 10% which is £8 in total, it's hardly stingy.

Exactly £8 per table.... all day and that's at Least!. Most staff don't get to keep the tips I think those days have gone. Long gone. The company will take a cut so who are you all tipping?

Misunderestimated · 18/07/2022 17:28

19lottie82 · 18/07/2022 16:09

People who don’t tip are crap in bed.

And yet, if you leave a twenty on the dressing table on your way out in the morning, you get little or no gratitude.

Hatsoff5 · 18/07/2022 17:28

Harridance · 18/07/2022 17:26

Tipping is not charity

Look up the phrase and then post the ansew.

MyGirlDaisy · 18/07/2022 17:30

I worked in hospitality years ago. One DS also has. Unless you have done it you have no idea how damn hard it is. With the exception of one occasion where the service was truly dreadful I always tip. Very tight not to.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 18/07/2022 17:30

19lottie82 · 18/07/2022 16:09

People who don’t tip are crap in bed.

I laughed at that, and then I thought actually, in my experience it's true. Mean people are mean in all sorts of ways. You could use people's restaurant behaviour to screen out potential lovers you're really not going to have a good time with!

Foamonthecreek · 18/07/2022 17:32

What about cafes / bakeries / coffee shops? I’ve worked in these for over 15 years often making the food, serving the customer, waiting on the tables and pot washing etc. we never get tips, so why should I tip when I go out when they’re doing only a fraction of the work I and my colleagues do and usually for more money?

Nutella99 · 18/07/2022 17:32

Maybe they didn't have any cash, or only had notes? Pretty common these days when you pay for nearly everything by card.

Harridance · 18/07/2022 17:33

Put notes in then!

MyneighbourisTotoro · 18/07/2022 17:34

I don’t care if people think I’m tight but I don’t ever tip, we work for minimum wage same as the waiting staff and we don’t get tips! It’s pointless, tipping is an American thing because the staff there are paid pennies in comparison to over here.

Hatsoff5 · 18/07/2022 17:35

Felixsmama · 18/07/2022 16:29

You don't have to tip it's the not the USA people make a wage here.

The Candians were like this in Domician Republic. I loved then but I thought they were extremely premutious about tipping.
I think it's bad manners along with some on here.... just because your having a meal in a restaurant how can one be so entitled to expect and impose that others that they should tip. Why??? Is nobody earning minium wage but dining out also in a restaurant also?!

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 17:36

Can people comparing tipping behaviour to bedroom behaviour please quit with the misogyny, please. I'm not frigid because I don't tip FFS.

Harridance · 18/07/2022 17:37

Misogyny? It's referring to men and women

BitOutOfPractice · 18/07/2022 17:38

rushrushflat · 18/07/2022 17:21

Never tip and never will and if they add a service charge I tell them to take it off. Pay your staff a decent salary or charge more for the meal and ill decide if I want to pay.

I could not give a toss if people have an issue with it. Get a better job if you want that extra pay, like the rest of us.

Wow!

do you say that about nurses. And other essential workers too?

just wow.

Harridance · 18/07/2022 17:38

Foamonthecreek, if you had served me I would have tipped you

Blameofmylife · 18/07/2022 17:39

Some restaurants in England (high end ones) assume that waiting staff get tips and underpay them accordingly. A friend of mine used to work in one in London,

For the people saying tipping makes no sense- I pay for good service as it’s an incentive to give it. Recently had terrible customer service and we asked for it to be taken off the bill.

LikeADogWithABone · 18/07/2022 17:39

Pippa12 · 18/07/2022 16:03

My husband manages restaurants, all staff keep 100% of their tips, even the kitchen receive a fair share.

I worked I. Restaurants when I was younger, also kept 100% of my tips.

Its a misconception that they majority of staff get their tips taken from them.

The only deduction is the tax the staff pay.

Out of interest do employees who are on still on their probation period included in the tips.

A lot of eating places don't share tips with new employees. You have to ask. We had a new chain restaurant open in our town. I asked if staff got the tips and the guy said they got a 100% of tip. I asked if new staff got tips and he sheepishly told me they didn't. I asked how many staff were existing staff ( Ie had come from other branches). It was three and they were all the managers!

So for at least three months or more the managers will be pocketing the tips. Probation periods can be 3 to six months. A lot of eating places seem to be 4 months.

One of my kids regularly did 50-60+ hours a week (yes really!) at Cafe Nero and the tips were taken by the two managers, one only worked 4 hours a week. 😡😡😡People gave tips directly for my kid but she couldn't keep them. She did tell people if they asked. Tips aren't massive at coffee shops but they add up.

LikeADogWithABone · 18/07/2022 17:39

Sorry forgot to answer OPs question. Yes your friend was tight

Kite22 · 18/07/2022 17:41

BarbaraofSeville · 18/07/2022 15:46

No its not tight, tipping makes no sense and we need to stop judging people for not tipping a small subset of service workers.

No-one tips retail workers, fast food counter staff, cleaners or care workers. So why is considered 'tight' to not give extra money to waiting staff in restaurants who get paid a similar amount for doing similar work?

This ^

The question about whether we should tip in the UK, comes up very, very often on here, and you will never get the tippers and the non-tippers to agree.

I'm in the 'no, she wasn't tight' half. She bought a product (the meal) for the price it was advertised as.
This week, I haven't tipped my exercise class leader, my cleaner, my (self employed) hairdresser, the bloke at the garage who fixed the car, the chap at the supermarket on the till, the lady in the other shop who I asked where something was, the lady who was cleaning the toilets in the shopping centre, the chap cutting the grass in the park when I walked through, the postman, the Amazon delivery driver, the delivery driver from the other company, the chap in the chip shop, the person who brought me a coffee in the cafe I went in to, and probably dozens of other people who don't earn huge wages, but also work hard. Not sure why waiters are so different.

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 17:41

I pay for good service as it’s an incentive to give it

Like little doggies being cute for treats? Everyone should receive the same, good service, regardless of whether a tip is paid or not.

Blameofmylife · 18/07/2022 17:41

To answer OPs question. Yes it’s tight. If you don’t want to pay for customer service, go somewhere like macdonalds or Nando’s where you do the ordering yourself

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