Should a male teacher have done this?

[mycatisannoying]

During a residential school trip, enter a girls' shared dorm to wake them up?
To my mind it's a safeguarding issue, and there was also a female teacher on the trip who could have done it.
I wanted to seek others' opinions before raising it.
Thanks.

@SirChenjins - I like the way Male and Men are capitalised, though 😂

A male teacher should not be going into girls sleeping area unless a life and death emergency. Can't believe so many think this is ok. I would report him if this really happened.

Sometimes, women are their own enemy when it comes to equality

Well, that sounds agenda-free.

Yes, I did enjoy That 😂

It's just a word, to be used however words are used.

I've seen it used on here and I've challenged it in the wrong context.

but I do think some of the PPs are hysterical.

but I do think some of the PPs are hysterical

Why is this the right context for that particularly misogynistic word?

No, it’s not just a word - it’s a word reserved specifically for women and used in an attempt to dismiss and demean them. Hysterical - hysteria - hystera - uterus.

Meandering between my use of capital letters as "odd" - my explanation for that is So What? Next... and women being their own equality enemy, my answers for that are a bit more 'layered'. I've used Teaching as this is the focus of the thread.

It's true my overall view is that women have been set back since the Spice Girls came to represent female empowerment in the mid-1990s, although I do quite like them for entertainment. Not just the Spice Girls but the rise of Consumerism, Social Media and Fame as the precursors of success.

Parallel to this is the increase in maternal rights, gender equality, etc. which is good. However, in the face of many 'real life' situations many women turn to their legal working entitlements, which again is good but these only act as a smokescreen to cover the entrenched inequalities caused by women being the ones that give birth and who are mostly responsible for having dc.

So, is it not better that more men are culturally and professionally involved in caring and working with dc? Just as more women should be working on our Highways and collecting our bins?

A stream of thought.

@beautyisthefaceisee

You're using it incorrectly unless you actually think the description below applies to posters / their reactions on this thread... which it doesn't.

hysterical
/hɪˈstɛrɪk(ə)l/
adjective
affected by or deriving from wildly uncontrolled emotion.

some of the PPs are hysterical
Can you identify some of these "hysterical" posts, @beautyisthefaceisee?

Yes, a stream of thought which doesn’t carry much weight or meaning. Word salad really.

i would feel uncomfortable if my teenager daugher was woken in her pjs by any older man that wasnt her dad or close family member. I think most young girls wouldnt want any older man waking them its deffo inappropriate..

Well. That certainly was A Stream of Thought.

It's not misogynystic. Just because it can be used in that sense doesn't mean it is.

No, I'm not doing this. A pile on of 5 posters over a word I used despite the fact the previous 19 pages have had numerous similar opinions. Not a chance.

No.

If that is your opinion SChen then you are competely entitled to have it. I have my opinions and the rights to express them however I wish to. Even Though, i'd probably Express them even if I didn't have any right too.

See what I did with the Capitals there? HTH Hun.

It is misogynistic - and the reasons why have been explained to you. Leaving that aside though, which posts are affected by or deriving from wildly uncontrolled emotion? If you’re going to throw about misogynistic terms for women then you need to back up your claims with evidence.

Absolutely - you have the right to express your lack of insight and coherence in whatever ways you like. Hun.

I need to do absolutely nothing, I won't be intimidated by the pile on of MN. Unwatching now.

You won’t because you can’t because there is no hysteria.

If the OP is going to complain about this she will need to follow the school policy and not go straight to the governors.
She will also need to give a much more detailed account of what happened.

and yes I would much prefer female staff to wake up the girls and the male staff to wake up the boys

The OP seems to think the same and could suggest this to be made part of residential trip policy.

male staff shouldnt wake up female students to avoid this exact situation.. we as parents dont know anyone elses taughs so cant have blind faith in a teachers intentions.. this man should never have woke up the girls for their sake and equally for his own sake. it most likely was completely innocent BUT you just never know..

@LAtalante - I have said it would be right for the OP to report her concerns to the school and to ask for clarification, but I’ve seen enough internet posts from parents who make incidents sound very simplistic and black and white, but for it to turn out that the reality was nothing like it (or even exactly what their child told them - parents often fill in the blanks with their own assumptions). I no longer therefore “believe” anything until I have heard both sides. It’s not as if it would be remotely difficult to verify if the teacher really had strolled into a room of sleeping girls to wake them up, as there are multiple witnesses to check with. Until fair checks have been made, I don’t believe anything other than that this accusation is worth investigating, for everyone’s sake. Why do you find that so difficult to accept? As for the phone incident, that sounds bizarre and genuinely hard to believe it was exactly as described and stripped away has sweet fa to do with the bedroom incident, but it was the OP who connected the two, not me.

It was aimed at the OP and PPs who are hysterical at a man setting foot into a room with teenage girls

no one is hysterical

people are talking about basic safeguarding, if what the teacher has done hasnt breached the school’s safeguarding policy then thats that

the OP is perfectly entitled to ask if it has breached that policy

the school usually has rules in place, if that teacher has broken those rules then he needs to be told…if only for his own protection