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Colleague offered help to a man friend and told inappropriate

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lunavista · 03/07/2022 11:42

Ok so my colleague (work friend) told me this story in total mortification and I am trying to help.

She has a male family friend she has known for ages. He's married with a child. His wife is travelling to see her dying mother and he's staying back with their child. They often text to say hello etc and when she heard about his wife, she offered to come over for the weekend and help with the child. He then told her that it would be inappropriate for him to have a woman that's not related to him stay at his home in his wife's absence. She is absolutely mortified and doesn't know how to respond. I a personally think he's been a muppet. I asked if she has a good relationship with the wife and she said she doesn't think she approves of their friendship. My colleague is single if that's relevant .

I honestly can't see a problem with her offer. AIBU?

OP posts:
Gwenhwyfar · 03/07/2022 13:41

"Even my best friend of 40+ years doesn’t offer to move herself in when DH is away with work."

But if she did, would you find it weird? I just gave the example of my colleague's mum.

AnyFucker · 03/07/2022 13:41

Yeah, you're the woman, aren't you OP?

I don’t think there is any doubt about that

mintybobs · 03/07/2022 13:41

Gwenhwyfar · 03/07/2022 13:38

"My guess is it comes down to that stupid misogynistic idea that the poor helpless men need help "babysitting" their own kids and yet mothers are just supposed to get on with it with no help because well, theyre female."

My colleague's husband was abroad a couple of weeks ago and her mum came over to help with the children. Was that wrong then?

If you think someone's mum moving in is the same thing as a random opposite sex colleague moving in for the weekend then I cant help you because this is just laughably ridiculous. I would be FURIOUS if I was away with my dying mother and a female work colleague tried to move in with my husband during that time under the guise of trying to "help".

CustardySergeant · 03/07/2022 13:42

Hucklead · 03/07/2022 11:49

I think he thinks she is coming on to him, and he has expressed a firm boundary.
Why on earth would he need help to look after his own child?!
I think she WAS coming on to him, actually!

Exactly! It was a bizarre "offer" and I'm not surprised he firmly turned it down. Of course it was inappropriate! How can your colleague think otherwise?

Phobiaphobic · 03/07/2022 13:43

CaptainBeakyandhisband · 03/07/2022 11:49

If you flip this on it’s head and it’s the mother staying with the child and a male work colleague offering to come to stay over and help it’s a fairly bizarre circumstance. I have the kids on my own often, I’m unlikely to accept offers of help from single childless men unless my husband knows them very well. But nobody ever even offers - it’s a perfectly normal thing for men to travel on business and women to hold the fort, until we stop babying these fathers who are just parenting we will never get close to equality. It shouldn’t be a big deal for a woman to go away for a few days and the father to do the heavy lifting at home.

This.

Chikapu · 03/07/2022 13:43

Gwenhwyfar · 03/07/2022 13:38

"My guess is it comes down to that stupid misogynistic idea that the poor helpless men need help "babysitting" their own kids and yet mothers are just supposed to get on with it with no help because well, theyre female."

My colleague's husband was abroad a couple of weeks ago and her mum came over to help with the children. Was that wrong then?

One of these things is in no way like the other.

Testina · 03/07/2022 13:45

She was hysterical at his telling her it wasn’t appropriate? Seriously? Who needs that level of drama?

Why would he even need help?

I bet she sure as hell wouldn’t offer to help mum if dad was away 🙄

But of course, we must rush to help the menz. Inappropriate? Why wasn’t his response, “I can look after my own child 🤣”?

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 03/07/2022 13:45

Or the second, I suspect far more likely, your friend is a massive rescuer / saver who is ore about the ego boost fro being seen to be overly helpful (missing that it's almost always intrusive, stressful and about as much use as a chocolate teapot)

Yep, this sounds about right. She’s probably the type who loves being the one to roll up, take over and sort out everyone’s (non-existent) problems, patting herself on the back for being so kind and caring.

Ohthatsexciting · 03/07/2022 13:45

I really like this guy.

He was straight with you, firm and clear from the outset.

Your was very “off” and quite frankly bizarre to make the offer but at least she “got it” in the end

whereas the OP needed the assistance of hundreds of anonymous mumsnetters.

i honestly wonder how these people get on in life and work and raise children

CustardySergeant · 03/07/2022 13:46

eldora · 03/07/2022 11:55

Is your friend single?

It honestly sounds like she thought this was her chance to nab him.

Extremely ill judged from her.

It says in the OP that she's single!

WafflyVersatileOohOoh · 03/07/2022 13:48

I have a really close male colleague. We’re really great friends, call each other outside of work, check in when the other is ill kind of a thing.

We’ve been to each other’s homes, our spouses have met on these visits etc.

I would never ever offer to go to his house specifically because his wife isn’t there. It’s odd.

Equally, my husband would raise an eyebrow if he was away for a weekend and I had my colleague staying.

I also find it insane that she would rush to help him parent his own child.

Icecreamsodaloda · 03/07/2022 13:48

Gwenhwyfar · 03/07/2022 13:38

"My guess is it comes down to that stupid misogynistic idea that the poor helpless men need help "babysitting" their own kids and yet mothers are just supposed to get on with it with no help because well, theyre female."

My colleague's husband was abroad a couple of weeks ago and her mum came over to help with the children. Was that wrong then?

Surely you can see the difference between a grandma offering to help out her daughter (or son-in-law) to some random woman wanting to play "auntie" to a child while her mum (who doesn't appear to like the woman much) is away!

CambsAlways · 03/07/2022 13:49

Weird thing to want to do , Nah he’s done the right thing, his wife’s travelling to visit her dying mother and your friend is expecting to stay over in her male friends home for weekend to help look after the man’s child, yeh right! I bet she is

MiniPiccolo · 03/07/2022 13:50

Very inappropriate.
Why do they text to 'say hello'?
She needs to work on learning socially acceptable boundaries. Especially where another woman's child is involved.
Why would he have needed "help"?
Not so sure his wife would've been all that impressed a stranger 'helping' with her child.

NoNoNoooo · 03/07/2022 13:52

Your “friend” is overstepping the mark. Of course it’s inappropriate for him to have a single, female work colleague stay at his house while his wife is away and actually quite predatory of your “friend”. What makes her think he can’t look after his kids on his own?!? Well done to him for not allowing this to happen. Please tell your “friend” to stop hanging around married men.

KettrickenSmiled · 03/07/2022 13:52

Gwenhwyfar · 03/07/2022 13:38

"My guess is it comes down to that stupid misogynistic idea that the poor helpless men need help "babysitting" their own kids and yet mothers are just supposed to get on with it with no help because well, theyre female."

My colleague's husband was abroad a couple of weeks ago and her mum came over to help with the children. Was that wrong then?

This doesn't make any sense, as it has no relevance to OP's "friend".

Who isn't the mother of the man in OP's story.

mycatisannoying · 03/07/2022 13:52

Your friend is definitely overstepping, and he was right to say no.

Sswhinesthebest · 03/07/2022 13:52

AtrociousCircumstance · 03/07/2022 11:48

It was an inappropriate offer.

Why would he need help parenting his child? Confused

It smacks of your colleague jumping at the chance to spend time with him in his personal space when his wife is away. I’m not surprised he was uncomfortable. His response was pretty clear and sensible.

This

Ohthatsexciting · 03/07/2022 13:54

Anyone else think it was the OP that made the offer

And when she told her friends they said she should be mortified

but she disagreed so came to get support from mumsnet, but it rather backfired

RedRec · 03/07/2022 13:57

beautyisthefaceisee · 03/07/2022 13:36

I'd love to see the text.

"Hey Dave, sorry to hear that your wife's parent is dying and she'll be away, you know how she doesn't like me, how about i just move in while she's away?"

Grin
beautyisthefaceisee · 03/07/2022 13:57

Does anyone remember that storyling in Emmerdale where the mad woman wanted Ashley the vicar?

mintybobs · 03/07/2022 13:59

Ohthatsexciting · 03/07/2022 13:54

Anyone else think it was the OP that made the offer

And when she told her friends they said she should be mortified

but she disagreed so came to get support from mumsnet, but it rather backfired

Yep!

It makes no sense that this "colleague" would be hysterical about it now either- and why is the dad a "muppet" according to the OP for respecting his wife's boundaries and wishes?

Just madness.

KettrickenSmiled · 03/07/2022 13:59

Yeah I think that too @Ohthatsexciting

Also this -
Of course it’s inappropriate for him to have a single, female work colleague stay at his house while his wife is away and actually quite predatory of your “friend”.

It's all a bit Single White Female.

Oceanus · 03/07/2022 13:59

I'm glad your colleague is mortified, as she should be. She should never have offered! What's next? Offer to keep the bed warm while the wife's away?!

beautyisthefaceisee · 03/07/2022 13:59

Oceanus · 03/07/2022 13:59

I'm glad your colleague is mortified, as she should be. She should never have offered! What's next? Offer to keep the bed warm while the wife's away?!

wear her clothes to keep them fresh