to think that the reporting of the deaths of people in the public eye is disgusting

[beautyisthefaceisee]

MN HQ, feel free to move this elsewhere if you think more appropriate.

Not long off the back of the Caroline Flack circus (And let's not get into that again, I am referring directly to their reporting in regards to a dead woman) we have this morning the news that sadly Jake McLean, who isn't actually a celebrity in himself, but the ex boyfriend of two, has died following a car crash. HIs girlfriend, Yasmin Oukhello who appears in TOWIE, is in intensive care.

The articles this morning talk at great length about Jake's 3 years in prison 10 years ago, his ex girlfriend Lauren Goodger using her interviews from 2013, Yasmin's ex boyfriend and his love life.

Why? Just why? Jake has a family. He presumably has parents, or siblings, friends, people who love him. It is unlikely that Yasmin even knows he is dead yet.

Why does it become acceptable to report in this manner when it's someone (barely) in the public eye? Do we stand up at funerals and say "He was in prison and he went out with Sarah in 2012". No, of course we don't.

All the papers are doing are opening the floodgates for the standard comments of "who", "he's not a celebrity", "he's a criminal so good", "talentless Z lister", etc etc etc.

But he is ultimately a man who has died and his family and friends have to read this shit. I honestly think it's disgusting. Its all over the internet and in every shop I've been in this morning, so god knows how his poor mother feels.

OP don’t waste your time. You shared your opinion, others are allowed to share theirs. The end. Look at the actual result of the vote to see if the sentiment is that the majority agree with you or not. A few people have riled you, but the majority haven’t been rude - they’ve just disagreed with you posting about it in such detail. The journalist who replied explained how the newspapers work, and yet when people point out they hadn’t seen it (which is what you’d want, surely, for people not to even see this crap you oppose to) they’re ganging up on you.
If I were you I’d stop replying, get on with my day and be happy that less people than you originally thought had read the news. 👍

To some degree, this is nothing new, it's been amplified by the internet. The Profumo scandal broke 1963. John Profumo then spent decades in private life, doing a great deal of valuable charity work. When he died, how many media reports mentioned Christine Keeler? Every single one.

OP "Essex is a small place and they all date each other."

this made me lol so hard. It's HUGE, I grew up there and to say we all dated each other is just hilarious. 😂😂😂 We are allowed to date outside the county!

I do think the papers are revolting but I don't read them anymore because of it.

They put all this in, rightly or wrongly, because of SEO. People search for the details and it feeds the beast.

Like I said, if you really feel uncomfortable about how this is reported, speak to IPSO about it - complaining on MN will not change things. To be clear, I'm not saying this to have a go at you in some way, this is obviously something you feel strongly about it and maybe this thread is just you talking out your feelings, but ultimately you need to make your opinion heard by someone with the power to change things.

Yes quite, what do you expect to be reported OP,that he did charitable work for the community and was a great bloke?

I have explained quite clearly several times what I think I'd acceptable and unacceptable

Is this really news? (In no way am I minimising the death of the young man - I just find it gross and pathetic the way it's used on the front page like a big story).

It isn't news it's a scumbag who has died and he Has got a lot of form for it.

I'm not sure why the OP is obsessed with this man.

Brilliant. The fact his car crushed him to death will be pleasing news to you then. I'm sure the woman is THRILLED to see his face and all of the details all over the papers for everyone to read. I'm sure she will feelcmich better. When my ex was done for abuse, it was in the local paper. I couldn't bear to even look at his name

Don't know about thrilled, but she might be very relieved today. At least she now knows the person who terrorised her in her own home won't be doing to her or anyone else in the future.

I do feel strongly about it.

I admitted earlier it's due to tragic deaths of my own friends and watching that bloodu documentary last night but I've taken such a pounding here that it hasnt allowsd me to actually think about why It bothers me.

Clue - ita not because I love criminals or love the gossip and drama.

I am interested in this, actually. The general topic hits home because the reporting on something close to me a few years ago felt really uncomfortable and distasteful. What I did take issue with is the way you're writing about this as though it's getting coverage akin to the death of Diana (RIP Princess of Hearts) rather than something that has turned up in the places where salacious stories about public figures turn up. It's not.

For fucks sake. My post mentions several people. It's not about him. Are upi really that dense?

This thread isn't really about a TOWIE wag, is it? I think, kindly, it might be worth looking into dealing with the personal element of it, and removing this sort of story from your life as much as possible as it's clearly quite triggering for you.

Very feminist of you to use a victim woman to further your own agenda.

No.
Yes, I certainly will learn in future. I've been here years , on threads about minor and major things and even tbe strong controversial topics havenr given me the pounding I've had here.

Lesson learned.

For fucks sake. My post mentions several people. It's not about him. Are upi really that dense?

Eh? 95% of your opening post is about him.

What agenda do you think BRF has?

OP @beautyisthefaceisee I am sorry you feel this discussion hasn’t been respectful.

You are however moving this at times from a discussion about how a tragically deceased individual was reported based on his past crimes (something that may not happen to other normal folk) , to a discussion about the wrongs of the media in general.

in particular I quote:

“They [impressionable youth] are seeing people like Jesy Nelson and Jacqueline Jossa being pounded by the press over their weight.”

But that’s totally different.

That’s some folk in the media making mischief and cruelty - based on a characteristic or appearance that the person did not invite comment on. Their weight is not a matter of public record which is reported on for public interest from a public event. It is something newspapers choose to comment on due to popularity of discussion.

In the case of the recently deceased, his actions and imprisonment are a matter of public record. Court reporting is established in the UK and is conducted for the public interest. Do you think “the media” should therefore somehow limit the actual facts (moments in time, things someone did) that they report on someone in case it might make some kids glum?

Yet my title isn't and my subsequent posts mention many other people.

OP, If you don’t want to read trashy intrusive reporting about random Z list nobodies who most people with half a brain have never heard of, might I suggest you stop reading the tabloids? Are you aware that when you click on such ‘stories’ your clicks are recorded, analysed and used to drive demand for more of the same?

If you are accusing many people of being dense you may be the problem.

Your post is about someone who courted fame don't make him out to a innocent.

Same here.

I can help.

I'm a journo
I love salacious gossip and get off on it
I'm related to him
I'm obsessed with him
I'm a "year 9 skipping around"

Have I missed any?

Despite the fact I've actually been pretty honest about my own sensitivities and the fact it's more about the people reading it, that got diluted in the bile and the chumming with each other and congratulating each other on their responses.

One

Well you do seem like you have just left school being so proud you studied sociology

It's all connected though. The fact that PPs have chosen to focus on this one story in general because I led with it and completely ignored by mention of people like Gareth, well, that shows their spiteful nature.

No, I think that they should have some respect and decorum and not post photos of the crashed car or the ex girlfriends ex boyfriend (Lockie is on the front of some of these articles. Why?)

It's interesting thart PP think I'm obsessed wiht this man when what I'm actually saying is that the article shouldn't be about his love life. It should be to the point about his death, and yes the fact he's a criminal if they insist. My point is that he SHOULDN'Tbe on the front page.