What’s the sad reality about life that you had to learn?

[YouAreNotBatman]

To me it was how little people actually care about other’s.

And how lonely and isolating life can be, even as an adult, if you just don’t ”fit in” with the norm.

I’m hoping you dont let on to your children these very dark and bleak outlooks?

Nothing makes you as happy or unhappy as you think it will

You can't trust anyone.

If you are a woman your face doesn't fit you get treated very differently by other women. They see you as 'less' than them. If you are an unattractive woman, men don't ignore you, they laugh at you and belittle you and make jokes about going out with you. They dont care that it's not your fault how you look, and they don't care how much they hurt you, as long as they make their mates laugh. Life is shit if you are female and born ugly.

You can't judge people based on your own standards.

But why frame it so negatively?

Encouraging independence is so positive and reaps the possibility of so much adventure and excitement

you should be careful not to pass on a bleak outlook that is based on your experience and frame it as “fact” and “inevitable”

You are missing the point of the thread respectfully Bertie

Totally agree with this, as I've found out recently.

You don’t have a robo vac, do you?

That everything that tastes really, really nice has loads and loads of calories!

Strawberries?!

Also, no matter how cool they may look on some people not everyone suits those big doc Martin sandals and they make some people look like Herman Munster on holiday.

For me its the death, loss and suffering of the people I love. I feel like I can live with everything else but its so painful to see someone you love sufferand unbearable to lose them.

BertieBoo

Strawberries are alright and everything but I'd rather have a family sized bar of dairy milk 😋

Doing boring things like paying off the mortgage and paying into pension are super important.

Men aren't that great - they are almost all incredibly selfish. Those reported not to be are measured against lower standards to women. I think a lot of women would have happier and more fulfilling lives, if they stayed single.

@FictionalCharacter On the whole, men despise women. Many of them didn’t want us to have the rights that we won.
The second sentence is true, but I don't personally know any men now who would want to take those rights away, and I know quite a few men (am one). Or any who despise women for that matter, although they're just as capable of complaining bitterly about women as many here are of complaining about men.

@PupInAPram see Johnson for details-

With respect, I think you have to be a women to realise the privilege we don’t have. It’s deeply ingrained, insidious, automatic and ubiquitous.

I would also say that when you get to your 60s your head still thinks and talks to yourself like you are29 - just stuck in a body that is rarely the same.

However hard you try to be a good person, a good wife, a good employee, a good parent and kind and caring to others, life shits on you.

Once you realise this, you just learn to make the best of it.

Think it's just a mumsnet thing where all husbands cheat and most marriages break down or are secretly awful. As I said, most of my friends, including myself are all happily married and have good relationships. Not perfect, nothing is, but definitely happy with a strong family unit.

Don’t waste your time trying to forgive or understand horrible people because they don’t necessarily have something that has made them horrible in the first place, they just are.

How much people reject the truth.

I’m 57, you are 100% correct.