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Does your DC primary school allow squash through a hot day?

381 replies

Neowwwm · 11/07/2022 09:03

Sent my DC with a non- see through bottle with juice in today as since weaning and trying - DC has never drank plain water. Teacher removed the bottle stating water only in the day which will be provided with their own water bottles from school and juice only at lunch time.

AIBU or should this rule be relaxed during heatwaves?

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RockinHorseShit · 11/07/2022 12:12

@Silverswirl

Someone has a different opinion to you. Swearing and name calling belongs in the playground and won’t alter my opinion I’m afraid. Thankfully I am free to have a discussion and yet make my voice heard. Your patronising put downs won’t change that.

Facts are not opinions. 🙄

TheGreatBobinsky · 11/07/2022 12:13

Pixies74 · 11/07/2022 12:03

This.

If you introduce a sugary drink from yound childhood, then of course they're going to prefer that and go off water.

If water's the only thing they've known, there's no reason for them to go off it...

And I can see how those with certain sen can have more extreme reactions to having it if they prefer eg squash, but do their additional needs mean they have a genetic aversion to it if they've never had anything else? Genuine question!

This argument doesn't work though because I actually did end up in hospital as a child because I refused water, and my mum had never given me anything other than formula or water until that point. My eldest very nearly ended up in hospital when she got a UTI because she wouldn't drink, and again she hadn't had anything other than formula or water until that point because I didn't want her to be like me. My youngest then was the same and I think the only reason she has never been quite so poorly is because she is breastfed.

RuthW · 11/07/2022 12:14

When I was at school it was water only at lunchtime. Nothing during the day except water fountain at playtime. I refused to drink water so had nothing from 8.30-3.30.

He will be ok with just lunchtime drinks.

AmyDudley · 11/07/2022 12:14

I think in this especially hot weather you get your priorities sorted out. In this case the priority is that children do no get dehydrated and become unwell. All other considerations are secondary to this IMO.

Yes in an ideal world children aren't drinking squash all day (although when I was a child ribena was promoted as a health drink because it had vitamin C and we drank it continously), but if that is all they will drink then so be it. better squash than thirsty. I never had this constant spilling problem people seem to fear - and the children I taught drank out of beakers, so with bottles even less of a problem.

I've lived in a very hot country and the priority is you keep dehydrated, you never go anywhere without a drink, drinks are always available, doesn't matter what they drink, just make sure they do. Dehydration can lead to all sorts of nasty problems.

coffeecupsandfairylights · 11/07/2022 12:15

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Yes - that's the reality for many people with sensory conditions like autism.

Yet numerous posters on here have decided that it's the parents fault and children would obviously drink water if they were never offered anything else 🙄

Silverswirl · 11/07/2022 12:15

rainbowmilk · 11/07/2022 12:09

I have sympathy with both the kids and the teachers. One of my teacher friends has a class of 32 and 2/3 of the kids have parents who insist they have additional needs. The school has a water only rule but in that class those 2/3 bring in whatever they want (including on one occasion red bull) and the parents kick off if anything is said,. This isn’t uncommon for the school.

I’m sure there must be genuine cases in there but unfortunately it makes it harder for them to be heard when the majority is claiming that they’re also in that category.

Absolutely. Completely agree.

Doris899 · 11/07/2022 12:16

Have you looked into those air up products? They are water but you put a flavoured pod at the top of the bottle and it makes the kid thing they are drinking juice due to the smell. Comes in different fallout pods for variety too.

SexyLittleNosferatu · 11/07/2022 12:20

CuppaTeaAndSammich · 11/07/2022 10:58

Why is it bad? I've drank heavily diluted sugar free squash (yes, it exists!) all my life, brush my teeth well and I am 30 with no fillings or decay. I have 6 month dental checks and each time they give me the all clear and praise me for my good hygiene. Tap water in my area tastes like crap and I refuse to keep buying plastic bottles of water

There's nothing wrong with squash. It's just the usual mumsnet ridiculousness. Chucking around terms like chemicals and sugary in a bid to prove they're the world's best mummy. Pathetic really.

MrsRhodes · 11/07/2022 12:20

TheSoundOfLunch · 11/07/2022 09:16

There is no “additional need” that means a child should have a sugary drink rather than water.

What an ignorant attitude you have.

Children with autism, ARFID or SED often struggle with plain water. I am very lucky my youngest autistic child with ARFID will only drink water, however my eldest child with autism wouldn't drink water at all and would actually become dehydrated rather than drink water.

Please go away and educate yourself before you start spouting your ignorant rantings from your high horse.

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 11/07/2022 12:21

Pixies74 · 11/07/2022 12:03

This.

If you introduce a sugary drink from yound childhood, then of course they're going to prefer that and go off water.

If water's the only thing they've known, there's no reason for them to go off it...

And I can see how those with certain sen can have more extreme reactions to having it if they prefer eg squash, but do their additional needs mean they have a genetic aversion to it if they've never had anything else? Genuine question!

Well we went 18 months with just breast milk because he wouldn't drink water

How long would you be prepared to wait without trying an alternative, especially if the hcps were saying try squash?

Silverswirl · 11/07/2022 12:21

SexyLittleNosferatu · 11/07/2022 12:20

There's nothing wrong with squash. It's just the usual mumsnet ridiculousness. Chucking around terms like chemicals and sugary in a bid to prove they're the world's best mummy. Pathetic really.

It’s fine as an occasional drink but not as a main drink to replace plain water.

SexyLittleNosferatu · 11/07/2022 12:27

It’s fine as an occasional drink but not as a main drink to replace plain water

I didn't ask for your opinion.

You're one of the clowns who thinks saying "chemicals" makes something poison. Water is chemicals you know. Everything is chemicals.

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 11/07/2022 12:27

Well I've never heard of a child dieing or becoming seriously ill from having a bit of squash in their water instead of plain water (not counting allergies/other medical conditions obvs)

most of us who's children have asd or other disabilities that mean they refuse water have far worse things to worry about than water refusal

Fixyourself · 11/07/2022 12:28

Decay is the top reason for paediatric hospital admissions. Stop giving your kids squash ffs!

ElBandito · 11/07/2022 12:29

Nanananananana99 · 11/07/2022 11:24

@ElBandito is most squash sugar free or is it no added sugar?

Ours is Robinson Fruit Creations. It says 'no added sugar' and on the nutritional stuff on the side says Sugars 0g.

Someone pointed out that the ph also matters and I accept that.

As far as teeth are concerned I think half the problem is that everyone is sippity sipping on drinks all day. How can kids be concentrating if they're constantly fiddling with water bottles. There has to be some sort of happy medium. Whatever happened to just having your drink, finishing it and then going about your day.

I am aware I am now sounding like my mum, so I'll be off now

Silverswirl · 11/07/2022 12:31

Silverswirl · 11/07/2022 12:21

It’s fine as an occasional drink but not as a main drink to replace plain water.

Meant to say
It’s fine as an occasional drink but not as a main drink to replace plain water
Squash has juices with citric acid which decays teeth. Plus artificial sweeteners.
Speak to any dentist - it’s a bit no.
Yes sugary food is bad but because you would usually just eat, swollow and then saliva helps to keep harmful bacteria at bay but covering and coating your teeth, that gives some protection which is why sweets should always be given with meals and no just lots of snacks.
With fruit juice or squash as a main drink, teeth are being attacked over and over by the citric acid. Saliva has no chance to coat and protect. All day, every day.
Its a huge risk of forming dental decay.

Sirzy · 11/07/2022 12:31

Fixyourself · 11/07/2022 12:28

Decay is the top reason for paediatric hospital admissions. Stop giving your kids squash ffs!

Well Ds has got to nearly 13 and has perfect teeth even having drank only squash for life!

he also has a feeding tube because he has such a limited diet so even if his teeth weren’t perfect that would be rhe least of my worries!

Stroopwaffle5000 · 11/07/2022 12:32

Our school has always allowed squash

Cuck00soup · 11/07/2022 12:32

Assuming you want your children to have good oral health you would want to support this surely?

Ionacat · 11/07/2022 12:33

Water only in the classrooms here, but you can send in separate drinks for break and lunch regardless whether they have school lunches or not because they’re not drunk in the classrooms (just not fizzy drinks.) I suspect they’d make an allowance for those with special needs because the school comes across as very inclusive but I’ve never asked and no one has ever said anything in the playground.

Silverswirl · 11/07/2022 12:33

SexyLittleNosferatu · 11/07/2022 12:27

It’s fine as an occasional drink but not as a main drink to replace plain water

I didn't ask for your opinion.

You're one of the clowns who thinks saying "chemicals" makes something poison. Water is chemicals you know. Everything is chemicals.

Don’t be obtuse.
and yes. I am perfectly entitled to give my opinion. You really don’t need to ask me for it and I am sure as hell not waiting for your royal ‘permission’ 🤣

Thingymabobb · 11/07/2022 12:34

I just send my son in with diluted squash in an opaque bottle, not had any issues over the last 4 years. He absolutely refuses to drink water and even hates weak squash as its too much like water. As it happens he does have ADHD/sensory issues but I don't believe that's why he's been given the exception by various teachers. At the end of the day, it's one bottle over a 6hr period, hardly the end of the world.

toomuchlaundry · 11/07/2022 12:36

@ElBandito fruit juice has sugar in

hoohaaar · 11/07/2022 12:37

Not in a rude way but I never understand when people say that their children just never took to drinking water.

It never crossed my mind to give my kids squash from a young age so they wouldn't know any different.

If you bin all squash, kid will soon get thirsty enough to drink water.

Sirzy · 11/07/2022 12:40

hoohaaar · 11/07/2022 12:37

Not in a rude way but I never understand when people say that their children just never took to drinking water.

It never crossed my mind to give my kids squash from a young age so they wouldn't know any different.

If you bin all squash, kid will soon get thirsty enough to drink water.

Given the numerous posters who have explained throughout the thread yes it’s rude!