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MIL says she doesn’t want baby at funeral but DH does

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KristinaYang · 09/07/2022 14:33

FIL recently peacefully died, after short illness. MIL was very reluctant to have baby (11 months) round to visit during this time but encouraged older child age 11 to visit lots. We went with the flow and visited with one child, no children, both children etc so a real mix and we thought that was ok-no negative comments.

DH and I had previously noticed that in laws were/are not as interested in baby as they were/are with older child but had put it down to their older age this time round, plus then FIL becoming unwell. MIL has also made some negative comments about baby eg comparing them to sibling and saying they are given too much attention etc. I’m making this point as I wonder if that is clouding our thoughts a bit here?

Funeral is tomorrow. MIL has today said baby is not welcome as she doesn’t want them to steal the show. She is shocked we even considered it.
We don’t have any childcare for baby (though I could stay at home) but then older child would be alone at funeral as DH is reading a lot of the service. Older child was close to FIL and will be upset understandably.

DH says to all go as originally planned but I am on the fence, MIL expressly says no. I feel stuck in the middle, and I really don’t want to make MIL’s day worse, but my loyalty is to my DH. WWYD?

YANBU- Stick with DH
YABU- Follow MIL’s wishes

OP posts:
beautyisthefaceisee · 10/07/2022 13:10

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2022 12:33

Another astounding post. WTF does it take for people to understand that this woman is under the most enormous pressure and is going through the worst time in her life ? I think it’s utterly disgraceful to suggest that she meant she wanted all the attention on her - that’s not what it’s about and it’s not what she said - for anyone thinking rationally and not determined to see the worst in people, it’s clear she meant that she didn’t want anything to detract the focus from her husband - remember him ? The bloke in the coffin ? And it’s actually not about ‘sharing’ it with anyone else either. Everyone at the funeral will experience the loss according to their relationship with the deceased. And for the widow it will be about doing her best to make sure her last act of love - planning the funeral service - goes as perfectly as possible. If you can’t see that, shame on you.

I can see why the expression "stealing the show" has caused the controversy it had. I'd be interested to know if she used that actual expression.

Johnnysgirl · 10/07/2022 13:16

beautyisthefaceisee · 10/07/2022 13:10

I can see why the expression "stealing the show" has caused the controversy it had. I'd be interested to know if she used that actual expression.

Indeed! Somehow I don't think so.

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/07/2022 13:42

@EmilyBolton

oh dear

it really is beyond you isn’t it ?

beautyisthefaceisee · 10/07/2022 13:44

Johnnysgirl · 10/07/2022 13:16

Indeed! Somehow I don't think so.

Would be good if OP could confirm! It's the crux of the entire debate.

feistyoneyouare · 10/07/2022 13:44

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 10/07/2022 12:55

It's a very Victorian attitude isn't it, all this children can't be at funerals? Harps back to 'children must be seen and not heard.' If a baby is crying then take them out immediately obviously but other than that I think it's odd and to be honest kids should get used to funerals young imo , they're like weddings, part of life.

It's not Victorian, or about the seen/heard thing, or at least in my view it isn't. It's about umpteen practicalities that have already been mentioned on this thread.

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/07/2022 13:47

If issues between mother and the law baby persist in time then address them.

but do not hold it against her right now. The woman is grieving, her whole life is turned upside down in a way no one else’s is including DH.

HAVE SOME COMPASSION!

NEWSFLASH - it’s not just just babies and kids that are worthy of compassion, it’s everyone. Yes even women who are past child bearing age!! Who’d have thought!!

SenecaFallsRedux · 10/07/2022 13:50

Would be good if OP could confirm! It's the crux of the entire debate.

The funeral is today. I imagine she has other things on her mind than re-entering this discussion, which has actually degenerated into some measure of unpleasantness toward her and her MIL.

KristinaYang · 10/07/2022 14:26

An update-
Funeral was pleasant enough, my 11 year old was an absolute star and held MIL’s hand. I’m so proud of the boy he is.
DH was also brilliant. I am so pleased I was there to support them both. (DH has a brother but he lives overseas and couldn’t get back in such short notice).

However, MIL has definitely showed her true colours today. Many of their friends commented why baby wasn’t there and MIL had actually invited the golf club receptionists baby who is 9 months old to the wake.

It appears it is quite well known that MIL is not a fan of DD because she is a girl! (And her friend told me she was shocked that I had a baby at my age-I’m 38!)

FIL was only ill for 3 weeks so MIL hasn’t spent her past few months caring for him at all. I quoted her exact words as previous posters have asked. She isn’t on medication (that I know) but perhaps she should be?

I’m torn between aghast and totally over it all to be honest. At least, we as a family of 4, can support one another. We will always support her should she need it but I shall remember this.

Thanks for all the comments, and for some great advice. Some posters sound like they’d get on well with MIL though!!

OP posts:
LuckySantangelo35 · 10/07/2022 14:28

@KristinaYang

“At least, we as a family of 4, can support one another.“

sounding a big smug there op

user143677433 · 10/07/2022 14:30

I’m glad the day wasn’t too awful OP.

Shocking that she invited the receptionist’s baby while categorically prohibiting her own granddaughter’s attendance though.

GrouchyKiwi · 10/07/2022 14:37

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/07/2022 14:28

@KristinaYang

“At least, we as a family of 4, can support one another.“

sounding a big smug there op

Oh do give over.

GrouchyKiwi · 10/07/2022 14:38

Glad the day went OK, OP. Flowers

janesmithsdog · 10/07/2022 14:39

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/07/2022 14:28

@KristinaYang

“At least, we as a family of 4, can support one another.“

sounding a big smug there op

No she isn’t, don’t be so ridiculous.

Well done for getting through it and finding a way to honour her wishes OP, but I would also find her behaviour hard to move past.

Hope your DH and DS are ok. 💐

feistyoneyouare · 10/07/2022 14:39

OP, reading your update I have a lot less sympathy for your MIL than I did earlier! It sounds as though there's more than grief driving this, and that's not OK. Glad you were able to find a work-around and support your DH though.

FogoInn · 10/07/2022 14:40

. (DH has a brother but he lives overseas and couldn’t get back in such short notice).

I'm glad it went well OP.
But why did they have the funeral at such short notice that a son couldn't be there?
Is there a particular religious or cultural reason it had to be held before family could get there?

SenecaFallsRedux · 10/07/2022 14:43

sounding a big smug there op

Not smug at all. Very understandable under the circumstances to close ranks to a certain extent when one's child has obviously been marginalized, and possibly because she is female.

Johnnysgirl · 10/07/2022 14:48

(DH has a brother but he lives overseas and couldn’t get back in such short notice)
Seriously??

Cameronnorrieisabitofalright · 10/07/2022 14:51

Mil may possibly remarry. Her dh won't get another df...

2bazookas · 10/07/2022 14:53

Why don't you all go, but invite a friend of yours to come to the funeral with you (no family connection to FIL and MIL) who can take the baby out of the funeral if he becomes too noisy distracting. Then if there's any post=funeral meal/wake/tea and biscuits, DH stays to support his Mum but you and your friend take both children home/away.

Johnnysgirl · 10/07/2022 14:56

Cameronnorrieisabitofalright · 10/07/2022 14:51

Mil may possibly remarry. Her dh won't get another df...

What a downright weird thought process.

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FogoInn · 10/07/2022 15:11

Funerals are usually held within one to two weeks of the death and that can be short notice if you live overseas.

Really? For a parent who was ill?
I'm in Scotland where funerals are usually within 1 week and the children of the deceased can manage to get home. A friend even got home from Australia for his mother's funeral.

I wonder if there's a history here of MIL having a favourite?

MichelleScarn · 10/07/2022 15:17

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/07/2022 14:28

@KristinaYang

“At least, we as a family of 4, can support one another.“

sounding a big smug there op

Why on earth is this smug?!

MichelleScarn · 10/07/2022 15:20

*However, MIL has definitely showed her true colours today. Many of their friends commented why baby wasn’t there and MIL had actually invited the golf club receptionists baby who is 9 months old to the wake.

It appears it is quite well known that MIL is not a fan of DD because she is a girl! (And her friend told me she was shocked that I had a baby at my age-I’m 38!)*

Due to this I would absolutely have no contact with her or facilitate contact with DS. It would be down to Dh should he choose to do.
I would also be wary of her contact with DS and what misogynistic shite she would fill him with given her dislike of DD.

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