Should a male teacher have done this?

[mycatisannoying]

During a residential school trip, enter a girls' shared dorm to wake them up?
To my mind it's a safeguarding issue, and there was also a female teacher on the trip who could have done it.
I wanted to seek others' opinions before raising it.
Thanks.

I remember our housemaster walked into our dorm to get us up one morning at school. In summer, some girls sleep with very little on. Some sleep naked....yep. Poor man was mortified and fled. We always had his wife or a female tutor do morning duty from then on. Best that male staff stay out of girls dorms to protect both sides.

Did he do anything inappropriate with any of the girls?
if the answer is no then leave it.
not all men are sexual deviants and pedophiles.
of you raise an issue when nothing happened apart from waking them up then you could damage his whole life when he’s done nothing wrong.

I wouldn't have an issue knocking on the door of a boys' room and shouting that it was time to wake up. I wouldn't look or go in. We don't know that was not what happened here . Fortunately for all, there were 13 girls. So the school can just ask them individually and find out the truth.

Hi OP, what actually happened? Not clear how the waking up was done. I would ask my daughter for a breakdown of the situation (you may have and not shared it here) if he went into the room and she was uncomfortable with his behaviour for whatever reason I would discuss with head of year or the safeguarding lead. So you may or may not be being unreasonable but I would look into it further with your DD.

I don’t see a problem with him waking up the children. How could I ? I don’t have a daughter but have I have a son and wouldn’t think it’s inappropriate if a female teacher woke him up on a school trip.

How? The OP contacts the school and says she's concerned that the male teacher went into the girls dorm to wake them.
Either this is perfectly acceptable to the school and he did nothing wrong, in which case the school responds to tell OP that.
Or, its not acceptable to the school and he acted inappropriately, in which case it needs to be dealt with.
There will be enough witnesses for the school to establish what happened so there's no danger of an innocent man's life being ruined here.

Maybe it's best that teachers don't take pupils on trips and subject themselves to the parents who accuse them of God knows what. Then parents would complain about teachers being too lazy to take their perfect offspring on trips. No win situation😂

I really would not be bothered about this in the slightest with my daughters. What about it upset her? You seem to be looking for things to be able to report him for due to the phone incident. You really only have her side so I would be careful to get the full story from both sides if it's playing on your mind

When I was a leader in the Brownies and we took the girls away overnight we had to go in pairs into the dorm if for example a child woke or was upset. We couldn’t go alone under any circumstances

There is no comparison between the actions of a 13 year old child towards a 'fit' adult male and the actions of an adult towards a child. Only a subsection of people on the fringes of society think otherwise.

That is certainly very inappropriate for a teacher to be asking others to report with a code word! That should be reported and him spoken to!

Any chance your dd was misbehaving in some way,teacher pulls her up and she now wants mummy on side so exaggerates all events concerning this teacher to get the reaction (she has got) from you. Iv a feeling you are being played here op.

I reported that post, @5128gap

Describing thirteen year olds as ‘not innocent’ is so wrong.

You think his behaviour has been entirely appropriate. I don't. It's simply not normal for a teacher to encourage others to snitch on a classmate who has done nothing wrong. And the code word, WTF?

I agree with you. Totally inappropriate.

As your daughter felt uncomfortable with him entering the room, do you know if others did too? Women should always follow instincts and if uncomfortable they should go with that and remove themselves. Your 13 year old daughter must not think that her instincts are to be ignored! A tricky one for you but I would have a word. Frame the uncomfortable bit as a general sense of pubescent girls in pyjamas and any man ....rather than this specific teacher. My sympathies with you for some of the daft comments on here!

Wow that's unnecessary

If you don't see the difference between a man in a room full of sleeping teen girls and a woman in a room of sleeping teen boys, you're an idiot.

Well it's true though! there is a serious lack of male teachers these days because of people like you

A serious lack of male teachers? Or a serious lack of men who wouldn't want or be able to trust themselves to comply with (blatantly obvious) good practise guidance and treat girl students appropriately?

Eh? She literally said he entered the room in the first line...

During a residential school trip, enter a girls' shared dorm to wake them up?

I think it sounds like you are seeking an excuse to start something that does not need to be started. He hasn't done anything wrong, so I disagree that any action should be taken.

Male teachers aren't always innocent and neither are 13yo girls.

Jesus fucking Christ.

Have a word with yourself.

Bloody hell.
Did someone put out on alert calling all the dickpander to this thread, suddenly.

numerous teachers and other people who deal with safeguarding have said that a male should not have entered a room full of sleeping girls at all.

why are some of you so utterly desperate to justify this behaviour.

some of you are saying that this may deter men from the profession. Well I would hope that men who find this acceptable would be deterred as they are either perverts (or more likely) incredibly stupid and naive.