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To not understand the constant panic

604 replies

Panicnomore · 15/07/2022 17:42

I'm finding it so incredulous to see the level of panic and hysteria on here about a 2 day heatwave.
Posters seem to be hyping each other up. Can humans no longer cope with anything outside of their comfort zone?

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TuftyMarmoset · 15/07/2022 21:03

noirchatsdeux · 15/07/2022 20:59

I'm Australian so you Brits are making me laugh a lot right now.

Have you ever been to Britain? All of our buildings are designed to retain heat. None of our infrastructure is designed to withstand 40 degree heat. It would be like Australia experiencing blizzards.

GlacindaTheTroll · 15/07/2022 21:05

But Ms Buzyn said, thanks to preventative measures, the rate was 10 times lower than the same period in 2003 when a deadly heatwave hit Europe

Kinda glad that we have warnings of potentially dangerous weather so that preventative measures can be taken here too

fuckboris · 15/07/2022 21:05

Readyourownbookmoira · 15/07/2022 21:03

@TuftyMarmoset not lucky, how many of those that died in 2003 were healthy 23 year olds. Surely most were very frail old people already dehydrated in hospital or care homes.
Same narrative as Covid, pretending everyone is at huge risk when in reality it’s people who are already not in great shape to ramp up the fear and justify the hysteria.

Let them die then, so you don't have to watch a weather forecast and click on threads about people's genuine concerns?

MrsEdnaWelthorpe · 15/07/2022 21:05

noirchatsdeux · 15/07/2022 20:59

I'm Australian so you Brits are making me laugh a lot right now.

Not sure Australia is a country to be emulating in coping with the heat- you do have the highest rate of skin cancer in the world Hmm And when I lived there in the 90s the government had to actually run an ad campaign to explain what to do in the sun... anyone remember "slip, slop, slap"? Slip on a t shirt, slop on some sun screen, slap on a hat....

Panicnomore · 15/07/2022 21:05

@antifascist Wow just wow. Did you not read the bit where I said I'm a hotel housekeeper and will be changing 20beds on both Mon and Tues. And not in all AC rooms. If you are going to insult be personally at least get my job right!
O and here in Manchester we are also predicted 34c.

Im so sorry this thread has turned quite so nasty. Thanks to the posters who have tried to inject some humour. Not sure what's going on with hysterical Mumsnet these days.

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TuftyMarmoset · 15/07/2022 21:07

Readyourownbookmoira · 15/07/2022 21:03

@TuftyMarmoset not lucky, how many of those that died in 2003 were healthy 23 year olds. Surely most were very frail old people already dehydrated in hospital or care homes.
Same narrative as Covid, pretending everyone is at huge risk when in reality it’s people who are already not in great shape to ramp up the fear and justify the hysteria.

Jesus Christ, how many times do people have to say it’s not just the vulnerable at risk? Here is what the Met Office have said:
Population-wide adverse health effects experienced, not limited to those most vulnerable to extreme heat, leading to serious illness or danger to life

Eeksteek · 15/07/2022 21:07

whenwillthemadnessend · 15/07/2022 19:42

@Eeksteek

"The thing I get miffed about is being in urged to check on elderly neighbours. And do what, exactly? Fan them? Do people not live to old age in other countries? Do they not having running water or openable windows or something? I mean, what can I actually do that they can’t?"

Arnt you the caring soul. God forbid you get old and frail one day.

I will cheerfully go out of my way to help anyone vulnerable IF there’s anything I can do. I just don’t see what I could actually do. (And I also think it’s a bit patronising to assume that someone is incapable of coping with a perfectly normal event just because they are older, especially when the advice is not to go out in the sun and drink plenty of water. It’s not like we need to draw it from the well!)

ThePumpkinPatch · 15/07/2022 21:07

thenewduchessoflapland · 15/07/2022 18:12

I have a kid with who suffers from dysautonomia

(heat intolerance);it's caused by another medical condition they have,because of the high temps predicted where we are we're going away to the coast for a few days where it'll be much cooler than our city.

I have this as well due to my MS, I'm absolutely dreading it! I can't afford to go to the coast for a few days or even a hotel room for one night so I'll just have to spend most of the time in a cold bath! 🔥

PinkStarAtNight · 15/07/2022 21:07

Its great for you if you're not the type of person who suffers in heat, but that doesn't mean that others don't.

Some people are vulnerable because of age or underlying health conditions. Some people just have an intolerance of high temperatures and can feel very ill in the heat. If you don't have adequate air con it can be awful.

I work from home in a house that is built to retain heat. I also suffer in the heat more than others. This last Monday when temperatures were high there was NOWHERE in the house that was cool. It felt like there was no air to breathe anywhere I went. I went outside hoping to breathe easier and outside was even worse. I honestly felt like I was going to pass out a few times. I was sitting at my desk trying to work with the fan right in front of me, a wet flannel on my head, my feet in a bowl of cold water and an ice cold bottle of water next to me. All those things made me feel slightly better. They made it just about bearable, so that I could just about do my job and not pass out. But it was incredibly unpleasant and difficult to work and I was genuinely worried about myself a few times. So yes, I'm anxious next week. It might just be two days, but thats a long time when you're suffering.

If someone told you that you had to go sit in hell for 48 hours would you be ok with it because it was 'just two days' ? For some people these two days will be a kind of hell.

You might not be panicking and that's great. But everyone has different circumstances, different house set up, different working environments. And whats wrong with putting out warnings to protect vulnerable people and sharing tips and advice on how to cope?

Readyourownbookmoira · 15/07/2022 21:08

@antifascist if you’ve got little kids you’re probably not at an age where you’re too vulnerable to the heat. Also if it’s a choice between £4.50 a week or death then I think £4.50 a week is quite reasonable.

bellac11 · 15/07/2022 21:08

TuftyMarmoset · 15/07/2022 21:03

Have you ever been to Britain? All of our buildings are designed to retain heat. None of our infrastructure is designed to withstand 40 degree heat. It would be like Australia experiencing blizzards.

Except according to various groups and media articles we have terrible insulation in our homes, which is it?

In fact there is an article today in the Guardian where the general gist of the comments is that the better insulated the property is, the better it is for keeping you cool.

antifascist · 15/07/2022 21:10

Panicnomore · 15/07/2022 21:05

@antifascist Wow just wow. Did you not read the bit where I said I'm a hotel housekeeper and will be changing 20beds on both Mon and Tues. And not in all AC rooms. If you are going to insult be personally at least get my job right!
O and here in Manchester we are also predicted 34c.

Im so sorry this thread has turned quite so nasty. Thanks to the posters who have tried to inject some humour. Not sure what's going on with hysterical Mumsnet these days.

I didn't spot that. I hope your employer has proper temperature controls and modfications for you.

I jsut read you making remarks ridiculing people's concerns and blaming the parents- so maybe if you don't like the nastiness on the thread why not be alittle bit nicer youself

how utterly unresiliant we have become or how terrified of life certain people are. It's hardly surprising so many kids have anxiety issues these days.
It must be taught behaviour from parents surely.

Daftasabroom · 15/07/2022 21:10

Panicnomore · 15/07/2022 18:55

@Daftasabroom judging by some of the venom on this thread already I would say we are already screwed. It this how people are going to react every summer.....

Or wait what if the next 40c happens in 3 weeks and 3 weeks after that. Will people still be demanding schools and work places to close every time. This is the UK reality now.

People will be dying, what don't you get?

Theluggage15 · 15/07/2022 21:11

There’s always drama llamas on mumsnet and elsewhere unfortunately. The Met Office name every passing breeze these days, they love a bit of panic. Lots of countries which aren’t built for heat cope with unusually hot temperatures without the panic seen here. It’s embarrassing. And no, U.K. homes are not generally well insulated, no idea why this nonsense keeps getting trotted out.

Cornettoninja · 15/07/2022 21:11

Be terrified of covid, forget covid look at Ukraine, enough about Ukraine look at monkeypox, ok now look here polio, hold on here we go back to covid, no wait its going to be hot for 2 days. Just give it a fucking rest

I suppose it depends through what kind of lens your viewing that information. The common denominator is that we don’t have the infrastructure to deal with the fallout of any of those things being ‘a bit of a problem’.

anything threatening the NHS puts my DP and DF’s lives in mortal danger. That’s not hyperbole, if there isn’t a quick ambulance response or lots of pressure on A&E then we’re functioning on a tightrope. That’s where we are now without weather adding to the problem in a way that isn’t easy to mitigate.

if this kind of news doesn’t provoke fear then honestly, I’m really pleased for you, but please understand that there are a sizeable amount of people whose concerns go beyond just getting through. the next few days and are genuinely in more danger than they were a week ago. People who aren’t affected in the same way but are consciously following advice to avoid potential dangers are really helpful to those who can’t avoid the same dangers.

There’s no compulsion for anyone to do the same but please don’t dismiss how fragile the health service is and how many people’s lives literally depend on it. we all have to die at some point, but most people take advantage of everything available not to and it’s not a nice place to be to be told that you might not get chance.

TuftyMarmoset · 15/07/2022 21:11

bellac11 · 15/07/2022 21:08

Except according to various groups and media articles we have terrible insulation in our homes, which is it?

In fact there is an article today in the Guardian where the general gist of the comments is that the better insulated the property is, the better it is for keeping you cool.

Didn’t you just answer your own question? Our houses are poorly insulated (and have lack of shading, shutters, too much glass etc) meaning all the heat comes in. The design of our houses mean they absorb heat all day and release it at night. In the winter they lose the heat quickly because the outside is cold. When it’s hot like this they just stay hot.

Echobelly · 15/07/2022 21:12

I mean, different people will be at different levels here. I can kind of see why people with young children might be worried about them being not in their care in quite extreme weather in case they overdo it, and yes, I know healthy people, can die in hot weather but it's incredibly unlikely unless their doing something strenuous in continuous full sunlight and no one's going to be letting kids do that.

I hate that degree of heat and it makes me feel like crap, but I have been out for most of a day in it and it's just about copeable. I'm not worried about it for myself, but I do know people will be understandably worried for older and vulnerable relatives.

AuntieStella · 15/07/2022 21:12

Not sure what's going on with hysterical Mumsnet these days

I never think it's a good idea to label MN as hysterical (just look at the root of the word FFS), nor to slag off MNetters wholsale.

Chances are you'll be saying MNers are all bitches next

Cornettoninja · 15/07/2022 21:12

Daftasabroom · 15/07/2022 21:10

People will be dying, what don't you get?

Although, for balance, if our NHS was properly funded and staffed it genuinely wouldn’t be as much of a problem.

Suzi888 · 15/07/2022 21:12

I’m on the fence.
In one way YANBU why do people go on holiday, where it’s HOT? Why bother, why aren’t they scared? Strewth I’ve been to Turkey and rocked up at a hotel with broken air con. People slept on loungers by the pool.

On the other hand DM would never go and has never been abroad, hates heat. She’s 80 and she will drink water, rest, has good fans but she will feel sick etc.

heattreat · 15/07/2022 21:12

I wouldn’t be confident about the Tube service on Monday. I just came through Liverpool Street and there were signs up saying there would be reduced services.
Btw 2000 people in the U.K. died because of the 2003 heatwave so lucky you for being ok.

Lucky you , that's a one in 59.65 million, hardly lucky!

Jesus, please reassess!

bellac11 · 15/07/2022 21:13

PinkStarAtNight · 15/07/2022 21:07

Its great for you if you're not the type of person who suffers in heat, but that doesn't mean that others don't.

Some people are vulnerable because of age or underlying health conditions. Some people just have an intolerance of high temperatures and can feel very ill in the heat. If you don't have adequate air con it can be awful.

I work from home in a house that is built to retain heat. I also suffer in the heat more than others. This last Monday when temperatures were high there was NOWHERE in the house that was cool. It felt like there was no air to breathe anywhere I went. I went outside hoping to breathe easier and outside was even worse. I honestly felt like I was going to pass out a few times. I was sitting at my desk trying to work with the fan right in front of me, a wet flannel on my head, my feet in a bowl of cold water and an ice cold bottle of water next to me. All those things made me feel slightly better. They made it just about bearable, so that I could just about do my job and not pass out. But it was incredibly unpleasant and difficult to work and I was genuinely worried about myself a few times. So yes, I'm anxious next week. It might just be two days, but thats a long time when you're suffering.

If someone told you that you had to go sit in hell for 48 hours would you be ok with it because it was 'just two days' ? For some people these two days will be a kind of hell.

You might not be panicking and that's great. But everyone has different circumstances, different house set up, different working environments. And whats wrong with putting out warnings to protect vulnerable people and sharing tips and advice on how to cope?

I hate the heat. I get quite ill if it goes above 24.

I work in an office with massive windows, no air con, no window coverings and paperthin walls. Its like working in a greenhouse

I am somewhat aligned with the OP's gist (which seemed somewhat lighthearted until the perpetually offended and angry appeared) despite the fact that I hate the heat and dont cope at all well.

antifascist · 15/07/2022 21:14

Readyourownbookmoira · 15/07/2022 21:08

@antifascist if you’ve got little kids you’re probably not at an age where you’re too vulnerable to the heat. Also if it’s a choice between £4.50 a week or death then I think £4.50 a week is quite reasonable.

People of parental age you might not be vulnerable to the heat (as long as you don't have heart condition or bad circualtion or any other underlying conditions. But your young kids are e likely to be vulberable tot he he`t

Despite the Kemi Badenoch cheerladers millions of households can't afford £4.50 a week. or the electricity to run the machines.

They probably wouldn't get credit either

bellac11 · 15/07/2022 21:15

AuntieStella · 15/07/2022 21:12

Not sure what's going on with hysterical Mumsnet these days

I never think it's a good idea to label MN as hysterical (just look at the root of the word FFS), nor to slag off MNetters wholsale.

Chances are you'll be saying MNers are all bitches next

You dont think its a 'good idea'.

Whats that mean to mean, is someone going to come and speak to the poster and give them a telling off??

This site is hilariously hysterical. Its pure entertainment. Every second word is triggered, traumatised, vulnerable, victim, red flags.

thefatpotato · 15/07/2022 21:15

I'm not panicking about the hot weather- I'm from another country where these temps are the norm, and often more extreme heat is just a part of summer.

I am a little panicked about record temperatures being set and starting to see the effects of climate change. Wildfires in Europe (and parts of the U.K.) aren't normal. This heat isn't normal. We'll be fine for those two days next week. But what about when in several years time when we're seeing prolonged stints of temperatures like this, with little rainfall for months? That's what has me panicking a little.