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Does your DC primary school allow squash through a hot day?

381 replies

Neowwwm · 11/07/2022 09:03

Sent my DC with a non- see through bottle with juice in today as since weaning and trying - DC has never drank plain water. Teacher removed the bottle stating water only in the day which will be provided with their own water bottles from school and juice only at lunch time.

AIBU or should this rule be relaxed during heatwaves?

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parenthood1989 · 11/07/2022 11:47

Someone has a different opinion to you. Swearing and name calling belongs in the playground and won’t alter my opinion I’m afraid. Thankfully I am free to have a discussion and yet make my voice heard. Your patronising put downs won’t change that.

With opinions like yours I would t be making myself heard. What an awful person.

Cotswoldmama · 11/07/2022 11:47

My son can have squash or watered down juice in his lunch box but only water during the day. They have named cups or water bottles they can fill up whilst in class

Silverswirl · 11/07/2022 11:48

MyneighbourisTotoro · 11/07/2022 11:42

@Silverswirl your ignorance is outstanding!

As a baby my son was only ever offered milk or water, same as his older sister who only drinks water! My son would always choke and gag on water and started to refuse it. I tried everything and eventually the HV suggested diluted fresh apple juice so not squash, it worked a
treat and that’s what he has continued to drink. His teeth are perfect and he is a happy healthy boy.
I can’t see how I’ve passed on my own issues with water on to him considering how hard I tried to avoid it for both my children!

My parents didn’t buy squash for me when I was a child and I‘ve never liked squash!
I was allowed to have fresh orange juice, tea or milk in the morning and was always given water for the day but I didn’t drink it! In the end I had to have mini cartons of fresh juice otherwise I was going to end up in hospital.

You think you can force children to drink water but taking away all the other options but that’s not how autism works, the child will literally end up in hospital, it is not a choice, it is not just putting up with drinking something we dislike.
I don’t think you will ever understand and it is so sad that an adult can’t find the open mindedness needed to learn about another persons struggles and difficult.

Firstly you don’t know my level of ignorance or how informed I am, what I’ve seen / or experienced so please don’t call me ignorant just because I have a different opinion to you.
I very strongly believe that the vast majority of the human population would drink water if all other option were never given. Yes there may well be exceptions to that and you may be one of them. But for the vast majority of children who want juice all day and hate water, they have been given a choice which they now prefer to water (and who wouldn’t prefer a sugary drink to plain water really esp children)

SamPoodle123 · 11/07/2022 11:48

Should always be water for young ones. We never give them juice unless its a special occasion and even then not always. If they are sick with fever and not eating, I will give them watered down juice. But I do see a lot of kids getting juice regularly....but never at school.

TheGreatBobinsky · 11/07/2022 11:48

@silverswirl I vomit up plain water, I gag and if I try to drink it too much it leads to vomiting. I have tried to drink plain water - or even other still drinks - throughout my life and it all ends in the same result. It's not that I don't try, it makes me physically sick. I don't enjoy kidney infections and hospital stays, I'd love to be able to drink enough plain water for those not to be an issue. It's embarrassing to be an adult who can't drink plain water. This is not a choice I am making, it's my life. I don't think anyone would choose to give themselves kidney damage if they could just make themselves drink plain water.

I have been like this since I was child, I do not a diagnosis of any ASD - I have my suspicions but I don't have a diagnosis. This is a more common issue than you would think.

Silverswirl · 11/07/2022 11:49

parenthood1989 · 11/07/2022 11:47

Someone has a different opinion to you. Swearing and name calling belongs in the playground and won’t alter my opinion I’m afraid. Thankfully I am free to have a discussion and yet make my voice heard. Your patronising put downs won’t change that.

With opinions like yours I would t be making myself heard. What an awful person.

No, I’m really not an awful person. Just someone with a different opinion to you.

parenthood1989 · 11/07/2022 11:50

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LunchPoems · 11/07/2022 11:50

I’m liking the idea of teachers sniffing out flavoured water. Like drug dogs.

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EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 11/07/2022 11:51

I don't think someone blaming parents of children with additional needs for them not drinking water is likely to be a very nice person .

Loics · 11/07/2022 11:53

I wouldn't pay mind to what @Silverswirl is saying. I've asked for actual constructive advice on what to do twice now, but all that comes forward is more vitriol to other posters, which is telling. There are people like myself with professional and personal experience of sensory issues in SEN, posters who have, or are parents with children who have, autism, who have acknowledged it's not as easy to "just give them water".
I don't think it's worth reading their unsubstantiated nonsense any more.

EssexSerpent · 11/07/2022 11:54

Assuming no additional needs documented and known about by the school - it should be water only.

Can you imagine how difficult it is being a teacher in this heat? Give them a break! If they relax the rule for one everyone might bring it in and who knows how other kids react to sugar/sweeteners etc. Some parents will want a policy writing on what constitutes a heatwave and ‘well on my thermometer it says X temperature’.

Sometimes parents would do well to remember that children can have personalised learning plans but school has to have policies that benefit the majority, the majority of the time.

I’m not a teacher but my sympathies to those who are.

parenthood1989 · 11/07/2022 11:56

Loics · 11/07/2022 11:53

I wouldn't pay mind to what @Silverswirl is saying. I've asked for actual constructive advice on what to do twice now, but all that comes forward is more vitriol to other posters, which is telling. There are people like myself with professional and personal experience of sensory issues in SEN, posters who have, or are parents with children who have, autism, who have acknowledged it's not as easy to "just give them water".
I don't think it's worth reading their unsubstantiated nonsense any more.

I think you are right. It's obviously goady fuckery.

StClare101 · 11/07/2022 11:56

Only water at our school.

What about soda stream (unflavoured). The bubbles might help?

MyneighbourisTotoro · 11/07/2022 11:58

@Silverswirl You can’t tell me not to make assumptions about your ignorance when you’ve made assumptions about my childhood and how I’ve raised my own child.
You are throwing around your own assumptions at anyone who states a different opinion to you so I’m entitled to make assumptions based on the opinions you are also sharing.

Ivalueloyaltyaboveallelse · 11/07/2022 11:58

My DC with ASD loves water (won’t drink anything else) not an issue for us however DC also has ARFID so I strongly believe that excepts should only be made for children with SEN.

Silverswirl · 11/07/2022 11:58

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It really isn’t. I have said there are exceptions for SEN in every post I’ve written.
Every child deserves fresh water with no chemicals and it’s very important that it’s their main drink. If that’s a disgrace and embarrassment then so be it.

LunchPoems · 11/07/2022 11:59

I am clearly an awful person as I let both my DC drink juice, even Fruit Shoots 😱 And squash!

They are in their teens and don’t appear to be scarred. Both drink water and juice.

Id much rather my DCs were hydrated and well tbh.

It’s nuts on here sometimes

Ivalueloyaltyaboveallelse · 11/07/2022 11:59

Exceptions*

Johnnysgirl · 11/07/2022 12:00

Neowwwm · 11/07/2022 09:03

Sent my DC with a non- see through bottle with juice in today as since weaning and trying - DC has never drank plain water. Teacher removed the bottle stating water only in the day which will be provided with their own water bottles from school and juice only at lunch time.

AIBU or should this rule be relaxed during heatwaves?

No. Water is quite sufficient during a heatwave.

Silverswirl · 11/07/2022 12:02

MyneighbourisTotoro · 11/07/2022 11:58

@Silverswirl You can’t tell me not to make assumptions about your ignorance when you’ve made assumptions about my childhood and how I’ve raised my own child.
You are throwing around your own assumptions at anyone who states a different opinion to you so I’m entitled to make assumptions based on the opinions you are also sharing.

No. You asked me the question about why you and your child don’t like water.
i gave my OPINION on why that could be. If you don’t agree with that then that’s absolutely fair enough.
Never have I called you names.
I could very well have done, but I haven’t.

Pixies74 · 11/07/2022 12:03

Clymene · 11/07/2022 09:32

If your children had never drunk anything other than water (and milk obviously), they'd drink water.

This.

If you introduce a sugary drink from yound childhood, then of course they're going to prefer that and go off water.

If water's the only thing they've known, there's no reason for them to go off it...

And I can see how those with certain sen can have more extreme reactions to having it if they prefer eg squash, but do their additional needs mean they have a genetic aversion to it if they've never had anything else? Genuine question!

Johnnysgirl · 11/07/2022 12:05

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MyneighbourisTotoro · 11/07/2022 12:07

@Silverswirl I also haven’t called you names, I stated you were being ignorant. That’s very different to name calling.
I also didn’t ask for your opinion, I asked a rhetorical question, I explained in my first post that myself and my child have autism which is the cause of our issues surrounding water but you made an assumption about my life.

rainbowmilk · 11/07/2022 12:09

I have sympathy with both the kids and the teachers. One of my teacher friends has a class of 32 and 2/3 of the kids have parents who insist they have additional needs. The school has a water only rule but in that class those 2/3 bring in whatever they want (including on one occasion red bull) and the parents kick off if anything is said,. This isn’t uncommon for the school.

I’m sure there must be genuine cases in there but unfortunately it makes it harder for them to be heard when the majority is claiming that they’re also in that category.