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Don’t want to “make friends” with neighbour’s dog…

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 18:58

NC for this. Sorry it's long!

Small backstory: Neighbour has a yappy dog that never stops, it comes right up to the fence in our back garden and barks incessantly whenever any of us go into the garden. It also barks at passers by on the street - it literally follows them along the fence yapping incessantly as they walk down the street. Neighbour does very little to address this - the occasion half hearted “stop that (name of dog)”, but it doesn’t listen to her and she doesn’t physically remove it. Last year I had a word with the neighbour about this through the fence - the barking was so bad it was upsetting my then newborn aged baby as we sat in the garden. She argued back with me and was generally unpleasant, so I threatened to report her if it didn’t stop. This was around 12 months ago and I’ve had no interactions with her since. The dog has done its usual nuisance barking at the fence when we’ve been out in the garden but I’ve largely tried to ignore it, and now that DD is a bit older she isn’t as startled or bothered by it. So we just largely ignore now.

Today I took DD (now 15 months) out in the garden to play. I sat on the grass relaxing whilst she played. Yappy dog approached the fence as per usual, but we were far enough away from the fence that I could mostly tune it out and just focus on playing with DD. DD didn’t seem remotely bothered by it either. I was then aware of neighbour approaching the fence and heard her say “oh are you saying hello (dogs name)?” Dog continued to incessantly yap. I ignored and continued to play with DD.

Next thing I heard “excuse me can I talk to you?“ through the fence. The fence is too high to see over it, and you can just about make out a person through the slats but I couldn’t really see her. I said “sorry, do you mean me?” (Not really able to see anyone at this point, just a shadow through the fence, and I was also sat a good few feet away from the fence. She said “yes”. I said “erm, yeah I suppose, I can’t see you but I can hear you”. She said “I’m sorry my dog barks and annoys you”. I replied “that’s ok” and then continued to engage with DD who was toddling around (so my attention was more focussed on her and I honestly didn’t want to have any interaction with anyone else at that point). I was hoping this would end the conversation. She continued: “if you made friends with her, she wouldn’t bark at you”. I just again decided to give a one word answer in the hope she would disengage from me as all I wanted to do was relax and play with DD. I replied again “right, ok”. She then continued… “if you made friends with her she wouldn’t bark and then you wouldn’t complain, would you”.

At this point I got irritated as she was pushing an unwanted conversation and also implying I had “complained” when I’d had one interaction with her about this a whole year ago where I’d threatened to complain but not followed that through, and also not mentioned the dog to her since.

I replied: “I just want to enjoy my garden with my DD. I don’t want to have to make friends with a dog through the fence. If your dog is barking constantly it’s because you aren’t training her properly, and that’s up to you to address. It’s not down to other people to make friends with your dog”.

It was more than I wanted to invest in the interaction but to be honest she had annoyed me by that point.

She then said, randomly, “how old is your daughter now?” I replied with her age. In between I was playing with DD and interacting with her, hoping neighbour would get the hint that I didn’t want to engage with her. She then said “what’s her name?” I replied with her name. Just one word answers to try to end it. She then said “ok. I just thought we could be friends that’s all”. Then she (presumably) walked off back to her house (like I say, limited visibility through the fence).

The whole interaction was just so random. Firstly I hadn’t commented on her dog, I was minding my own business and playing with DD. Also a whole year has passed since our last interaction so why approach me now? It would have made sense if I’d complained there and then about the dog, but I’d said nothing. I was just ignoring it as I usually do.

If it’s relevant this isn’t a next door neighbour as such. It’s hard to explain but we are a detached house and her back garden and mine back share a boundary fence. Our houses are nowhere near each other and are actually on separate streets. I am friends with my next door neighbour, by choice, who is lovely. I have no desire to be friends with this other neighbour or her dog.

Was I mean or unreasonable to not want to be friends with either her or her dog? When I'm in my garden I just want to relax and enjoy my garden and my daughter. Is this reasonable? Also, should random people be expected to befriend dogs, or is the onus on the owners to stop the barking regardless?

Any thoughts welcomed.

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TJakes5 · 18/07/2022 15:11

randomdogfriend · 18/07/2022 15:09

How's that baby BTW?

She's absolutely beautiful and perfect, thanks for asking.

Be irritating people in restaurants etc. soon enough. What goes around comes around.

Afrodizzyak · 18/07/2022 15:12

Loveisnotloving · 18/07/2022 14:57

Ahhhhh DAY 3 in the Yip Yappy House and Miss Yappy is still a yappin' about how she is right about the neighbour yappin' over the fence about the dog yappin'!

Such entertainment.

This .
So much fuss about nothing.

randomdogfriend · 18/07/2022 15:16

Be irritating people in restaurants etc. soon enough.

Only miserable fuckers. She gets cooed over in restaurants all the time by nice, kind people, and they are the only people I'm interested in engaging with. Thankfully there are lots of them around in my life and my community 😀

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Lalosalamanca · 18/07/2022 15:16

TJakes5 · 18/07/2022 15:11

Be irritating people in restaurants etc. soon enough. What goes around comes around.

Noooooo!!! Noway would OPs child do such a thing!!! Don't be silly. She "perfect".

Huntswomanonthemove · 18/07/2022 15:19

It's definitely up to her to train her dog. I hate it when dog owners suggest that their dog's bad behaviour is somehow my fault.

I love dogs and I have a dog.

AryaStarkWolf · 18/07/2022 15:30

randomdogfriend · 18/07/2022 15:08

She's not some randomer on the street approaching you though is she? She's your next door neighbour :/

Nope. She's not. Read the Op, 👍🏻

Her hous backs on to yours, not much bloody difference, she's still not some random stranger trying to befriend you and your baby ffs

randomdogfriend · 18/07/2022 15:45

she's still not some random stranger trying to befriend you and your baby ffs

I disagree. That's exactly what she is. I don't know her anymore than I know a random person in the street. That makes her a stranger to me. The fact that our back gardens share a boundary does not bond us instantly in some way. Strange concept. Confused

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JauntyJinty · 18/07/2022 15:53

I think the import part the people saying some version of "she's trying to be friendly" keep missing are that she was rude to OP, and happy to leave her to listen to the yappy dog for a year.

It's only now she wants something from OP that's she's trying to be all pally pally.

Huntswomanonthemove · 18/07/2022 15:53

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Classy. 🙄

randomdogfriend · 18/07/2022 15:54

@AryaStarkWolf

Likewise.

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ApplesandBunions · 18/07/2022 15:56

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Erm, what?

randomdogfriend · 18/07/2022 15:58

And yet again... the irony is that I have repeatedly been called "nasty" and "rude" with not one reasonable attempt to evidence that from my OP.

And yet.... I have so far been called a "twat", and "a proper arsehole" and told I am "up my own arse", as well as having my parenting of my baby brought into question; and some attempts at downright bullying.

All whilst I manage to conduct myself on this thread without resorting to insults or name calling, or personal attacks.

I have had no comments deleted - at least 5 pps have had theirs deleted. There's the evidence, right there.

It's definitely not be who's the "nasty" or "rude" one.

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randomdogfriend · 18/07/2022 15:58

@TJakes5

That is utterly disgraceful. You should be ashamed. How vile.

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randomdogfriend · 18/07/2022 16:00

Oooh look - once again it's not me getting disgusting bullying personal attacks removed!

Sorry - who is the nasty one again?

Vile individuals around here. Utterly unpleasant through and through.

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TJakes5 · 18/07/2022 16:00

ApplesandBunions · 18/07/2022 15:56

Erm, what?

People that don't like animals and see neighbours as strangers. Weird.

Huntswomanonthemove · 18/07/2022 16:03

Perhaps you should ask for this thread to be deleted @randomdogfriend , it's bringing out the worst in some people. Perhaps it's the heat? Sorry you're having to deal with these unpleasant posts.

ApplesandBunions · 18/07/2022 16:03

TJakes5 · 18/07/2022 16:00

People that don't like animals and see neighbours as strangers. Weird.

Can you tell us more about what qualifies you to diagnose people with personality disorders through the internet?

randomdogfriend · 18/07/2022 16:04

@TJakes5

  1. I DO like animals - you've completely made that up. I just don't want to befriend badly trained yappy ones

  2. I am close to my NDN - if you'd stopped hurling vicious insults for long enough to read my comments properly you'd have seen that. So I don't view "neighbours as strangers". I view anyone I have never spoken to long enough to get to know them, as strangers.

Because, y'know, that's the very definition of a stranger. 🙄

Now - I will not be interacting with you any further. Your comment was utterly vile and out of order and I want nothing more to do with you.

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ApplesandBunions · 18/07/2022 16:04

Using personality disorders as an insult is such a piece of shit thing to do.

randomdogfriend · 18/07/2022 16:05

Huntswomanonthemove · 18/07/2022 16:03

Perhaps you should ask for this thread to be deleted @randomdogfriend , it's bringing out the worst in some people. Perhaps it's the heat? Sorry you're having to deal with these unpleasant posts.

Those last few have actually really got to me, tbh.

I'm not responding to vicious bullies anymore. Disgusting small people. I'm done with it. It's so far out of order.

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randomdogfriend · 18/07/2022 16:06

ApplesandBunions · 18/07/2022 16:04

Using personality disorders as an insult is such a piece of shit thing to do.

Disgusting. Reflects SO badly on that person. No one else.

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randomdogfriend · 18/07/2022 16:07

@AryaStarkWolf
@TJakes5

Take a long look at yourselves. Your online bullying is disgusting.

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